Do you belive other gods exist?

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Thanks for clarifying a bit what makes a belief “Arian-ish”. Not sure whether a little child is inferior to its parent. One has become mature already and the other will become mature in the future. The child will eventually become like the parent, but at the present moment the parent has more ability than the child. The LDS view is that by the moment of His resurrection Christ possessed the same divine attributes as God the Father.
Would this mean that prior to the Resurrection, Christ was not fully divine, or did not possess “the same divine attributes as God the Father”?
Correct. Mortality was a learning experience for Christ as it was for us and He came through through victorious.

Luke 2:52 (KJV) And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.

Hebrews 5:8 (KJV) Though he were a Son, yet **learned he obedience **by the things which he suffered;

Hebrews 5:9 (KJV) And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

Mark 14:33 (KJV) And he taketh with him Peter and James and John, and began to be sore amazed (astonished), and to be very heavy;

A fully divine being doesn’t grow in wisdom, learn obedience, become perfect, and become astonished at something.

LDS like to point out that prior to His crucifixtion he commanded in Matthew 5:48 (KJV) “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.” He did not claim perfection yet. However, when preaching to the ancient Americans He commanded in the Book of Mormon in 3 Nephi 12:48 “Therefore I would that ye should be perfect even as I, or your Father who is in heaven is perfect.”

D&C 93:5-18 sums up beautifully Christ’s progression until receiving the fulness of the Father.

5 I (Christ) was in the world and received of my Father, and the works of him were plainly manifest.
6 And John [the Baptist] saw and bore record of the fulness of my glory, and the fulness of John’s record is hereafter to be revealed.
7 And he bore record, saying: I saw his glory, that he was in the beginning, before the world was;
8 Therefore, in the beginning the Word was, for he was the Word, even the messenger of salvation—
9 The light and the Redeemer of the world; the Spirit of truth, who came into the world, because the world was made by him, and in him was the life of men and the light of men.
10 The worlds were made by him; men were made by him; all things were made by him, and through him, and of him.
11 And I, John, bear record that I beheld his glory, as the glory of the Only Begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth, even the Spirit of truth, which came and dwelt in the flesh, and dwelt among us.
12 And I, John, saw that he received not of the fulness at the first, but received grace for grace;
13 And he received not of the fulness at first, but continued from grace to grace, until he received a fulness;

14 And thus he was called the Son of God, because he received not of the fulness at the first.
15 And I, John, bear record, and lo, the heavens were opened, and the Holy Ghost descended upon him in the form of a dove, and sat upon him, and there came a voice out of heaven saying: This is my beloved Son.
16 And I, John, bear record that he received a fulness of the glory of the Father;
17 And he received all power, both in heaven and on earth, and the glory of the Father was with him, for he dwelt in him.
18 And it shall come to pass, that if you are faithful you shall receive the fulness of the record of John.

I hope this helps…
 
if you are not Catholic do you believe that other gods exist or not?
I believe that Divinity is infinite, and that because of that, has an infinite “personalities”. People tend to assign distinct personhoods to those “personalities”. And thus “gods” are born.
 
I believe that Divinity is infinite, and that because of that, has an infinite “personalities”. People tend to assign distinct personhoods to those “personalities”. And thus “gods” are born.
And upon what do you base this belief? It may have merit by itself, but there is nothing to suggest it in our experience of God.
 
And upon what do you base this belief? It may have merit by itself, but there is nothing to suggest it in our experience of God.
Your experience of Divinity isn’t infinite?

Couple an infinity Divinity with 1000’s of different cultures and histories, and I don’t see how you couldn’t come up with 1000’s of different “gods”. 🙂
 
And upon what do you base this belief? It may have merit by itself, but there is nothing to suggest it in our experience of God.
That would imply that yours is the only experience that matters. Is that what your saying?
 
Your experience of Divinity isn’t infinite?
Rather, I’m asking how you reached the opinion that “Divinity,” as you call it, is not a person with infinitely perfect attributes, but rather an infinite number of personalities.
 
Your experience of Divinity isn’t infinite?

Couple an infinity Divinity with 1000’s of different cultures and histories, and I don’t see how you couldn’t come up with 1000’s of different “gods”. 🙂
I just saw your edit.

So you are saying that all of the gods that everyone ever worshiped are all one single god with an infinite number of personalities?

That’s interesting.
 
Rather, I’m asking how you reached the opinion that “Divinity,” as you call it, is not a person with infinitely perfect attributes, but rather an infinite number of personalities.
Ah. Personalities may not be the best word. Maybe “facets”? Would that be better?
 
That would imply that yours is the only experience that matters. Is that what your saying?
Actually the point is quite the opposite. This idea of relativism is what you and yours are proposing. The point is that we base our beliefs off of MORE than our own experiences. So actually our experiences matter less than yours.
 
I just saw your edit.

So you are saying that all of the gods that everyone ever worshiped are all one single god with an infinite number of personalities?

That’s interesting.
That’s what I think. 🙂
 
Ah. Personalities may not be the best word. Maybe “facets”? Would that be better?
Yes that is better. It is always better if you just change the words. Ask the pro-choice crowd.

How does changing your wording change your point?
 
That’s what I think. 🙂
That’s a very interesting position, and I think it has some merit.

However, I would counter that (that is to say, I do not think it is correct) based on the fact that I consider God to be living Truth. Our God is the height of truth, and his very being embodies all virtues.

Thus, I do not think that God would choose to “be” all other Gods in a different sense, because many Gods, notably the gods of cultures that practice child sacrifice and other abominations, are evil. For a benevolent, good God of perfect virtue to have a “facet” face of something that is completely contrary to Himself does not seem logical.

Do you see what I mean?
 
90% of disagreements can be resolved by clarifying vocabulary. 🙂
72.5% of statistics are made up.😃

Clarifying vocabulary might seem to resolve disagreements but rarely furthers understanding.
It does do well for backpedaling and confusion though.
 
That’s a very interesting position, and I think it has some merit.

However, I would counter that (that is to say, I do not think it is correct) based on the fact that I consider God to be living Truth. Our God is the height of truth, and his very being embodies all virtues.

Thus, I do not think that God would choose to “be” all other Gods in a different sense, because many Gods, notably the gods of cultures that practice child sacrifice and other abominations, are evil. For a benevolent, good God of perfect virtue to have a “facet” face of something that is completely contrary to Himself does not seem logical.

Do you see what I mean?
I do see what you mean.

I would point out that a typical human failing is to ascribe not just our virtues, but our vices to the Divine. It is no secret that the Old Testament is replete with such examples.

In my view, we shape our “god” to mirror ourselves.
 
I do see what you mean.

I would point out that a typical human failing is to ascribe not just our virtues, but our vices to the Divine. It is no secret that the Old Testament is replete with such examples.

In my view, we shape our “god” to mirror ourselves.
That last sentence is key.

So, you are essentially saying that many pagan gods are really produced via the imagination of humans. We “create” them “in our own image,” so to speak, so as to relate to them.

This suggests that many gods are not real at all, but just an invention of human imagination, does it not?
 
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