Do you feel that the US should make it easier for Mexican citizens to work in US?

[seabird3579]

gilliam:

Many (most) field hands in CA are supplied housing by the farms they work on.

I think I would find a better source than CNN for your information on how many Mexicans immigrate each year.

Yes, I’ve seen the “housing” they are supplied, it is not much better than their wages.

 

[gilliam]

seabird3579:

Yes, I’ve seen the “housing” they are supplied, it is not much better than their wages.

Yep. No arguement there. But it is a lot cheaper than renting a house in town and commuting.

 

[harinkj]

vern humphrey:

We gain from the labor of illegal immigrants. We ought, in all fairness, make it possible for them to enter legally.

The present situation contributes to exploitation of the illegals, facilitates drug smuggling, and may offer a route for terrorists to attack this country.

You’re right the present situation of letting them in contributes to exploitation of the low wage workers. High levels of immigration, legal and illegal, drive down wages.

• Kathie :bowdown:

 

[seabird3579]

I think maybe a different question should be asked on a Christian forum. It is not so much the issue of the U.S. making it easier or not, the question is what, as a Christian nation should our policies be and how should they be enforced?

Right now, employers are flagrantly breaking our labor laws and no one in Congress is holding them accountable. Far worse, the President in as much, is encouraging them to by not calling for enforcement.

Once the laws on the books are enforced, then will be the time to make it “easier” to come to the U.S.

Criminal corporations are hiring illegals so that they don’t have to pay the required wages – something U.S. citizens need to survive daily life in the U.S. Congress is not requiring them to do so – why do we have a law?

Labor laws are meant to protect citizens from abuse. In the early 1900s companies greatly abused young children and adult workers with long hours, low pay and no medical benefits even if you were hurt or disabled on the job.

As a country we found that unacceptable and went to work for 30 years setting up laws to protect human beings from such abuse.

Today these laws are readily scrapped in the name of “economic efficiency.” I’m sure it was much more economically efficient for companies in the early 1900s to not have labor laws, but we as a nation said, “No.”

Now, we’ve let those laws slide and we are back to an abuse problem all over again.

Companies will find a way to pay just wages and keep the current laws when they are enforced – as long as they are not – it is not economically feasible…

 

[cougarfan]

jman507:

It seems to have only gotten worse, the thing is right now with the border as it is, if we grant amnesty, whats it going to look like in the next twenty years? Are we going to have four times as many as 12 million? If so how many cities would be crippled by taking in 48 million immagrants?

If this had been asked 20 years ago, the same fears and concerns would have been raised. Perhaps the fears that existed then, conntinually reappear and life isnt really that bad. WHo is to say the economy isnt going to be stronger? The buying power illegal immigrants bring into the USA is extraordinary!

 

[cougarfan]

This has not been my experience. I speak Spanish (not well but better than their English) and have met more people who have been here for years who do not speak English well enough to go to a job interview in English than not.

Wow, could this be that they just arrived or are trying to become acclamated to a system that probably sees them as a problem? There are many reasons why you experienced what I didnt. Where I live, a good portion of those who have been here 5+ years know English fairly well. Lets agree to disagree … being that the geographical area may have something to do with it.

Those who do know some English know only enough to do their work, and not enough to say, listen to the radio in English or read the paper in English. They are thus captive to Spanish sources of information which are very slanted. Even the students don’t know Engish well enough to do their schoolwork well.

I work in education and to read this makes me laugh. You think that students dont pick up on the English language as well? There are many TITLE I funds out there, along with other programs to help bridge language barriers. I dont mean to offend you but it makes me question how much you really understand this issue. Students, many after two years, are doing as well on state assessment testing vs their “American” peers. We have proof of that in some of our school districts in the state of Washington.

In the first demonstations they were waving Mexican flags and threatening people who had US flags. They saw that was a bad PR move, so they have changed that.

The 500K march I saw from LA was actually a slew of flags from all countries … a good portion from Mexico and the USA. In New York, same thing. About 12 different countries represented (possibly more) and many American flags. That hardly says they were asked to change this as those demonstrations were the first of their kind. People have a right to demonstrate their pride in their country but also show that they love the USA. The small % of so called “bashers” were probably misinformed or troubled humans who exist in every facet of culture. They represent the bad of human side and they shouldnt account for the majority.

 

[prv]

I do not agree with the wording of this poll. I think the United States should make it easier for all immigrants to work in the United States, not just Mexicans. I think the U.S. should make laws in regard to immigration only insomuch as they are necessary to protect from terrorists and other dangerous criminals. This recognizes the right of the U.S. to true security, NOT the right of it to impose arbitrary laws.

 

[Fremont]

Legal immigrants from Mexico, fine.

Illegal immigrants - NO.