Do you Catholics believe in the rapture?

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Is Revelation the same as the rapture?
 
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No.

The Rapture as commonly understood is a 19th century tradition of men.

Catholics don’t “believe” in man-made fallible traditions.
 
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No.

The Rapture as commonly understood is a 19th century tradition of men.

Catholics don’t “believe” in man-made fallible traditions.
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Sorry to sidetrack the thread. But Ironically, the Catholic Church is continually accused of being full of man made traditions. Haha. You can ask 10 different Protestants ministers or theologians what the end times look like and get 10 different answers. Simple by product of private interpretation of scripture and lack of authority to establish doctrine.
 
To elaborate on Spyridon’s post, no, they are not the same.

The rapture is a belief that dates back roughly two-hundred years, and is based on misinterpretation of various scriptural passages. The most glaring of these issues, apart from suggesting that Christ will come a third time, is their interpretation of the phrase “taken up.”

Rapture-adherents believe that, prior to the second coming, the elect will be taken up to be with God. To support this, they reference the passage in Matthew 24:37:
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“But of that day and hour no one knows, neither the angels of heaven, nor the Son,* but the Father alone.
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For as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
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In [those] days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day that Noah entered the ark.
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They did not know until the flood came and carried them all away. So will it be [also] at the coming of the Son of Man.
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The problem with this is that, in Noah’s time, the people who were “taken up” are clearly the evil people who were wiped away by the floods. The surrounding passages in Matthew make this comparison explicitly clear.

There are other issues with the Rapture as a concept, but I find this to be the clearest indicator that it is false.
 
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Do you Catholics believe in the rapture?

Are you asking me personally? No, I don’t.
 
The Catholic Church has enjoyed two thousand years of some of the greatest intellects in Western civilisation, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, working out every possible question one could have about the faith, and the Rapture has never even come up. It is purely a Protestant invention, dating back no more than two hundred years, and God only knows what the men who invented it were trying to accomplish with this heresy. It has led many people astray and caused some otherwise devout souls to self-righteously declare that of course, they are part of the elect who will be ‘raptured’. I am very much afraid they have a cruel surprise in store for them, in more than one sense.
 
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In some languages, though not, I think, in English, one of the eucharistic prayers includes the words (spoken by the people), “Grant us the fellowship of the elect.” Nobody – not even a Calvinist – can possibly know in advance that they’re one of the elect, but naturally we all hope to be.
 
Why do Protestants think they are the true church and Catholics have Christianity wrong? Like we added more books, but Protestantism is the purest Christian faith.
 
Pure Christian faith? Protestants broke away from the Church Jesus founded.
 
I didn’t say I believed that. I know people think Protestant church contains the wholeness of the truth. It is the truth. That’s why I always find it uneasy for someone to boldly claim the truth. What is the truth? What if you are the one whose wrong? You cannot see that people who disagree with you are actually right, but instead you believe it is their pride that stops them from seeing the truth.
 
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Is Revelation the same as the rapture?
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Well, if by “rapture” you mean the dead will rise, and Christ will come in the clouds and judge the quick and the dead, sure.

If it means planes are gonna crash because all pilots are Christian, well, that’s another story.
 
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In some languages, though not, I think, in English, one of the eucharistic prayers includes the words (spoken by the people), “Grant us the fellowship of the elect.” Nobody – not even a Calvinist – can possibly know in advance that they’re one of the elect, but naturally we all hope to be.
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Indeed. Thanks, BartholomewB. 🙂
 
There have been many threads on the rapture. One is on the first page–scroll down to see it, then do a search.
 
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Why do Protestants think they are the true church and Catholics have Christianity wrong? Like we added more books, but Protestantism is the purest Christian faith.
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I think there are many reasons for this, some less strange than others. One of the most obvious, at least to me, has its source in the rather Puritanical attitude of the reformers. In trying to rid the Church of abuses, they tended to try too hard to ‘clean house’ by purifying her of what were seen as distractions from devotion, i.e. statues, incense, elaborate music, &c. In the process, they threw out the baby with the bath, and consequently have regarded anything over and above hard pews, long faces and the bare white walls of the meeting-house with suspicion ever since. It is a small step from such self-righteousness to a knee-jerk, automatic, unthinking equation of oneself with ‘the elect’ and Catholics with, at best, ignorant deluded souls and, at worst, with apostate servants of the Anti-Christ. Another reason which I have long suspected, and which is far more subtle and interesting from a psychological standpoint, is: It is just possible that many Protestants, especially those who have studied Church history in depth, actually do realise that the RCC is the true Church, but they have become so invested in their particular brand of Protestantism that they are either 1) afraid to speak out on the truth, or 2) are fearful of how their Protestant relatives and friends would treat them, or 3) they have prominent positions in their particular denomination, and do not wish to surrender the status and material rewards that come with such positions. I hate to attribute such crass and unreasonable motives to my non-Catholic brethren, but I have thought about this quite a bit since I converted to Catholicism twenty-two years ago, and I strongly feel they play a major part in much of the anti-Catholic rhetoric we encounter far too often.
 
A lot of Rapture questions today! 🙂

Long answer here. Short answer: no, Rapture and Revelation are not the same. To believe in the Rapture is also to believe in the framework of dispensations in which a Rapture makes sense. There are many terrible and specific events proposed to happen after said Rapture. Without them, there’s nothing from which to be rescued.
 
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It is just possible that many Protestants, especially those who have studied Church history in depth, actually do realise that the RCC is the true Church, but they have become so invested in their particular brand of Protestantism that they are either 1) afraid to speak out on the truth, or 2) are fearful of how their Protestant relatives and friends would treat them, or 3) they have prominent positions in their particular denomination, and do not wish to surrender the status and material rewards that come with such positions.
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I don’t buy this argument. Anyone who has studied Church history in depth is obviously passionate about Christianity and will know their everlasting soul is all that matters, regardless of what others think or what status or rewards they have to give up.
 
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