Do you believe there is a real hell? Poll

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halogirl said:
Our priests on the RCIA course said that basically hell is when you choose repeatedly to be away from God even fully knowing him for who he is. They said it’s a locked cage but you hold the key and God will try and try to let you out
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Here’s what the book of Revelation says about hell being a real place. If anybody is doing any of these things, please repent of your sins, and stop sinning so you won’t go to this place of eternal torment.

Revelation 21:8
8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, the murderers, the fornicators, the sorcerers, the idolaters, and all liars, their place will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
 
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EvangelistVictor said:
Here’s what the book of Revelation says about hell being a real place. If anybody is doing any of these things, please repent of your sins, and stop sinning so you won’t go to this place of eternal torment. Revelation 21:8
8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, the murderers, the fornicators, the sorcerers, the idolaters, and all liars, their place will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
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A frightening passage. I don’t know of anyone who has never, ever told a lie. And as for idolatry, I do believe everyone is guilty of that. We all have things, people and entertainments we love more than we love God. Patriotism, political loyalty, mother love, sports, music, movies, video games, delicious food…any of these things can take God’s rightful place in our lives if we allow them to. None of them should even come close to arousing the same enthusiasm in us that Christ should rightfully arouse. When I think of how easy it is for me to forget Christ in my momentary excitement over something else, I am humbled and sobered.
 
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Those who do not believe in Hell are those most likely to go there. - St Alphonsus Ligouri.
 
I once read that by letting the damned souls go to hell, God is doing them a favor, as heaven would be even more unbearable for them. That letting those who die in a state of mortal sin go to hell is an example of God’s mercy.
 
kill051 said:
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I wonder which is more over populated and over run -
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I don’t think there is any doubt about the answer to this. Narrow is the gate…
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This is not a quantitative statement, such as materialists would take it. Remember, the kingdom of God does not evaluate things as human beings do.
 
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Dante is a good writer, but he made some major mistakes based on his political leanings… He even placed St. Celestine V in Hell.
 
CRM_Brother said:
Dante is a good writer, but he made some major mistakes based on his political leanings… He even placed St. Celestine V in Hell
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Only God truly knows who’s in heaven or hell. Nobody but God can see the secret sins they do in darkness.

**Matthew 7:
Concerning Self-Deception
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.
 
EvangelistVictor said:
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CRM_Brother:
Dante is a good writer, but he made some major mistakes based on his political leanings… He even placed St. Celestine V in Hell
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Only God truly knows who’s in heaven or hell. Nobody but God can see the secret sins they do in darkness.

**Matthew 7:
Concerning Self-Deception
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.
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Yes.
The Church does not canonize the damned.

Speculation about who is there, or how many, is not very productive.
 
po18guy said:
I agree with the title of Archbishop Fulton Sheen’s book:

“The Hell There Is!”
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I love Bishop Sheen! We always used to watch his TV show, from the time I was little. (Yeah, I’m that old.)

He used to tell a story about someone that approached him one day after he had given a sermon, either at Mass or a talk of some kind, where he had spoken about Hell. They told him that they had liked most of what he said, except they didn’t really believe in Hell, at all. Bishop Sheen quickly responded, “You will when you get there!” That’ll make you stop and think, won’t it? 🤣
 
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Of course hell is real. I think most of us experience foretastes of it quite a bit and I don’t just mean traffic jams or arguments or suffering. Hell is the absence of good, God, love.

The good news is that heaven is also real and most of us probably experience foretastes, intimations of it as well, good, God, love, joy, thankfulness, grace, beauty.

I believe people actually know which way they will end up, on kind of an intuitive, unconscious level. Which has more sway, calls them.
 
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A moral certainty. From the Wiki:
"Canonization is a statement of the Church that the person certainly enjoys the Beatific Vision of Heaven. The title of “Saint” (Latin: “Sanctus” or “Sancta”) is then proper, reflecting that the Saint is a refulgence of the holiness (sanctitas) of God Himself, which alone comes from God’s gift. The Saint is assigned a feast day which may be celebrated anywhere in the universal Church, although it is not necessarily added to the General Roman Calendar
or local calendars as an “obligatory” feast; parish churches may be
erected in his honor; and the faithful may freely celebrate and honor
the Saint.
Although recognition of sainthood by the Pope does not directly concern a fact of Divine revelation, nonetheless it must be “definitively held” by the faithful as infallible pursuant to, at the least, the Universal Magisterium of the Church, because it is a truth related to revelation by historical necessity.[20][21]

(20) Doctrinal Commentary on the Concluding Formula of the Professio Fidei, by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (later Pope Benedict XVI), Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
(21) “Beatification and Canonization”, The Catholic Encyclopedia, Vol. 2. New York, New York: Robert Appleton Company, 1907. P. 366.
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IOW, as certain as we can be in this life. How could miracles attributed to their intercession occur otherwise? Hell is eternal separation from God - thus even the possibility of intercession has been severed.

The problem with many of us is that we are more concerned with souls in hell than we are with getting ourselves and loved ones into heaven.
 
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The fact is, to disbelieve in Hell is to discount Christ’s clear descriptions of it, as well as of the people who will be there, as reported in Scripture. Contradicting the doctrine of Hell means contradicting the very words of our Lord. I wouldn’t want to be in the shoes of anyone who tried to do that.
 
If there is no hell, then why did the Son of God become man to suffer and die, and to rise and ascend?
 
I’m not sure if I believe in Hell or not. I guess it is actually that I prefer not to believe in Hell because of knowing that God is a very loving God and very forgiving. For me this is very hard to know what to believe. When I see so much crime committed over and over again by the same person it makes me really confused.
 
lolly1 said:
m not sure if I believe in Hell or not. I guess it is actually that I prefer not to believe in Hell because of knowing that God is a very loving God and very forgiving. For me this is very hard to know what to believe. When I see so much crime committed over and over again by the same person it makes me really confused
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Here’s what Jesus says again.

The Narrow Door
Luke 13
22 Jesus went through one town and village after another, teaching as he made his way to Jerusalem. 23 Someone asked him, “Lord, will only a few be saved?” He said to them, 24 “Strive to enter through the narrow door; for many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able. 25 When once the owner of the house has got up and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and to knock at the door, saying, ‘Lord, open to us,’ then in reply he will say to you, ‘I do not know where you come from.’ 26 Then you will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.’ 27 But he will say, ‘I do not know where you come from; go away from me, all you evildoers!’ 28 There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrown out. 29 Then people will come from east and west, from north and south, and will eat in the kingdom of God. 30 Indeed, some are last who will be first, and some are first who will be last.”
 
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