Do priests screen for consanguinity level 4?

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It is easy to check that. They should check. Birth Certificates of grandparents please. Done. They can also build a database over time.
 
Right, but he doesn’t sign twice … sacramental marriage TICK, civil marriage TICK. So that he can invalidate one and not the other.

The priest must have a license by the state/province to marry in addition to being a priest.

That’s why I’m saying it really isn’t hard to check for a first cousin status check. Heck, they can outsource it.
 
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The priest must have a license by the state/province to marry in addition to being a priest.
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Not necessarily. In my state, and in many others, just the fact of being some kind of minister legally allows you to witness a marriage. I needed no such license and I’ve been performing marriages that had civil effect for three years now. In some states, you do have to register at the courthouse in order to witness marriages, but in most that isn’t the case.

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Also not necessarily. There are plenty of things that impede a marriage canonically that do not impede it civilly. If you were previously married and divorced, you are impeded from marrying validly in the church, but not civilly.
 
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That’s why I’m saying it really isn’t hard to check for a first cousin status check. Heck, they can outsource it.
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This is my big concern for you here too. Why is this such a concern to you? As I understand it, you’re talking about a marriage that has since broken up, and in any case to which you were not a party. So why does it matter so much?
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My grandparents weren’t born in the US. I know that my grandmother’s birth certificate isn’t even correct, she was 2 yrs older and a different month. Even in the US, live births didn’t happen automatically and you had some time before you had to “register”.
 
Birth certificates of Grandparents? That would be overly burdensome and unnecessary to determine 1st cousin status.
 
That assumes that the alleged grandparents are in fact the biological grandparents.
 
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Not in the US.
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Actually, in Ohio, you do. 😉
 
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You make it seem like they hand those out like flyers.
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Dispensations for consanguinity? Let’s just say that I’ve seen more than a few in my dealings with parish registers. In one isolated parish in particular every second wedding seemed to have such a dispensation.

If it’s not forbidden by law, and in Canada it isn’t, why would the Church forbid it?
 
The issue is how does the Church view the children of a marriage where no dispensation occurred and where the parents were aware. What is their status? Legit … yes no. Not civil, in the eyes of the Church.
 
In Ontario, Canada you do too. The civil aspect is outsourced to the priest.

It’s a gray area. I believe the civil marriage would be valid, but there is a concept of civil annulment. Very confusing.
 
Don’t know – I think first cousin should not be allowed by civil law also. The Catholic Church did not make up these rules arbitrarily. Rather, they took a scientific approach, which I applaud them for.
 
I’m oversimplifying I guess. First cousins to me means my kid marries my sister’s kid. How is that hard to catch?
 
Catholic? A skipper can marry at sea but not dry land. Here there is a database of priests who are licensed to marry. Huge Excel spreadsheet.
 
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