Do you believe everything the Catholic Church teaches?

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Monicathree:
BTW- believing doesn’t mean understanding, somethings just can’t be understood, but isn’t that why God is God!!

peace
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And why faith is faith 👍
 
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StephiePea:
What is a cafeteria catholic?
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Like in a cafeteria, it is a person who goes along and picks and chooses what they like and what look good to them… It is good for you to eat your vegies even if you don’t like them 🙂 The Church knows what is good for us.
 
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Monicathree:
I am a new convert 2002. Yes, I believe everything that the church teaches by its Divine Authority. There must be absolute truth. We can’t pick and choose. This logic is a big part of why I converted to Catholicism wholeheartedly!!

BTW- believing doesn’t mean understanding, somethings just can’t be understood, but isn’t that why God is God!!

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Great response. I am glad to have you as a fellow Catholic. Your faith is an inspiration to everyone.
 
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Asking:
No

I “still” dont belive 100% in the bodily assumption of Mary, sometimes I find myself doubting, I dont belive in some of her aparitions, or her being co redemptrix and mediatrix of all graces at all.

or the scapular, the medal, or worshipping Jesus or Mary’s heart.

But I think only her assumption is dogma of all those I mentioned above.
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You are not required to believe in apparitions at all, but it is not a very Catholic thing not to.

You must believe She is Mediatrix of All Graces, for that is already defined by the Church.

You are not required to believe in the Scapular or medal, as far as I know, but to not do so would be similar to not believing in the Rosary…

No one says to worship the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Why would you be opposed to worshipping Christ?

Why do you doubt the Assumption?
 
Madaglan,

God bless you for your searching heart. I pray you will grow in your Catholic faith here. If you want to discuss any personal doctrinal issues with me, please feel free to PM me. My e-mail address is gfrancisg@yahoo.com.

God bless,

Greg
 
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CatholicCrusade:
You are not required to believe in apparitions at all, but it is not a very Catholic thing not to.

You must believe She is Mediatrix of All Graces, for that is already defined by the Church.

You are not required to believe in the Scapular or medal, as far as I know, but to not do so would be similar to not believing in the Rosary…

No one says to worship the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Why would you be opposed to worshipping Christ?

Why do you doubt the Assumption?
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I dont have a problem at all with worshipping Jesus or asking the virgin Mary to pray for me, maybe the problem is that no one taught me the teology behind it, but worshipping body parts looks weird to me.

I dont think that mary mediatrix of all graces and co redemptrix have been defined as Dogma.

I was baptised catholic when I was born, but I wasnt really “raised” catholic, many of the things I listed above are rather new concepts for me, 3 years ago I didnt know catholics believed Mary was assumed to heaven.

I belive in her assumption, but it is my most feeble belief, sometimes my skepticism makes me doubt.
 
I do believe in everything the Church teaches. Actually the more I struggle with various issues, the more I study Church’s position on them, the more I realize that the Church is RIGHT (surprize, surprize …)
 
I got hung up on all of the above before my reversion. The first to go was my secular belief in abortion. Each of my old beliefs (what I was taught by society) was knocked down in turn. I trust the Church in everything she teaches.
 
This is the most difficult chapter for many catholics today, I believe in everything but I know that there are very difficult things like divorcing and others but respect the dogmas, I don´t live in a protestant society, I don´t have any doubt, because for example Christmas isn´t in the Bible and the protestants celebrate it, greetings
 
YES, as a convert from the baptist faith. I was told to follow the bible and all it said.{this was echoed by the priestwho taught rcia} In doing so I started asking questions that the baptist minister could not answer. He incouraged me to pray and look for the truth. I did that and became catholic. And I can say the only church that had all the correct teachings was the Catholic church. So yes I believe all that it teaches.🙂
 
She’s the Bride of Christ. If I disagree with her, I disagree with Christ.

He promised to lead us to ALL truth.

However, I have found that if I find any problems with any doctrine, all I have ever had to do was research the official reasons and rationales, and I’ve always found a reasonable, logical and sound backing for any given doctrine.
 
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N2STC:
Good Posts!

We are compelled to believe dogma and that which is taught infallibly(sp?), not the opions of some members of the Church. We don’t need to understand to believe. Struggling with something doesn’t mean we don’t believe it. I tell my CCD students “Don’t seek to understand so you can believe, believe, so that you may understand.” Our tiny intellect can’t necessary grasp all of 2,000 years of divinely inspired wisdom.

God bless
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What an awesome summation! That is exactly what I went through when I converted from agnosticism. It’s amazing how your mind can grasp things if you just open it a crack. Otherwise, you’re staring at the same 4 walls and never seeing past.
 
space ghost:
hmmmmm :hmmm: pretty interesting quote at the bottom of your post… about the splinter and beam i mean… especially when paraphrasing past presidents and California Catholics… :cool:
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I meant nothing uncharitable to either President Clinton (the “definition of is” is just one of the quotes I have heard) or California Catholics (I am one!). In regards to the the latter, I have found that a lot of the Catholics in California tend to play fast and loose with the Catechism…especially when it comes to their “conscience” trumping teachings they don’t care for.

Finally, the verse, to me, is one of the Lord’s hardest sayings. I put it there as a reminder to myself. Obviously, I failed again! :o

BTW…I also used the verse quite a bit as an athiest when Protestants were condemning me to hell.

God bless you SpaceGhost. I enjoy your posts!

rlg
 
Well, do you believe everything your math teacher teaches…

Or are you smarter than a few thousand years of tradition?
 
There are a few things the Catholic Church teaches that I don’t “agree” with in the sense that I have yet to see a pursuasive argument to support them. I can’t really claim to believe them. However, I trust that the Church is wiser than I - and I believe in its docterinal infallability (which doesn’t necessaraly mean it’s theological reasoning is right, just that the answers are).

I’m not quite sold on birth control - though I’m coming around a bit, in part with help from the Pope’s “Love and Responsibility” - but I will obey the Church on the mater none the less.
 
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adnauseum:
Well, do you believe everything your math teacher teaches…

Or are you smarter than a few thousand years of tradition?
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There may be a few thousand years of tradition but threre have only been a few hundred years in which human knowledge and experience was advanced enough to require alterations to tradition in order to make it tenable. Unfortunately, it is too easy to worship the tradition instead of using the tradition as a growing and developing means of seeing God.
 
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patg:
there have only been a few hundred years in which human knowledge and experience was advanced enough to require alterations to tradition in order to make it tenable.
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I genuinely and honestly have no idea what you are trying to say.

I sense you are implying that human nature has improved in the last 200 years, making it necessary to alter Church doctrine. Or maybe that people are becoming smarter or something.

My observation is that people are becoming very dumb as time passes. The golden era of the Church Fathers was one in which educated people understood Greek, were familiar with logic and rhetoric, history and philosophy, even advanced mathematics.

Any alterations to Church Doctrine would have to be to dumb it down.

For example, in my karate class, the instructor tells us that the first thing to remember is to avoid conflict, try to run away, and only if you have to should you fight to defend yourself. If the discipline of karate went the way of liberals, we would see kids going to karate class and skipping over the part about defending yourself, just repeating the mantra that fighting is wrong no matter what.

Is it easier to learn karate this way? Of course it is. One needs no personal exertion. But is it karate anymore? Of course not.

This is what liberals are trying to do to the Church. They want to magnify the parts they understand, or find easy to do, and ignore the rest. While I can understand the desire to do this, I also know it is the wrong way to go.
 
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adnauseum:
My observation is that people are becoming very dumb as time passes. The golden era of the Church Fathers was one in which educated people understood Greek, were familiar with logic and rhetoric, history and philosophy, even advanced mathematics.
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The golden era of the Church Fathers was also one in which very, very few people were educated at all. So the depth of education might have been greater (we could argue that as well), but the breadth was much narrower.
 
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Catholic_Mike:
There are a few things the Catholic Church teaches that I don’t “agree” with in the sense that I have yet to see a pursuasive argument to support them. I can’t really claim to believe them. However, I trust that the Church is wiser than I - and I believe in its docterinal infallability (which doesn’t necessaraly mean it’s theological reasoning is right, just that the answers are).

I’m not quite sold on birth control - though I’m coming around a bit, in part with help from the Pope’s “Love and Responsibility” - but I will obey the Church on the mater none the less.
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Bravo! :clapping:

As a convert, I struggled with certain Truths, and I was initially given some poor guidance regarding Church teaching. I learned to take the same attitude as you, and now I am constantly growing in my understanding of the Church.

God bless you in your journey,
RLG

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