Do you have to be Catholic to receive Confession?

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Question to all: Do you have to be Catholic to receive Confession by a Catholic priest?

If that is the case then should that be the case?

If someone is baptised and is contrite should he/she be turned away or accepted? I am not talking about receiving counselling here. I am talking about the sacrament.

Anyway please provide you thoughts and your knowledge to me for this is something that I have been thinking about lately and do not trully have a good answer.
 
I am sorry I don’t have that answer, but I am anxious to see what the others who know so much more than I do have to say. God Bless from a fellow Louisianian.
 
Question to all: Do you have to be Catholic to receive Confession by a Catholic priest?

If that is the case then should that be the case?

If someone is baptised and is contrite should he/she be turned away or accepted? I am not talking about receiving counselling here. I am talking about the sacrament.

Anyway please provide you thoughts and your knowledge to me for this is something that I have been thinking about lately and do not trully have a good answer.
Since Reconcilliation is a Sacrament of the Catholic Church, you must be in full communion with the church to receive it. Since Christ instituted all seven Sacraments, they are in effect, a package deal. Refusing, or simply not embracing one of the Sacraments can be construed as a rejection of all. He gave us all seven for a reason, and we cannot pick and choose. It is part of our obedience to Him and His church. That is my understanding, and out of a sense of obedience, I cling to it.
 
Question to all: Do you have to be Catholic to receive Confession by a Catholic priest?

If that is the case then should that be the case?

If someone is baptised and is contrite should he/she be turned away or accepted? I am not talking about receiving counselling here. I am talking about the sacrament.

Anyway please provide you thoughts and your knowledge to me for this is something that I have been thinking about lately and do not trully have a good answer.
Sacraments (and Confession is a Sacrament) can only be received by Catholics.
 
Well, a priest is not going to turn away anyone who wants to confess something, he is not going to ask for “proof” of being Catholic (the usual assumption is the person is Catholic, but not always). He will still listen and forgive the sins through the usual motions. It is then up to God and the person on what happens next with an issue like this. I would expect an improvement in their state of being, and the rest is left to the theologians on what is formally defined.
 
Well, a priest is not going to turn away anyone who wants to confess something, he is not going to ask for “proof” of being Catholic (the usual assumption is the person is Catholic, but not always). He will still listen and forgive the sins through the usual motions. It is then up to God and the person on what happens next with an issue like this. I would expect an improvement in their state of being, and the rest is left to the theologians on what is formally defined.
NewULM, that still does not take away from the fact that one must be in communion with Rome in order to receive Holy Communion. You must be a Catholic and in the state of grace (without mortal sin) in order to receive Holy Communion.

The Church does not have such a thing as “open communion” precisely because Holy Communion is reserved only for practicing Catholics. While it is regrettable that the other ecclesial communities (Protestant) cannot receive Holy Communion it is because unity does not exist with these groups.

Please get your theology correct, lest you be leading people down the wrong path. By the way, after all of those shots, you have yet to have a duck fall out of the sky.
 
NewULM, that still does not take away from the fact that one must be in communion with Rome in order to receive Holy Communion. You must be a Catholic and in the state of grace (without mortal sin) in order to receive Holy Communion.

The Church does not have such a thing as “open communion” precisely because Holy Communion is reserved only for practicing Catholics. While it is regrettable that the other ecclesial communities (Protestant) cannot receive Holy Communion it is because unity does not exist with these groups.

Please get your theology correct, lest you be leading people down the wrong path. By the way, after all of those shots, you have yet to have a duck fall out of the sky.
First of all this discussion is about Confession not Communion. There is no “Catholic proof” needed at communion when you go up. Yet non-Catholics have received communion before and it will happen again. What actually happened? We can theorize but never really truly know. Even Fr Grochel in his 5th Luminous Mystery talk says all the mechanisms of the Eucharist even today are not known. That in the end is between the person and God as to what actually happened spiritually or not.

The same goes with Confession. There is theory but we never truly know that actually happens when a non-Catholic goes for confession. In the end the level of grace (if any) cannot truly be known. Officially the rules say no, but I am sure it has happened before and will happen again (sometimes this happens in times of widespread great distress where lines blur even more).
 
Look, I know and understand that the Sacraments of Eucharist; Holy Orders; and Confirmation can only be received by a Catholic in good standing for these are Sacraments of the Community after Baptism.

But Baptism does not require you being Catholic; One does not have to be Catholic to receive the Sacrament of Marriage as long as the other partner is Catholic.

My question about Confession is due to the scriptural fact that Jesus and the Apostles forgave sinners even if they were not necessarily their followers. Jesus forgave the sins of anyone who came to him with a humble and contrite heart. Most of these were Jews and it cannot be said that all of them became followers of Christ and his Apostles afterwards, yet He still forgave them their sins. He didn’t say if you follow Me your sins are forgiven nor did He say that you have to become on of My followers for Me to forgive your sins. He just forgave them.

I hope you can see my quaundry on this subject. Also I really haven’t found good sources that say you have to be Catholic to receive the sacrament of confession.

Quite honestly these above arguments can apply to the Sacrament of the Sick as well.

I am not trying to defend a position here just expressing the arguments for that keep popping up and not many arguments against.
 
Look, I know and understand that the Sacraments of Eucharist; Holy Orders; and Confirmation can only be received by a Catholic in good standing for these are Sacraments of the Community after Baptism.

But Baptism does not require you being Catholic; One does not have to be Catholic to receive the Sacrament of Marriage as long as the other partner is Catholic.

My question about Confession is due to the scriptural fact that Jesus and the Apostles forgave sinners even if they were not necessarily their followers. Jesus forgave the sins of anyone who came to him with a humble and contrite heart. Most of these were Jews and it cannot be said that all of them became followers of Christ and his Apostles afterwards, yet He still forgave them their sins. He didn’t say if you follow Me your sins are forgiven nor did He say that you have to become on of My followers for Me to forgive your sins. He just forgave them.

I hope you can see my quaundry on this subject. Also I really haven’t found good sources that say you have to be Catholic to receive the sacrament of confession.

Quite honestly these above arguments can apply to the Sacrament of the Sick as well.

I am not trying to defend a position here just expressing the arguments for that keep popping up and not many arguments against.
We become members of the Catholic Church through the Sacrament of Baptism. There are three sacraments of initiation that the Church has: Baptism, Eucharist and Confirmation. However, in order to receive Eucharist, you need to be free from mortal sin, that is why we have Confession. Baptism takes away the stain of original sin, but, because it is human nature to sin, we need the sacrament of Confession.

It would be difficult for a non-Catholic to go to confession if that person doesn’t quite understand what it’s all about. It’s not just about unloading your sins and leaving. You also need to have contrition and fulfill your penance.

If the person is interested in the Catholic faith, then why not lead that person to a solid and theologically ground RCIA program that will help him or her along their faith journey. Wanting to go to confession is a first-step, but you need to be Catholic in order to have access to the sacraments.
 
We become members of the Catholic Church through the Sacrament of Baptism. There are three sacraments of initiation that the Church has: Baptism, Eucharist and Confirmation. However, in order to receive Eucharist, you need to be free from mortal sin, that is why we have Confession. Baptism takes away the stain of original sin, but, because it is human nature to sin, we need the sacrament of Confession.

It would be difficult for a non-Catholic to go to confession if that person doesn’t quite understand what it’s all about. It’s not just about unloading your sins and leaving. You also need to have contrition and fulfill your penance.

If the person is interested in the Catholic faith, then why not lead that person to a solid and theologically ground RCIA program that will help him or her along their faith journey. Wanting to go to confession is a first-step, but you need to be Catholic in order to have access to the sacraments.
By it’s very nature you cannot be Catholic to receive Baptism. Also Catholics are not the only people that can have a true humble and contrite heart that is receptive to Confession. If you study Confession that is the “matter” of the sacrament. From what I have studied that is the only requirement for a good confession from the penitent. A humble and contrite heart.

So the question is if a Baptist who has been baptised with the proper formula comes to a Catholic priest and wishes to confess his/her sins to him, should he turn them away or should he give that person the sacrament?

Like I said Jesus nor his disciples ever & I mean never turned anyone away from forgiveness. Should our priest do what Jesus did or not?
 
Like I said Jesus nor his disciples ever & I mean never turned anyone away from forgiveness. Should our priest do what Jesus did or not?
Every priest I have met would not turn them away to let them bare their soul. That is an aspect of human compassion. The person will probably leave feeling better. What that would formally be called in this case is up to the theologians and I expect many diverse opinions.
 
By it’s very nature you cannot be Catholic to receive Baptism. Also Catholics are not the only people that can have a true humble and contrite heart that is receptive to Confession. If you study Confession that is the “matter” of the sacrament. From what I have studied that is the only requirement for a good confession from the penitent. A humble and contrite heart.

So the question is if a Baptist who has been baptised with the proper formula comes to a Catholic priest and wishes to confess his/her sins to him, should he turn them away or should he give that person the sacrament?

Like I said Jesus nor his disciples ever & I mean never turned anyone away from forgiveness. Should our priest do what Jesus did or not?
You become a Catholic after Baptism, or, in the case of RCIA (if you’ve already been baptized in a Protestant ecclesial community) after you’ve completed the sacraments of initiation. I didn’t become Catholic until after I was baptized as an infant (cradle Catholic).

A Baptist who has been baptized under the proper formula still can’t receive Catholic sacraments because that person has not been through the rest of the initiation process.

Now, you cited an interesting example of the couple getting married in the Catholic Church even though one of the party is not Catholic. They are receiving the sacrament by virtue of the Catholic party, but, they cannot receive Holy Communion nor the other sacraments until they convert to Catholicism.
 
From the Catechism of the Catholic Church: 1496 The spiritual effects of the sacrament of Penance are:
  • reconciliation with God by which the penitent recovers grace;
  • reconciliation with the Church;
  • remission of the eternal punishment incurred by mortal sins;
  • remission, at least in part, of temporal punishments resulting from sin;
  • peace and serenity of conscience, and spiritual consolation;
  • an increase of spiritual strength for the Christian battle.
Note that it says, Reconciliation with the Church.

That to me says that one should ‘normally’ be a Catholic, no?

ER, the way you make your argument is very reminiscent of those who complain about the Church’s “closed” stance on communion.

It is NOT a question of how ‘we’ feel. It is a question of what GOD has said. God gave us His Son and His Son gave us His Church.

So WHO the CHURCH says is capable of receiving confession is who GOD says is thus capable. I am finding that NORMALLY a condition for reception of this as well as ALL the other sacraments (and Baptism despite your contention is included because, while the infant is not ‘baptized Catholic’ before the ceremony, the parents are Catholic, their intention is to raise the child Catholic–and for those over the age of reason, THEY THEMSELVES must PROFESS the Faith before being baptized so they have accepted Catholicism and are then ‘sealed’ by baptism) is that the person be Catholic.

Unfortunately, too many people are constantly looking for ‘loopholes’. Because a non Catholic Christian person may fully intend, say, to become Catholic, but becomes dangerously ill, the Church ‘may’ permit him or her to confess, provided he or she is fully ‘catholic’ in belief already and (should he/she recover) would make the necessary preparations to become Catholic–suddenly people want to ‘confess’ just because THEY WANT IT.

Never mind that they have no intention of abiding by Church Teachings. No, the mere ‘fact’ that they ‘want’ to confess should somehow MAKE the Church ‘give them’ what they ‘want’ because that is what ‘Jesus did’.

Except. . .He didn’t.

What Jesus did, when he died, rose, and ascended, was to pass on His ‘authority’ to the Church.

Those people whom Jesus forgave ACCEPTED HIS AUTHORITY TO FORGIVE THEM. That is why He DID forgive them. He made the point that He had AUTHORITY TO FORGIVE sins. And those people like the Pharisees who rejected that authority WERE NOT FORGIVEN–not because Jesus ‘would not’ but because THEY ‘would not’.

But the people you are speaking of do NOT ACCEPT His authority, His Church. . .and so He ‘cannot’ forgive them UNTIL they do accept that authority. Not because HE does not choose but because THEY do not choose.

If they are feeling the true stirrings of a desire to conform to Catholic confession, they need to go ALL THE WAY to full union with the Catholic faith.

They are not to pick and choose what ‘they want’ and demand it of us, using Christ as a hostage to ‘good feelings’.

Christ is not divided against Himself.

 
Well, a priest is not going to turn away anyone who wants to confess something, he is not going to ask for “proof” of being Catholic (the usual assumption is the person is Catholic, but not always). He will still listen and forgive the sins through the usual motions. **It is then up to God and the person on what happens next with an issue like this. ** I would expect an improvement in their state of being, and the rest is left to the theologians on what is formally defined.
That’s simply not true. There would be no absolution of sin and that’s that.
 
First of all this discussion is about Confession not Communion. There is no “Catholic proof” needed at communion when you go up. Yet non-Catholics have received communion before and it will happen again. What actually happened? We can theorize but never really truly know. Even Fr Grochel in his 5th Luminous Mystery talk says all the mechanisms of the Eucharist even today are not known. That in the end is between the person and God as to what actually happened spiritually or not.
Wrong again. If a person receives Holy Communion knowing it is not open to them in their present state, they profane the Blessed Sacrament by doing so. They also don’t do themselves any favors.

In this day and age it would be difficult to believe that anyone would present themselves for communion without the proper preparation due to abject ignorance. When that actually does happen I would suspect nothing at all happens, but that would be very rare indeed.
 
Question to all: Do you have to be Catholic to receive Confession by a Catholic priest?

If that is the case then should that be the case?

If someone is baptised and is contrite should he/she be turned away or accepted? I am not talking about receiving counselling here. I am talking about the sacrament.

Anyway please provide you thoughts and your knowledge to me for this is something that I have been thinking about lately and do not trully have a good answer.
They would never be turned away, but they also wouldn’t be offered absolution as they are not prepared to receive it.
 
They would never be turned away, but they also wouldn’t be offered absolution as they are not prepared to receive it.
So you are saying that forgiveness of sins is only for those who are Catholic?

Christ said He did not come for those who are saved but for those who are not.

From what I have read on the sacrament what is required by the recipient is a humble and contrite heart.

So if a Lutherian man walks into a church and begs a priest to receive his confession and begs for absolution from the priest should be priest turn him down?

Would it be right to turn him down? Or would that be the same wrong if an emergency room doctor refuses to care to someone who is bleeding to death because he cannot pay? Most of us on this forum would call that doctor wrong and he should be punished for allowing that man die.

So if a man who is baptised as a Christian but not Catholic walks into a church in tears and obvious mental suffering and begs for the opportunity to confess and be absolved of the sins which he has committed, should he be turned down? Isn’t that man in the same condition as the one in the emergency room? Isn’t he dieing spiritually?

I am not challenging church authority on this subject because I do not know what it is. I have not found anywhere where it says that you must be Catholic to receive confession by a priest. It is silent on the matter. Maybe it has never come up before or maybe what we are talking about will never happen in real life.
 
First I would like to say thanks for the long response to the question.
From the Catechism of the Catholic Church: 1496 The spiritual effects of the sacrament of Penance are:
  • reconciliation with God by which the penitent recovers grace;
  • reconciliation with the Church;
  • remission of the eternal punishment incurred by mortal sins;
  • remission, at least in part, of temporal punishments resulting from sin;
  • peace and serenity of conscience, and spiritual consolation;
  • an increase of spiritual strength for the Christian battle.
Note that it says, Reconciliation with the Church.

That to me says that one should ‘normally’ be a Catholic, no?
Someone finally hit on this point which I thought of last night as well. This would be true if the recipient is Catholic but not true if the recipient wasn’t. This would seal the answer up to me but it doesn’t quite come out and say that the recipient must be Catholic.

It is pointed out in the other sacraments: Eucharist (must be Catholic); Holy Orders (must be Catholic); Confirmation (must be Catholic); Matrimony (one of the two must be Catholic); Confession (Silent). All of these are spelled out in the Code of Canon Law. Confession it is silent. So to be truthful there is not enough info for or against.
ER, the way you make your argument is very reminiscent of those who complain about the Church’s “closed” stance on communion.
I disagree with this because there should be a “closed” stance on communion for it is easily argued from a theological point that it should be closed.
It is NOT a question of how ‘we’ feel. It is a question of what GOD has said. God gave us His Son and His Son gave us His Church.
The stance of the Catholic church is that one must have a humble and contrite heart to be forgiven. A humble and contrite heart is a supernatural state and that state can only be given through the Holy Spirit. A humble and contrite heart is not a feeling it is a condition that the soul is in through the help of the Holy Spirit.
So WHO the CHURCH says is capable of receiving confession is who GOD says is thus capable. I am finding that NORMALLY a condition for reception of this as well as ALL the other sacraments (and Baptism despite your contention is included because, while the infant is not ‘baptized Catholic’ before the ceremony, the parents are Catholic, their intention is to raise the child Catholic–and for those over the age of reason, THEY THEMSELVES must PROFESS the Faith before being baptized so they have accepted Catholicism and are then ‘sealed’ by baptism) is that the person be Catholic.
The church has made it clear that if someone receives Baptism outside of the church with the use of water (immersion, sprinkling, or pouring) and the words “In the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit” are used then that is a valid Baptism. So one does not have to be Catholic to receive a valid Baptism.
Unfortunately, too many people are constantly looking for ‘loopholes’. Because a non Catholic Christian person may fully intend, say, to become Catholic, but becomes dangerously ill, the Church ‘may’ permit him or her to confess, provided he or she is fully ‘catholic’ in belief already and (should he/she recover) would make the necessary preparations to become Catholic–suddenly people want to ‘confess’ just because THEY WANT IT.
One is not ever called to Penence because they want it. It is always because the need it.
Never mind that they have no intention of abiding by Church Teachings. No, the mere ‘fact’ that they ‘want’ to confess should somehow MAKE the Church ‘give them’ what they ‘want’ because that is what ‘Jesus did’.

Except. . .He didn’t.
Jesus never turned down a humble and contrite heart. NEVER.
What Jesus did, when he died, rose, and ascended, was to pass on His ‘authority’ to the Church.
True.
 
Those people whom Jesus forgave ACCEPTED HIS AUTHORITY TO FORGIVE THEM. That is why He DID forgive them. He made the point that He had AUTHORITY TO FORGIVE sins. And those people like the Pharisees who rejected that authority WERE NOT FORGIVEN–not because Jesus ‘would not’ but because THEY ‘would not’.
True. Except in my argument the Non-Catholic person is by the very nature of requesting Confession is accepting the authority that Jesus through the priest will forgive him.
But the people you are speaking of do NOT ACCEPT His authority, His Church. . .and so He ‘cannot’ forgive them UNTIL they do accept that authority. Not because HE does not choose but because THEY do not choose.
There is not a Christian alive (Catholic, Protestant or Othodox) who does not accept the authority of Christ to forgive sins. That is one of the fundamentals of Christianity.
If they are feeling the true stirrings of a desire to conform to Catholic confession, they need to go ALL THE WAY to full union with the Catholic faith.

They are not to pick and choose what ‘they want’ and demand it of us, using Christ as a hostage to ‘good feelings’.
This point I also agree. The only contention here is that there are many “Catholics” who pick and choose what they want and demand it of the Church and those people can rightfully receive confession.
Christ is not divided against Himself.
On this I agree as well.
 
True. Except in my argument the Non-Catholic person is by the very nature of requesting Confession is accepting the authority that Jesus through the priest will forgive him.

There is not a Christian alive (Catholic, Protestant or Othodox) who does not accept the authority of Christ to forgive sins. That is one of the fundamentals of Christianity.

This point I also agree. The only contention here is that there are many “Catholics” who pick and choose what they want and demand it of the Church and those people can rightfully receive confession.

On this I agree as well.
ERose, I think that you have missed the point. In order to parake of the Sacrament of Confession, along with Catholic, you need to also believe that this recourse of mercy was entrusted by Christ to his Church.

When the priest grants absolution, he acts in persona Christi. I’m trying ot remember the formula for absolution, but, correct me if I’m wrong (anyone out there), I believe the words include “through the ministry of the Church” somewhere in there.

Protestants have no such recourse, nor do they believe in any such recourse. Ask them about confession and their reply is “I confess directly to God.” Evidently, the Resurrection account in John’s Gospel doesn’t mean that much to them.

I’m not trying to sound cold, but, baptism in another denominatoin doesn’t mean (even if the correct formula is used) that the person is entitled to the sacraments. He or she needs to be in FULL COMMUNION with the Church.
 
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