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Ignatios
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…and who else but Rome had universal jurisdiction (rule over the brethren like Peter was given by Christ) as witnessed through the history of the Church?
Let us look at the History then:Edit: The Pope was given privileges and prerogatives of which I spoke of that were unique to it’s see (as attested by the fathers, councils, scripture and history).
Okay, I believ we went through enough fathers, posting more fathers doesn’t affirm it more than it already did, so let us look at the councils:
1st E. Council was summoned by the Emperor without any consultation with the Pope.
2nd E.C. without the knowledge or presence of any Western Bishops.
4th E.C. It was held on the contrary to expressed desire of Pope Leo I in the case of Chalcedon, when he only gave a reluctant consent after the Emperor Marcian had already convoked the synod.
5th E.C. Pope Vigilius was against it, he was censored but not named, Pope Vigilius boycott the Council, only to come back later on and ask the Patriarch of Constantinople to bring him back to the unity of the catholic Church
…And again here where Vigilius asked the Patriarch of Constantinople to bring him to the unity of the catholic Church:(Hefele, History of the Councils, Vol. IV., p. 289.)
In accordance with the imperial command, but without the assent of the Pope, …Among those present were the Patriarchs, Eutychius of Constantinople, who presided, Apollinaris of Alexandria, Domninus of Antioch, three bishops as representatives of the Patriarch Eustochius of Jerusalem, and 145 other metropolitans and bishops, of whom many came also in the place of absent colleagues.
Now as for the Scriptures, this you have to show me where The Lord Jesus Christ had said to St Peter to give the power and the headship only to the Pope?Historical Note.
(Fleury. Hist. Eccl., Liv. xxxiii. 52.)
At last the Pope Vigilius resigned himself to the advice of the Council, and six months afterwards wrote a letter to the Patriarch Eutychius, wherein he confesses that he has been wanting in charity in dividing from his brethren. He adds, that one ought not to be ashamed to retract, when one recognises the truth, and brings forward the example of Augustine. He says, that, after having better examined the matter of the Three Chapters, he finds them worthy of condemnation. “We recognize for our brethren and colleagues all those who have condemned them, and annul by this writing all that has been done by us or by others for the defence of the three chapters.”
And as for the History,… I mean 2000 years If I was to say 5 words for every year that would that would be 10000 words, this would be a novel, so I will a few things from the history :
Pope Victor and the Churches of Asia (A.D. 190):
“Thereupon Victor, head of the Roman Church attempted at one stroke to cut off from the common unity all the Asian diocese, together with the neighboring churches, on the ground of heterodoxy.” [3]
In another word the Greeks told the Pope in plain Greek to mind his own business.Note here it states that Victor attempted. He failed because “…this was not to the taste of all the bishops: they replied with a request that he would turn his mind to the things that make for peace and unity and love towards his neighbours. We still possess the words of these men who very sternly rebuked Victor. Among them was Irenaeus, who wrote on behalf of the Christians for whom he was
responsible for in Gaul.” ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf201.iii.x.xxv.html
Now off to Pope Stephen I with Cyprian:
It doesn’t seems like Cyprian liked the Pope to interfere in his own jurisdiction either.The Synod Held at Carthage Over Which Presided the Great and Holy Martyr Cyprian, Bishop of Carthage.a.d. 257.
For no one [of us ] has set himself up [to be] bishop [of bishops ], or attempted with tyrannical dread to force his colleagues to obedience to him, since every bishop has, for the license of liberty and power, his own will, and as he cannot be judged by another, so neither can he judge another. But we await the judgment of our universal Lord, our Lord Jesus Christ, who one and alone hath the power, both of advancing us in the governance of his Church, and of judging of our actions [in that position].
But was that only the idea of the African Churches, let us look, what is there:
continue…