Do we really want another 500 years of division between Catholics and Protestants?

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Christian_Unity said:
How am I supposed to catch up with all of these posts? Did we figure a way how to unite Catholics and Protestants? Can someone give me an update in a nutshell on this thread? I’ve been busy on the ecumencial Christian Fellowship Facebook site, and more and more Catholics are participating every day.

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Sadly, there will be no way to unite catholics and protestants without either the catholic church or the protestant churches abandoning their beliefs e.g. not one protestant believes in the sacrifice of the Mass, and the catholic church will never concede on this very important theological doctrine. Conversely, the catholic church will never embrace the practice of sola scriptura. 🤷
 
Christian_Unity said:
Do you believe Catholics and Protestants have the same God?
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I think we need to establish something, not only do Catholics and Protestants have the same God, but atheists have the same God, Muslims have the same God, every person on this planet and every living thing in the universe have the same God.

There is only One God, it is impossible to have another God. You can try to deny the truth as much as you want to, but the fact remains that there is one God - and no other.
I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and earth;
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son Our Lord,
Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended into Hell; the third day He rose again from the dead;
He ascended into Heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God, the Father almighty; from thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body and life everlasting.
Amen.
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I believe in one God, the Father Almighty,
maker of Heaven and earth and of all things
visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus
Christ, the only begotten Son of God, begotten
of his Father before all ages, God of God,
Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten,
not made, consubstantial with the
Father, by Whom all things were made; Who
for us men and for our salvation, came down
from Heaven, and was Incarnate by the Holy
Spirit of the Virgin Mary and was made Man;
He was crucified also for us under Pontius
Pilate, and was buried. And the
third day He rose again according to the
Scriptures, and ascended into Heaven. He
sitteth at the right hand of the Father: and He shall
come again with glory to judge the living
and the dead: and His kingdom shall have no end.
And in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and
Giver of life, Who proceedeth from the Father and
the Son, Who, together with the Father and the Son,
is adored and glorified: Who spoke by the
prophets. And I believe in one holy Catholic and
apostolic Church. I confess one Baptism
for the remission of sins. And I expect the resurrection
of the dead, and the life of the world to come.
Amen.
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Christianity did not start in the 1500’s

[bibledrb]Acts 11:26[/bibledrb]

For all this time the One Church has defended the Faith in its fulness. How can you expect for the One Church to give into false doctrines and heresies after all these centuries?

Would you be willing to put your soul at stake in order to compromise the One Truth?
 
cheezey said:
No, actually, I don’t think he did.
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Do you not think that this blog is evidence of the Reverend Billy Graham being rebuked for his positive comments regarding the Holy Father:

EDIT: I decided to delete the link, as the blog is so anti-Catholic that I cannot justify linking it here.

Suffice it to say that if you google “Billy Graham” and “Pope John Paul” you will find a multitude of sites that rebuke BG for his friendship with a Catholic leader.
 
PRmerger said:
Then what is keeping you from joining the Church at the Easter Vigil?
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  1. the fact that I feel as if I am running out of time to do this as one should
  2. there is but one Catholic Church I can get to; that priest indirectly referred to me as ‘the other one.’ ( I recognize that is not indicative of all priests; not by a
    long shot, but again, it’s the only Catholic Church I can get to.)
I had posted this somewhere and was told that - and I am paraphrasing because I don’t want to keep you waiting - “then you need to join and complete the RCIA, just like the rest of us.”
Now, I am sure that wasn’t meant to be harsh, but I took it that way because of my situation.
I had even asked, “what if I start and don’t complete it?” The answer was “Easter is completion.” I know this, too. What I meant to ask was, " what if* I *don’t make it to Easter?" Or complete the program. Deathbed conversion, then. Not sure yet if this will be necessary.
I believe what the Catholic Church believes about the Eucharist. I won’t get into why this is urgent; too complicated. But I want to experience the Holy Eucharist at least once before it becomes impossible, preferably with many more over many years.
 
cheezey said:
  1. there is but one Catholic Church I can get to; that priest indirectly referred to me as ‘the other one.’
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Huh? Why would that prevent you from entering the Catholic Church at Easter?

Are you saying that being referred to as “the other one” is offensive to you?
 
other as in “my brother’s Protestant sister”. I am not offended at all, but discouraged. I would really like to talk to the priest, or the appropriate person to discuss my options as they pertain to the extenuating circumstances. I’ve been going for about 4- 6 wks; no response. Busy time of year, I know, but…
 
itullian said:
as long as theres no central authority, doctrinal chaos will prevail.
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That may be so… but I know that I can’t reconcile myself to something that I don’t believe. Much of what the Magisterium teaches frustrates me because it is in stark contrast to what the Bible teaches. So… I guess that I am not loyal to any particular church… but I AM loyal to the truth of what God teaches. I don’t personally believe that it is revealed through the Catholic Church. I believe that central authory we should all have is Jesus Christ… not a mere man… especially a role that has spread mis-truths and lies throughout history. How can I now put my faith in that?

I think that there IS a central authority - Jesus Christ. Some choose to follow Him and some choose to follow a bunch of men instead!
We have doctrinal chaos because we disagree. As Christians it is OK to disagree (well Paul certainly thought that it was OK to disagree). We don’t have to agree on everything… the only thing required to believe is the nuts and bolts - and we all seem to concur on that (not including various cults etc…
 
Nikicosier said:
That may be so… but I know that I can’t reconcile myself to something that I don’t believe. Much of what the Magisterium teaches frustrates me because it is in stark contrast to what the Bible teaches.
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Can you give an example of one thing that the Magisterium teaches that is in stark contrast to what the Bible teaches?
 
Nikicosier said:
We don’t have to agree on everything… the only thing required to believe is the nuts and bolts - and we all seem to concur on that (not including various cults etc…
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The only way we know what the “nuts and bolts” of Christianity are is because of an authority telling us what’s the “nuts and bolts”–that is, the Catholic Church discerned for you and me what’s an essential belief and what’s not.

For the Bible does not tell us what’s an essential doctrine and what’s not.
 
777rak said:
Unity! It would be great if all of Christianity was united, meaning one Christian religion group.

Sadly, it appears that Protestant Christians are not entirely opened to want to fully learn what Catholicism truly is.
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Rubbish! I’ve been raised as a Protestant, attended a Catholic school and University and made a big study of your religion!

The same arguememnt could be said of Catholics holding onto their cultural beliefs and not wanting to see the truth.

I would describe myself as belonging to the one holy and Catholic apostolic church. I am not attached to my actual religion - I test everything i’m told by what the scriptures say (as we are commanded to do very strictly from the Bible). I’m attached to the truth…
I’m don’t believe that belonging to a PARTICULAR religion is necessary for my salvation (the Bible says that the only thing required is faith in Jesus Christ). I have that, thankfully!
 
Nikicosier said:
I’m don’t believe that belonging to a PARTICULAR religion is necessary for my salvation (the Bible says that the only thing required is faith in Jesus Christ). I have that, thankfully!
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I am not familiar with that verse. What verse says that the ONLY thing that is necessary for salvation is faith in Jesus? Book, chapter and verse, please.
 
cheezey said:
  1. the fact that I feel as if I am running out of time to do this as one should
  2. there is but one Catholic Church I can get to; that priest indirectly referred to me as ‘the other one.’ ( I recognize that is not indicative of all priests; not by a
    long shot, but again, it’s the only Catholic Church I can get to.)
I had posted this somewhere and was told that - and I am paraphrasing because I don’t want to keep you waiting - “then you need to join and complete the RCIA, just like the rest of us.”
Now, I am sure that wasn’t meant to be harsh, but I took it that way because of my situation.
I had even asked, “what if I start and don’t complete it?” The answer was “Easter is completion.” I know this, too. What I meant to ask was, " what if* I *don’t make it to Easter?" Or complete the program. Deathbed conversion, then. Not sure yet if this will be necessary.
I believe what the Catholic Church believes about the Eucharist. I won’t get into why this is urgent; too complicated. But I want to experience the Holy Eucharist at least once before it becomes impossible, preferably with many more over many years.
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God Bless you Cheezey and hang in there. We will be praying that you do experience Jesus in the Sacrament as your heart desires. In the meantime, may you enjoy spiritual communion with Him at every opportunity. We will also pray for your priest and RCIA folks that they can embrace you as they ought.
 
Nikicosier said:
Rubbish! I’ve been raised as a Protestant, attended a Catholic school and University and made a big study of your religion!

The same arguememnt could be said of Catholics holding onto their cultural beliefs and not wanting to see the truth.

I would describe myself as belonging to the one holy and Catholic apostolic church. I am not attached to my actual religion - I test everything i’m told by what the scriptures say (as we are commanded to do very strictly from the Bible). I’m attached to the truth…
I’m don’t believe that belonging to a PARTICULAR religion is necessary for my salvation (the Bible says that the only thing required is faith in Jesus Christ). I have that, thankfully!
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Niki, what is the denomination of the Church that you attend? Do you believe that all truth comes from the bible? And that the bible alone is needed for a Christian?
 
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