Do we as Catholics worship Mary

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allhers said:
So that we all may be one, amen, that is what Jesus and the Blessed Mother pray for too, and I join them in their prayers for our unity. :signofcross:
That is what I find so awesome about the people from differing denominations when they join the Catholic Church, people like Scott Hahn, Tim Staples, and so many others…they are just so inspiring to listen to and read about, their conversion stories are so awesome, have you ever watched The Journey Home with Marcus Grodi?
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How about those who arent in your church? I think you may have missed the point of the post.
 
sola_scriptura said:
The birthday of your church was when Constantine converted the empire. The birthday of Christianity was when Christ was risen!
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Wrong, that is your version, our version is Pentacost, the coming of the Holy Spirit, as Jesus said!!! They were all gathered in prayer, Jesus’ Apostles and His Blessed Mother.
 
sola_scriptura said:
No, your church named her queen of heaven, God made her blessed among women. I would ask you if you know where the idea of queen mother comes from (in scripture)?

You say she was crowned as the queen of heaven (which I suppose you derive from Rev. 12). This is poor exegesis, pure & simple.
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In the OT, when a nation was led into battle, the Queen Mother was often carried on her seat/throne/chair to the battle site. This was to encourage those in battle to fight harder, for there was only one Queen Mother.

Also, Scripture reveals that kings would place their mom next to them, on a throne,… not a wife

Also, the Ark of the Covenant had an empty chair on top, carried everywhere the Ark was carried… hhmmmm

there is much more… but I am also watching my Tigers beat the Royals (not the Royal Queen Mother:p ) again.
 
MrS said:
not in Scripture, unless somewhere it says

“…and the coach can call himself Rev, for he is saved with no proof of authority… and he need not answer any questions directly…”
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so you now need authority to be saved? I didnt know a Pope was crucified and raised so you could be saved. I am getting embarrassed for you…please just stop
 
sola_scriptura said:
Funny, we have many more Catholics joining us than the other way around? Not trying to incite any hostility … we ought to be able to discuss these important issues with civility and a right temperment.
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very true…they are running from the RC in droves…wonder why
 
allhers said:
Wrong, that is your version, our version is Pentacost, the coming of the Holy Spirit, as Jesus said!!! They were all gathered in prayer, Jesus’ Apostles and His Blessed Mother.
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Gee, we celebrate it every year SS… It is a really big deal for us Catholics…

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MrS said:
In the OT, when a nation was led into battle, the Queen Mother was often carried on her seat/throne/chair to the battle site. This was to encourage those in battle to fight harder, for there was only one Queen Mother.

Also, Scripture reveals that kings would place their mom next to them, on a throne,… not a wife

Also, the Ark of the Covenant had an empty chair on top, carried everywhere the Ark was carried… hhmmmm

there is much more… but I am also watching my Tigers beat the Royals (not the Royal Queen Mother:p ) again.
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She is the God bearer, the Ark of the New Covenant.
 
Okay how abou you sola-scripta Since coach wont answer me do you believe in Canon of scripture?

How many times do you need to be answered???
 
thecoach said:
so you now need authority to be saved? I didnt know a Pope was crucified and raised so you could be saved. I am getting embarrassed for you…please just stop
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Now THAT is funny. Do you honestly think that we respect the pope more than we worship Christ? Like really? :rolleyes:
 
MrS said:
And blessing to you for a direct and consise answer that comes from you.

As you have probably seen here already, that is not an attribute of the rev/coach.

May he follow your lead and quit acting like he never had any, ANY, training to be a REV… much less any authority.

oopps… mybad… he said he answered all those questions already… must have been in invisible ink.

But, seriously, thank you for stepping up to the plate and being honest with yourself… and thus with us…
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MrS, I see your rituals are having quite an effect on you…
 
sola_scriptura said:
Of course I’ve read this … again, this bears no relevance to issue at hand? Mary was there (in the upper room) at Pentecost, how does this make her queen of heaven?
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Because we all know Jesus is the King Christ our King, And second how could she be a King for goodness sake shes is a woman a woman cant be a king she must be a Queen. Sorry couldnt pass it up!
 
Everybody say a prayer, take a deep breath, go back and read what people are saying, okay?😃
 
MrS said:
In the OT, when a nation was led into battle, the Queen Mother was often carried on her seat/throne/chair to the battle site. This was to encourage those in battle to fight harder, for there was only one Queen Mother.
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Yes indeed the mothers of Solomon and David were viewed in the context of queen. However, queen of Israel (look to Rev. 12:1 and note the crown of 12 stars as signifying the 12 tribes of Israel).

This is the distinction I’ve been talking about all along (but apparently have been ignored)?
Also, the Ark of the Covenant had an empty chair on top, carried everywhere the Ark was carried… hhmmmm
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Let me help you, the Ark is God’s throne (see 2 Samuel 6:2).
there is much more… but I am also watching my Tigers beat the Royals (not the Royal Queen Mother:p ) again.
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I look forward to debunking anything else you come with!
 
rinnie said:
Because we all know Jesus is the King Christ our King, And second how could she be a King for goodness sake shes is a woman a woman cant be a king she must be a Queen. Sorry couldnt pass it up!
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don’t Anglicans have queens?:rolleyes:
 
rinnie said:
Here is my point you said you believe in Scripture of Canon, now every scripture was written, copied translated handed down and preserved and canonized by the Catholic Church.by A church, yes You said you believe that God is one in three persons. But none of these things are expessly stated in Scripture.Oh, how many times…READ LAST CHAPTER OF MATTHEW!!! The teachings came down from Apostles through the Catholic Church. The church was born on Pentecost Sunday, not a word of the NT was written until ten years later.true, so youd think it would line up more with you your chruch teaches, instead of them having to reach In John the last words are it is impossible to write everything down. Now here is my question, how can you not trust the Church to teach the word of God when the Catholic Church is the only Church to have the Tradiion,you mean YOUR tradition Oral and written teachings. How can you doubt the teachings, and then turn around and believe the bible then. Your circular reasoning makes no sense Let me tell you what St Paul says That the Church not the bible is the pinnacle and foundation of the truth.a re-read of Timothy may clear this up for you How can you claim that the Church does not have the fullness of the truth and you do.Where did I say I have the fullness of truth? I dont take that on, only your pope has that audacity Why is it the only church that has all of this is the Catholic Church. So NOT ALL IS WRITTEN. When the Pope explains to us about the Blessed Mother who would know better than him.dont you see the control here? What do you mean who would know betterthan him? How aboutthsoe who wrote the Scripture and were just a few hundreds of years closer to the events than he is We believe in the Church we trust what St Paul told us.No you dont, you contradict it How can you not believe it either?very easily…I know better When it is the Catholic Church the Church still ran today by the Pope that has the fullness of the truth.in the catholic narrow view
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