Do venial sin weaken prayers?
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gazelam
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I’m not Catholic, but I thought Catholics believe that venial sins are automatically forgiven during Mass. So from a Catholic POV, wouldn’t venial sins be released from your souls during Mass?
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Anthony_V
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Prayer itself can easily remit venial sin. Simply say an act of contrition or make an act of love for God.
If you intend to pray without much concern for your venial sins – you are not contrite for them or taking steps to work on at least some of them – then yes, you will slide backwards. But as long as you are working on moving forward, one step at a time, your charity for God will be steadily increasing.
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USMC_Convert
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Yes, you are correct, any venial sins one has are forgiven during the Mass, however I think what the OP is saying, correct me if I’m wrong, is if you still have the venial sins on your soul. In that case I would say no, they don’t weaken our prayers or the effects of our prayers but they weaken us, our ability to receive God’s grace and follow Him.
For instance, I think, that with venial sins on your soul it would be harder to respond to God’s calling, say to pray for someone else, or commit an act of charity, than if you had no sins on your soul. The more selfish we are, the less likely we will be to respond to the calling of the Holy Spirit.
Another reason why people should attend Mass daily…
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Mary_Ellen
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Venial sins may weaken the pray-er (the who) but not the prayer (the what). Mortal sins are another story.
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Bookcat
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Yes venial sin* can *be forgiven during Mass. (the word automatically though would not be apt).
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Bookcat
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“Venial sin does not break the covenant with God but it weakens charity and manifests a disordered affection for created goods. It impedes the progress of a soul in the exercise of the virtues and in the practice of moral good.”
~ Compendium issued by Pope Benedict XVI
vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html
Remember venial sins can be forgiven in many ways… Prayer - espec, the Lords Prayer, contrition, acts of love etc -so do not wait for confession to seek forgiveness…
But yes confession is one such very important way (and such brings more than forgiveness- see the Catechism on frequent confession of venial sins).
~ Compendium issued by Pope Benedict XVI
vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html
Remember venial sins can be forgiven in many ways… Prayer - espec, the Lords Prayer, contrition, acts of love etc -so do not wait for confession to seek forgiveness…
But yes confession is one such very important way (and such brings more than forgiveness- see the Catechism on frequent confession of venial sins).
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Bookcat
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The guilt is forgiven.
Your thinking of the temporal effects of sin - they may not be removed yet or may be removed completely or partially. Hence the great gift of indulgences.
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Bookcat
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CCC:
I am confused now.
1472 To understand this doctrine and practice of the Church, it is necessary to understand that sin has a double consequence. Grave sin deprives us of communion with God and therefore makes us incapable of eternal life, the privation of which is called the “eternal punishment” of sin. On the other hand every sin, even venial, entails an unhealthy attachment to creatures, which must be purified either here on earth, or after death in the state called Purgatory. This purification frees one from what is called the “temporal punishment” of sin. These two punishments must not be conceived of as a kind of vengeance inflicted by God from without, but as following from the very nature of sin. A conversion which proceeds from a fervent charity can attain the complete purification of the sinner in such a way that no punishment would remain.84
1473 The forgiveness of sin and restoration of communion with God entail the remission of the eternal punishment of sin, but temporal punishment of sin remains. While patiently bearing sufferings and trials of all kinds and, when the day comes, serenely facing death, the Christian must strive to accept this temporal punishment of sin as a grace. He should strive by works of mercy and charity, as well as by prayer and the various practices of penance, to put off completely the “old man” and to put on the "new man."85
www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p2s2c2a4.htm#1472
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Bookcat
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Venial sin involves also a disordered attachment to creatures by the nature of the sin- which have to be purified here or later by the purification of purgatory. Such may be fully removed at the time of forgiveness of the sin or may not be. Indulgences can by the intercession of the Church help all this more quickly.
I am confused now.
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Roseeurekacross
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Hi Nelka,
Nothing weakens our prayer . Prayer is praise and adoration of God. The Our Father, taught to us by Jesus starts with praise of God, asks for our daily needs to be met, our sins forgiven, and to keep us safe from the evil one.
Jesus set no conditions on who could or could not say this prayer, or on the state of their mortal soul required to pray The Our Father.
Confession is a great sacrament. For everyone. Make use of it regularily. Great for non scrupulous and scrupulous alike.
And I must say To determine if a sin was mortal or venial is really only discerned with a Priest after discussion. Even then , the Priest will give absolution.
Charity is a virtue, and way of being, talking, acting, responding, giving, helping, loving. This virtue can be strengthened daily, simply by walking, talking, living Love and responding with Love.
Yes we must sometimes pray to give love rather then anger, frustration, etc. To keep silent and think love rather then ********
All Glory to God.
Another great prayer is the Glory Be.
Nothing weakens our prayer . Prayer is praise and adoration of God. The Our Father, taught to us by Jesus starts with praise of God, asks for our daily needs to be met, our sins forgiven, and to keep us safe from the evil one.
Jesus set no conditions on who could or could not say this prayer, or on the state of their mortal soul required to pray The Our Father.
Confession is a great sacrament. For everyone. Make use of it regularily. Great for non scrupulous and scrupulous alike.
And I must say To determine if a sin was mortal or venial is really only discerned with a Priest after discussion. Even then , the Priest will give absolution.
Charity is a virtue, and way of being, talking, acting, responding, giving, helping, loving. This virtue can be strengthened daily, simply by walking, talking, living Love and responding with Love.
Yes we must sometimes pray to give love rather then anger, frustration, etc. To keep silent and think love rather then ********
All Glory to God.
Another great prayer is the Glory Be.
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