Do you agree seminary education should be free? (excluding living expenses)

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I DO work for free if it is religious work. I WON’t work for free outside religion.
 
More like you shall not have food, clothing, or shelter because it’s all about me and what I want. If I want a free education then you should live on air. Sorry, but it’s not all about you and faculty can’t live on air.
 
I am not saying they should live on air. I am saying that they can ask for donations instead of forcing a bill down a seminarian’s throat.
 
P: Your heart is in the right place. It is just the nature of society. One has to earn a living to pay one’s bills. I would love to do what I do for free. But the guy at the gas station still wants $35 for the fill up; the clerk in the grocery store wants $55 for the eats, the electric company wants $42 a month for the lights, etc. Seminary professors need to make a living.
 
P: you and I are the public, the laity of the RCC is the public. I hope you are not suggesting that the local Assembly of God, or Presbyterian church, or the atheist or agnostic down the block dig into his/her pocket to train priests for something they don’t believe in.
 
Catholic schools were free in the olden days.
Very few lay employees and they didn’t get benefits, etc.
You’d need to find a better way to finance their education than free will donations
 
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P: you and I are the public, the laity of the RCC is the public
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Yes, we are the public and we donate certain amount. BUT if that amount is insufficient, the religious institute should not FORCE then to donate more to fix the bill. That’s no longer religious, that’s money making business as the focus is now more on money than God.
 
So someone spends the time and money to get a Ph.D., spends their life teaching in a place that normally doesn’t pay as well as a secular university, and then is supposed to subsist on whatever people happen to feel like tossing their way? Do you honestly think people can support themselves or their families that way?

And why does it make a difference what the tuition is if the bishop or order is paying it anyway? Where are you finding these seminarians who are being forced to pay by themselves?
 
SEMINARIANS do not pay for their seminary education. Their orders or dioceses do. Honestly, do you really think this is some kind of lone ranger kind of operation? People are sponsored. NO one is a seminarian of their own volition.
 
My diocese pays $55,000 a year for each seminarian. In some dioceses, Catholic schools pay about $15,000 a year to teachers without any pensions. In San Antonio, each parish may keep “pension” funds for the clergy/parish of lay teachers by forgetting that the teachers worked in the schools.
 
I got 99.9% free college education thanks to my state’s VR service.

I’m sure the capitalists & libertarians are not happy to know about my lucky chance.
 
Seminaries have to keep the lights on somehow. They have to hire outside people to run the dining hall, not to mention cleaning staff (at least at the one in my diocese). Besides, the professors are entitled to some sort of payment for their services, just as diocesan priests are. In fact, many of the professors in my diocese are laity. They certainly expect payment. Aside from that, students of the minor seminary get a tuition discount from the university they take the bulk of their classes at.
 
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I am not saying they should live on air. I am saying that they can ask for donations instead of forcing a bill down a seminarian’s throat.
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But being a seminarian is NOT a guarantee of being a priest. One of my good friends is a former seminarian. He went for three YEARS …and that’s after having paid for his own undergrad and Master’s educations.

I once dated a man who went to seminary for 2 years. I know a few who dropped out after the first semester.

I also know quite a few women who discerned out of a religious education.

The fact of the matter is that education costs money and while many young men are from dioceses who can afford the tuition there are some who are not. The seminary is NOT simply a school for priests. This isn’t like going into Harvard and walking out with your CPA if you study hard enough. No amount of education, dedication and propensity will make you a priest.
 
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joeybaggz:
P: you and I are the public, the laity of the RCC is the public
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Yes, we are the public and we donate certain amount. BUT if that amount is insufficient, the religious institute should not FORCE then to donate more to fix the bill. That’s no longer religious, that’s money making business as the focus is now more on money than God.
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Wait, so if a parish/dioceses had $80k to drop each year per seminarian but they really only needed 30k per young man…but put aside that much…and another parish/dioceses had only $10k per year per young man and the seminary still wanted $30k then how would that work in your book?
 
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