Do you fear death?

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tonyrey said:
👍 Irrefutable! The faith of the atheist is based on sheer negativity…
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What “faith”? This is an non suitable word, so you have a double faith one for believing in your god and another one for not believing in other gods? Do you have faith for believing in your religious stories and another faith for not believing in other religions stories, there is no “faith” in a disbelief. You are only practicing an irritating non logical approach and not a fruitful or rational one.

My view doesn’t represent most or all atheists, and even if there is any god, this won’t change my opinion about it, many believers desire dying to go to Heaven, what difference does it make this desire from the desire of going back to non existence, to the same state of what you were before being born? In both cases you are escaping from the ability to suffer.
I don’t believe in Heaven or In Hell or in Lalaland or in reincarnation, or in any life after we DIE, when we die we just DIE, that is all, how does this make me a believer? That’s the basic thing to accept as reality and fact without all the made up stories or beliefs that contain no evidence.
 
What difference there is between negativity and reality? When often “negativity” is a description of reality. How can you for example find positivity in a dying hungry child? to teach you a lesson? I don’t think anyone’s growing on personal level is worthy the child’s suffering.
 
ANV said:
Why would you think you’re probably going Hell, hopefully things go better with your struggles, it’s definitely better for everyone to never have been.
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Thank you. I would think I’m going to hell because I commit sins that I don’t confess and then miss mass and communion. If I were to die in this condition, I think my damnation would be almost certain. This sort of thing happens so often to me that I am reconciled to the idea of going to hell.
 
Samwise21 said:
Aside from the suicidal or the nihilistic, who in their right mind would actually desire non existence
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Those who think they are bound for hell. Non-existence is better than an eternity in hell. Think about it, until you were born, or at least until not very many weeks or months before that time, you didn’t exist, and yet you probably aren’t particularly upset by that fact.
 
ANV said:
What “faith”? This is an non suitable word, so you have a double faith one for believing in your god and another one for not believing in other gods? Do you have faith for believing in your religious stories and another faith for not believing in other religions stories, there is no “faith” in a disbelief. You are only practicing an irritating non logical approach and not a fruitful or rational one…
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Your extremely dogmatic reply reveals that you have “complete trust and confidence” in your interpretation of reality which is supposedly “logical” even though our primary datum and sole certainty is our mental activity. We** infer **the existence of persons and things from our perceptions.

NB Logic is discovered by thought not biochemical activity.
 
ANV said:
What difference there is between negativity and reality? When often “negativity” is a description of reality. How can you for example find positivity in a dying hungry child? to teach you a lesson? I don’t think anyone’s growing on personal level is worthy the child’s suffering.
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In other words you agree with Schopenhauer that it would be better if life had never existed on this planet?
 
No, I am not afraid of death. Actually, I’m looking forward to it.
 
Lost_Sheep said:
No, I am not afraid of death.** Actually, I’m looking forward to it.**
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In some respects, so am I. Don’t get me wrong; I have a good life, but there are some aspects of it that I’m tired of.
 
DaveBj said:
In some respects, so am I. Don’t get me wrong; I have a good life, but there are some aspects of it that I’m tired of.
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No, I hate my life and everything about it. I simply want out.
 
GEddie said:
But being bodily alive is awesome 🙂

ICXC NIKA
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Glad you feel that way. But for many who suffer in chronic physical or mental distress they don’t feel the same way for they battle with their illnesses 24/7. I’m sure they wish they did but that isn’t their reality.

As a nurse it was not uncommon to hear people in those situations note at some point they were “tired of fighting” and they would welcome death at some point of debilitating illness.

Not that we are to take our own lives of course, but there are people that struggle.

Mary.
 
MaryT777 said:
Glad you feel that way. But for many who suffer in chronic physical or mental distress they don’t feel the same way for they battle with their illnesses 24/7. I’m sure they wish they did but that isn’t their reality.

As a nurse it was not uncommon to hear people in those situations note at some point they were “tired of fighting” and they would welcome death at some point of debilitating illness.

Not that we are to take our own lives of course, but there are people that struggle.

Mary.
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And yet there are people in severe situations of suffering or disability who still love life. And many who claim to be ready to “welcome death” aren’t bodily broken at all.

ICXC NIKA
 
GEddie said:
And yet there are people in severe situations of suffering or disability who still love life. And many who claim to be ready to “welcome death” aren’t bodily broken at all.

ICXC NIKA
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Yes there are.
 
Death is the gateway to everlasting love, and death is the gateway to reality!

“Why should I be afraid of dying, there’s no reason for it.”
 
MaryT777 said:
Glad you feel that way. But for many who suffer in chronic physical or mental distress they don’t feel the same way for they battle with their illnesses 24/7. I’m sure they wish they did but that isn’t their reality.

As a nurse it was not uncommon to hear people in those situations note at some point they were “tired of fighting” and they would welcome death at some point of debilitating illness.
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^^^^This
Not that we are to take our own lives of course, but there are people that struggle.
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It makes no difference. When you know you are going to Hell when you die anyway, it makes no difference if you take your own life or not. That sin becomes moot.
 
Lost_Sheep said:
It makes no difference. When you know you are going to Hell when you die anyway, it makes no difference if you take your own life or not. That sin becomes moot.
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How can anyone possibly** know** that for certain?
 
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