Do you consider this a "proof" text against Mary's sinlessness

[mgrfin]

I believe this comment is intended to support the lack of Scriptural evidence for Mary’s perpetual sinlessness.

This raises an interesting question, but first name one thing Tradition teaches Christ said or did, that is not recorded in Scripture.

Ginger,

There is great Scriptural evidence for the sinlessness of Mary. It is all over St. Luke’s Gospel.

We have to pray for you to receive the Holy Spirit that you may see it.

The evidence for the sinlessness of Mary is far greater than Luther’s defense of Justification by Faith Only, but that is another topic.

I don’t know what this campaign is all about attacking Mary the Mother of God. All the angels in heaven must be shuttering at your venom against the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Attacking the Virgin Mary is the work of the devil. “I will put enmities between thee and the Woman…”

You have a great day, Ginger.

Peace

 

[Ginger2]

There is no Scriptural evidence to prove that Mary sin. In fact, can you show me in Scripture where Mary actually committed actual sin, or personal sin?

I don’t think Mary sinned, but I am making a point that nothing of necessity is left out of Scriptures.

So what if we find an ancient book that tells about Jesus and how he heeled 500 more lepers than are written about in the Bible. Does that change anything. Does that make Jesus any greater?

There is no evidence to prove this point one way or another. As a matter-of-fact, there is very little info on Mary to begin with.

 

[Ginger2]

Sure, Ginger, that is easy, although I think your question is off-thread.

John 21: 25: “But there is also many other things which Jesus did; which,l if they were written every one, the world itself, I think would not be able to contain the books that should be written.”

This is in Scripture itself. It is greater in weight than naming anything that is in Tradition that is not in Scripture. As I pointed out you misunderstand Tradition, and you don’t believe what the Church teaches in its Unwritten Revealed Word of God, as well as things that are explicitly stated in Scripture itself. But that is another topic.

You have a great day!

Peace

You need to go back and see where this originated. You have missed the point.

 

[mgrfin]

You need to go back and see where this originated. You have missed the point.

Ginger,

I haven’t missed anything. Your aim is to prove that there is nothing in the Magisterium that is not in Scripture.

Pure nonesense. The Magisterium and Scripture are two sides of the same coin, that is, Divine Revelation.

That is why I pointed out to you :

1. you go off topic to ‘make’ this point
2. Even if it is in Scripture, you still don’t believe what the Catholic Church teaches, e.g. Mary, the Eucharist, Grace, Sacraments, and on and on.
3. Tradition is the Unwritten Word of God. The existence of Tradition is provable from what St. John said in the last verse of his Gospel. The Sinlessness of Mary is included in the Unwritten Word of God, as well as the Written Word of God.

The Holy Spirit continues to guide the Church infallibly through the ages. There is no other christian community that dares to make that claim. God is true to his Word, and would not leave his Church without the Spirit of Truth.

Both Scripture and Tradition support the Sinlessness of Mary.

You have a great day!

peace

 

[Michael_Francis]

Thread closed pending moderator review.
MF

 

[Rachel_Malloy]

This thread will remain closed due to it being off track.

Thanks for your participation, Merry Christmas and God bless.

Rachel