Do you find Catholics too..judgmental?

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Or Christians in general?

My non Christian friends were talking about Christians and they came to this conclusion. Sadly, I could see this too. I have mentioned before that the most unkind people I have met were Catholics and whilst I know that the religion does not make terrible people, I realised that we don’t really look like a friendly bunch of people 😦

Seen these people in CAF, in church, in school, on social media (especially social media!).
Could just be my experience.

Don’t really know the point of this post…maybe to remind ourselves to be a nice person, maybe stop thinking that we are better mothers/fathers/sisters/sons/Catholics. I know I fall into the trap sometimes…

Just midnight ramblings from my bedroom…probably won’t remember me typing this. Goodnight x
 
Lea101 said:
Or Christians in general?

My non Christian friends were talking about Christians and they came to this conclusion. Sadly, I could see this too. I have mentioned before that the most unkind people I have met were Catholics and whilst I know that the religion does not make terrible people, I realised that we don’t really look like a friendly bunch of people 😦

Seen these people in CAF, in church, in school, on social media (especially social media!).
Could just be my experience.

Don’t really know the point of this post…maybe to remind ourselves to be a nice person, maybe stop thinking that we are better mothers/fathers/sisters/sons/Catholics. I know I fall into the trap sometimes…

Just midnight ramblings from my bedroom…probably won’t remember me typing this. Goodnight x
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It surely depends, Why would anyone know who was Catholic unless they eg challenged them?then reacted to what they replied as unkind? I mean to some folk anything about living a Christian life sounds “unkind”
Internet talk is dangerous in that we cannot see or hear the person so it is easy to be less than friendly and they cannot see us smile as we say something… so limited

With which sage comment I will extricate myself from the cat . close my chromebook and go and feed"everyone. " Hope you slept well and handing over to the next shift!!!
 
It is a sad thing whenever any Christians, Catholic or otherwise, are unkind.

But you speak of “non-Christians” making this … judgement.

Yes, “Christians are unkind” is a judgement too.

And we all make judgements every day of our lives about human behaviour.

The thing is Catholics are called to judge as wrong many things that “non-Christians” - especially of the secular sort - don’t see as wrong.

We are called to judge abortion, euthanasia, gay “marriage” etc etc as morally wrong.

That does not make us popular with non-Christians who frequently judge us as intolerant or unkind.

The trick is to judge the acts - e.g. abortion and not the individual soul of any person involved. Only God is fit to judge the souls of people.
 
Lea101 said:
Or Christians in general?

My non Christian friends were talking about Christians and they came to this conclusion. Sadly, I could see this too. I have mentioned before that the most unkind people I have met were Catholics and whilst I know that the religion does not make terrible people, I realised that we don’t really look like a friendly bunch of people 😦

Seen these people in CAF, in church, in school, on social media (especially social media!).
Could just be my experience.

Don’t really know the point of this post…maybe to remind ourselves to be a nice person, maybe stop thinking that we are better mothers/fathers/sisters/sons/Catholics. I know I fall into the trap sometimes…

Just midnight ramblings from my bedroom…probably won’t remember me typing this. Goodnight x
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Non-religious people have very few things on their list that they believe to be “wrong”-- maybe murder, rape, arson, and a few other things. In contrast, Christians are to live according to God’s word and God’s commandments and evangelize the whole world.

People who don’t want to hear that abortion, same sex marriage, contraception, cohabitation, pornography, and a ton of other things are wrong attempt to shut people up by calling them “judgmental” or “bigoted” or “homophobic” or a host of other names (who is the one actually being judgmental???) Hmmmm… irony.

Because there is absolute truth against which we measure “right” and “wrong” we automatically become “judgmental” in the eyes of those who believe everyone has their own truth and everyone decides for themselves what is OK. This is called moral relativism and it is THE greatest heresy of our age.

The word “judgmental” has come to mean “has an opinion”. So, yeah, guilty as charged. But, what the BIBLE means when it says not to judge is not to judge the HEART. The Bible certainly does address fraternal correction-- which is observing someone’s actions and informing them that what they are doing is against God’s law. NOT at all judgmental-- that is actually a spiritual work of mercy.
 
I think it depends… I think sometimes we are judgemental. Especially online at times. But other times, people think we are judgemental simply because we believe in an objective truth and morality… That is not being judgemental, but our relativist culture can see it that way. Of course we should not accept sin just to be thought of as less judgemental.

However if we are ever unkind to people, of course that is a problem, one that I have been guilty of myself
 
I find quite a few people to be too judgmental. Not exactly Catholics in particular.
 
1ke said:
Non-religious people have very few things on their list that they believe to be “wrong”-- maybe murder, rape, arson, and a few other things. In contrast, Christians are to live according to God’s word and God’s commandments and evangelize the whole world.

People who don’t want to hear that abortion, same sex marriage, contraception, cohabitation, pornography, and a ton of other things are wrong attempt to shut people up by calling them “judgmental” or “bigoted” or “homophobic” or a host of other names (who is the one actually being judgmental???) Hmmmm… irony.

Because there is absolute truth against which we measure “right” and “wrong” we automatically become “judgmental” in the eyes of those who believe everyone has their own truth and everyone decides for themselves what is OK. This is called moral relativism and it is THE greatest heresy of our age.

The word “judgmental” has come to mean “has an opinion”. So, yeah, guilty as charged. But, what the BIBLE means when it says not to judge is not to judge the HEART. The Bible certainly does address fraternal correction-- which is observing someone’s actions and informing them that what they are doing is against God’s law. NOT at all judgmental-- that is actually a spiritual work of mercy.
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This^^. It’s not politically correct to disagree with anyone anymore. Unless of course, you disagree with Catholics and Christians. Then it’s open season. 😉
Seriously though, there is very little that strike the modern world as taboo. Those who stand up for morality are often in the minority. Don’t let it trouble you. The only opinion that counts is the Lord’s.
 
I find people in general too judgmental. Myself especially. Not catholic nor Christian, still judgmental. Peace.
 
pianistclare said:
This^^. It’s not politically correct to disagree with anyone anymore. Unless of course, you disagree with Catholics and Christians. Then it’s open season. 😉
Seriously though, there is very little that strike the modern world as taboo. Those who stand up for morality are often in the minority. Don’t let it trouble you. The only opinion that counts is the Lord’s.
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This is true.

Reading your post reminded me of when I was younger, and when I tried to do what was right when faced with a moral decision.

I would be called a “goody two shoes,” by those who thought I was being self-righteous, or “square.” I wasn’t trying to do any of those things. I was just trying to do what was right in a given situation.
 
pianistclare said:
This^^. It’s not politically correct to disagree with anyone anymore. Unless of course, you disagree with Catholics and Christians. Then it’s open season. 😉
Seriously though, there is very little that strike the modern world as taboo. Those who stand up for morality are often in the minority. Don’t let it trouble you. The only opinion that counts is the Lord’s.
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+1

Heck, even using the word “morality” will get you the death stare nowadays. Society is beyond the point where people disagree about which moral standard is correct. It doesn’t even (openly) acknowledge such a thing’s existence.
 
As a convert to Catholocism as of Easter 2015, my personal observation has been that Catholics are less judgmental (in general) than protestant Christians. The virtue of Charity seems to be taken a bit more seriously and I think we are more prone to admitting we all sin- perhaps due to our weekly recitation of the Confiteor. One area I’ve seen a major difference in, for example, is the differing attitudes on homosexuality. I’ve had discussions with multiple protestants that seem to think homosexuality is a special kind of horrible sin, while simultaneously ignoring fornication, masturbation, adultery, and divorce. A gay person is at risk of being booted out of their congregation, while any of those other sins are virtually ignored. In Catholicism, SSA is treated as disordered, and sexual sins are treated the same- all are mortal sins, all need to be confessed.
 
Usually, when folks who say “Catholics are too judgmental” are really saying “Catholics have some standards.” Who are these mythical Catholics that people refer to?

I’d need examples. The Catholics I know are no more judgmental than any other arbitrary group of people.

Besides, this presumes they are being judgmental on the basis of religious values they hold dear and espouse. Statistically, that is highly unlikely, given that 25% attend mass weekly, fewer believe in transubstantiation, and as such, just as few have any loyalty or fervency for the teachings of the Church to begin with.

As such Lea, anecdotally, this likely isn’t true, and statistically, this likely isn’t true.
 
1ke said:
Non-religious people have very few things on their list that they believe to be “wrong”-- maybe murder, rape, arson, and a few other things. In contrast, Christians are to live according to God’s word and God’s commandments and evangelize the whole world.

People who don’t want to hear that abortion, same sex marriage, contraception, cohabitation, pornography, and a ton of other things are wrong attempt to shut people up by calling them “judgmental” or “bigoted” or “homophobic” or a host of other names (who is the one actually being judgmental???) Hmmmm… irony.

Because there is absolute truth against which we measure “right” and “wrong” we automatically become “judgmental” in the eyes of those who believe everyone has their own truth and everyone decides for themselves what is OK. This is called moral relativism and it is THE greatest heresy of our age.

The word “judgmental” has come to mean “has an opinion”. So, yeah, guilty as charged. But, what the BIBLE means when it says not to judge is not to judge the HEART. The Bible certainly does address fraternal correction-- which is observing someone’s actions and informing them that what they are doing is against God’s law. NOT at all judgmental-- that is actually a spiritual work of mercy.
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👍

This sums it up about as well as you can.
 
Lea101 said:
Or Christians in general?

My non Christian friends were talking about Christians and they came to this conclusion. Sadly, I could see this too. I have mentioned before that the most unkind people I have met were Catholics and whilst I know that the religion does not make terrible people, I realised that we don’t really look like a friendly bunch of people 😦

Seen these people in CAF, in church, in school, on social media (especially social media!).
Could just be my experience.

Don’t really know the point of this post…maybe to remind ourselves to be a nice person, maybe stop thinking that we are better mothers/fathers/sisters/sons/Catholics. I know I fall into the trap sometimes…

Just midnight ramblings from my bedroom…probably won’t remember me typing this. Goodnight x
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The fundamentalists always stand out against the myriad of more mellow people 🙂

And with atheists you get it too. Some radical atheists are extremely judgemental of theists or anyone that holds a belief that they think is related to religion, such as being pro-life, even though there are pro-life atheist groups too.
 
Lea101 said:
Or Christians in general?

My non Christian friends were talking about Christians and they came to this conclusion. Sadly, I could see this too. I have mentioned before that the most unkind people I have met were Catholics and whilst I know that the religion does not make terrible people, I realised that we don’t really look like a friendly bunch of people 😦

Seen these people in CAF, in church, in school, on social media (especially social media!).
Could just be my experience.

Don’t really know the point of this post…maybe to remind ourselves to be a nice person, maybe stop thinking that we are better mothers/fathers/sisters/sons/Catholics. I know I fall into the trap sometimes…

Just midnight ramblings from my bedroom…probably won’t remember me typing this. Goodnight x
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Absolutely! In the real world not quite as bad as these boards though ( the anonymity of the internet brings out people’s true opinions.)
 
These days, anybody who won’t say, “Whatever you want to do is just fine,” risks being labeled ‘Judgemental.’
 
Head into your average modesty discussion online and you’ll find plenty of judgmental people around. And I’m talking about Christian forums where everyone recognizes modesty as a virtue, and not secular forums.
 
I actually find society in general more judgmental than Catholics as a whole. Because any time someone expresses and unpopular opinion in accordance with god’s laws, the ax falls. The so called “tolerance” does not exist when one expresses an unpopular religious view, such as same-sex marriage being wrong, or fornication being wrong, etc. Then these “tolerant” people actually judge the person themselves, instead of an action, which we do have the right to judge as morally right or wrong. It is pure hypocrisy. I am perfectly within my rights to judge an action, such as murder or stealing, or sexual sins as being wrong, I am not within my rights to judge the person as if I were God. That is a difference that many people do not understand.

However, there are Christians ff many denominations who do not understand this either, and I have some awfully judgmental things, consigning people to hell, etc. We have to be careful in what we say and how we say it.
 
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