Do Traditional Catholics Accept Theistic Evolution?

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Do you accept theistic evolution? Is creationism part of traditional Catholicism?
 
Can we have a definition of theistic evolution please? Then we know what the vote is all about.

Tanks
 
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Can we have a definition of theistic evolution please? Then we know what the vote is all about.

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It can mean different things to different people. If you can reconcile any version of the theory of evolution with your theology in any way, shape, or form, I would call that “accepting theistic evolution”.
 
Are you asking if trad Cats accept or deny the literal interpretation of Genesis, and hence the design of the universe by an omnipotent Deity?
 
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Are you asking if trad Cats accept or deny the literal interpretation of Genesis, and hence the design of the universe by an omnipotent Deity?
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Well, that way of phrasing it is really loaded and biased towards creationism. I’m asking if traditional catholics would describe themselves as believing in theistic evolution. If you don’t know what it means, then the answer is most likely no.
 
OK so.

I was just trying to work out what you meant - if the clarifications mix things up (now that’s an interesting dilemma), I’m sorry!

“I reject theistic evolution. I’m a traditional Catholic.”
 
I really don’t care either way. I voted in favor of Theistic Evolution though as I could accept it as a reasonable origin theory. For sure I know that man was specially created as written by Pope Pius XII.
 
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I really don’t care either way. I voted in favor of Theistic Evolution though as I could accept it as a reasonable origin theory. For sure I know that man was specially created as written by Pope Pius XII.
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My sentiments exactly.
 
I see no reason why science and faith must clash.

I think God guides evolution.
 
Our creation was clearly guided by God, and part of that could have been through an evolutionary process.

Evolution can explain the uninteresting things about humans (the ways in which we are like other animals) but not the interesting ones (how we are different from every animal).

Evolution has nothing to say on the things that make us uniquely human, for that we must look to God.

God Bless
 
I am not entirely sure I would be labled a ‘traditional’ Catholic, but depending on the definition I think I might, and I fancy the title and I think tradition (small t) should always remain if there is not a grave reason to change it. Big T never changes of course. As for evolution:

When one looks at the tradition itself, I would think accepting theistic evolution is perfectly fine, especially considering the senses in which Scripture can be read without denying it’s (Sacred Scripture’s) truth or divine inspiration. Christendom or Evolution as a mutually exlusive is very false in my eyes. Even viewing them as a dichotomy I think is slightly ignorant. I think without the Church we would not have the fortune of such rational theories being widespread, not to mention the scientific method’s outlook on reality.

One should alsways direct their eyes to the laws of nature/physics which pervade EVERY determined material thing. What is their cause? With that in mind evolution would not sound so simple as “God dropped the first dominoe and started the chain”, but rather “God is **still **presently directing every last motion that is not free through eternal law”.
 
Thanks everyone.

I had to ask after hearing Bishop Williamson talk about all the geological evidence of the flood, and how deceived scientists are. It’s at exactly 2 minutes in the following video.

youtube.com/watch?v=VkaLG1mEzl8&feature=related

Was just wondering if this is typical Trad catholic belief.
 
From the video:

“The geologists are liars”.
“It is all lies”.
“I’m not a scientist, so I don’t know the details, but…”

Doesn’t surprise me that he denies the holocaust.

Peace

Tim
 
Neil_Anthony said:
Thanks everyone.

I had to ask after hearing Bishop Williamson talk about all the geological evidence of the flood, and how deceived scientists are. It’s at exactly 2 minutes in the following video.

youtube.com/watch?v=VkaLG1mEzl8&feature=related

Was just wondering if this is typical Trad catholic belief.
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Technically, evolution and the flood do not conflict at all. Alot of cultures describe a great flood occuring in the past.

BUT, nevertheless, the Bishop seems to take the Bible as a history lesson.
 
A traditional Catholic can accept any beleif they want so long as it is not condemned by the Church. Evolution is not a condemned idea. In fact, it is likely that the Church would have fully come to terms and accepted it even if Vatican II had never happened.

Bob
 
Alot of cultures describe a great flood occuring in the past.
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Even Plato does, though I think that he mentions it as if it happened more than once.
 
Orogeny said:
From the video:

“The geologists are liars”.
“It is all lies”.
“I’m not a scientist, so I don’t know the details, but…”

Doesn’t surprise me that he denies the holocaust.

Peace

Tim
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I really like his preaching style though. He seems very sincere and a good speaker. Did you listen to the whole sermon?
 
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