lol, sometimes i cant stand talking to you, other times, I love seeing you post here… It seems I am torn… But I am thankful that you are here and for people like you who are willing to stand up and call people out.
So you were like me, but I only waited six months.
I know I was regenerated six months before I was baptized.
Strictly speaking, us evangelicals say you must be born again to be saved. Most of us do not claim that it must be in one memorable experience. The one memorable experience does not work well for one who has the story of “I can’t remember when I was not saved”.
Hmm…this does not quite fit my experience where I was saved before being baptized.
There is no such doctrinal thing as “filled with the Spirit”. This is the Evangelical infection of the Church.true… but there is a difference between infant baptism… or mere baptism of any kind… .and being born again… filled w/ the Spirit… Being filled w/ the Spirit is NOT emotionalism as one poster seemed to be saying… Was it you??
anyhow… a lot of posters don’t seem to making that distinction…
??? Why would you not want to love you evangelical brothers and sister in Christ
Because you had this experience do not make the assumption that it is required or common. Take it as a special grace from God, then follow the “rabbit hole” all the way down. “Devour” your bible, then read good commentaries to deapen your understanding. Then read good biblical histories to better understand the times the Bible was written in. Then read good histories on the early Church, and read the writings of the Church fathers.
There is nothing wrong with these spiritual renewal events, so long as a person is careful to avoid some of their… inaccurate (trying to be kind here) theology.
dude, what? You were actually converted by a Chick Tract!!! Good lord!!! Those things scare me, and not in a way that leads to God. Read “The Nightmare World of Jack Chick” to get a better understanding of that one… Wow…
Oh stop. St. Thomas Aquinas used the language made popular by Aristotle to flesh out the SUmma Theologica, are you going to avoid using those as well?
how do you find charismatics? I had a good experience w/ a group of them once…
when those who have been thro this born again thing fall, they really fall… it seems…
:shrug:but some christians act like jumping up an down praising Jesus (mindlessly?) is better than - or a substitute for - knowing & adhering to the doctrines/dogmas of the Original Church… and some Catholics think the opposite…:coffeeread:nonCatholics are missing out
a catechized Catholic, i should add… which is the best of the best worlds… Of course it is also a “curse” because i know very few … No, wait, i know NONE who fit into this category with me… which is kinda my fault cuz i’m not very outgoing and don’t try to find those who have this in common w/ me… sometimes I feel very… not so much alone… but … what’s the word? well, misunderstood is a good one for starters…yes, and as long as a person is alive on Earth he will have to accept this journey… he can’t tell himself he has “arrived” becaus that doesn’t happen until death… and he may not arrive in heaven until he’s gone through a long stint in Purgartory… which i’ve heard is a place of excrutiating pain… like Hell except that it comes to an end…
I’ve been through this and it is not “emotional”… In fact that word demeans the experience…
Cathlics don’t seem to understand those who have been thro this experience… and those who have been thro it but aren’t Catholic don’t u/stand Ctholics…
A lot of A of G people DO criticize certain RCC teachings… like the prohibition on artif b. control … They seem to think tht since they are “saved” ( yet salvation is an ongoing process that always requires our cooperation…) they are free to use artif b. control… They focus on GRACE and faith alone, not on any particular teachings on matters they do not deem important or directly related to salvation… Yet artif b. control IS related to salvation cuz whatever you do to your body and/or heart, you do to your soul… and what you do also affects your spouse/others… God wants the body and soul to be united… not one doing one thing & the other trying to do another…I’m sorry you feel you have to defend this so much. I suspect the vocabulary is something to blame. I think, in Catholic terms, you could say that you desired Baptism for those six months, since God laid it on your heart. I hope this is accurate.
that’s your opinion. If you haven’t been thro the experience, then maybe that’s why you don’t u/stand it…
i appreciate/value truth. i love Jesus.
One even tries to tell me (& the other probably would tell me… but … uh… knows me…) that the Bible doesn’t condemn it!!! 
Geeze… even if i weren’t Catholic or Christian of any kind, i would not be enthused about fornication… Experience alone tells a person it is WRONG… but then humans have a huge capacity for self-deception… which is why Jesus had to come and go through what He went through… 
People seem to have to be hit over the head with a heavy stick b4 they get the picture…i think poster means why so much love for a not-entirely-true religious system…
i agree w/ most of what you say… but i can u/stand a Chick track helping someone find Christ… cuz the ones that aren’t bashing Catholicism speak of accepting Christ, being forgiven and all that… Humans will always be guilty of mixing truth w/ error… human nature… (fallen human nature that is)…
i say it is required…
catholic.com/library/sr_chick_tracts_p1.asp
Again, there is nothing in Catholicism that states a “Born again” experience is required, otherwise how could a person have the faith from birth through death?
i could say the same thing, even tho i am born again… (long story…)
Yes, scripture speaks of being born again into the Holy Spirit. This does not mean that a “born again” experience is required. Take it as a gift from God, as I told Hiskid a while ago, and thank God for giving you the grace to suddenly and completely see Him as well as a human is able. But do not take it as required.