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coleraine
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you are a hateful person. all i can do is pray for you i guess.
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coleraine
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that is what i am saying. im not saying that islam is all that great but i dont think its the religion of the devil. it is hateful to say that they are evil or the antichrist.
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Jesusisgod
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By your statement you admit yourself as an apostate. Because God says Islam is Anti-Christ. We do not deny there are ‘muslims’ out there who are peaceful. What many don’t realise is that these are NOT true muslims or they are failing to practise islam as it truly is. That’s why the religion is stuck in a dilemma. To tell them the truth so as to graduate them to terrorist status, or continue to pretend islam is peaceful? The other option is to force them out of islam.
True Islam = Terror. Following from the NON-CONTEXTUAL quran.
Qur’an:9:88 “The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah’s Cause.”
Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and slaughter the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
Qur’an:9:112 “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”
Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”
Ishaq:325 “Muslims, fight in Allah’s Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious.”
Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”
Qur’an:8:39 “So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).”
Ishaq:324 “He said, ‘Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals.’”
PS. allah is a name. the regular arabic noun for the word god is ILAH. If you see Luke 16:16, you will see that Jesus openly declared that there are no more prophets after John the Baptist. This directly implies that Muhammad of islam was a FRAUD and not a prophet. The book of John says : 1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Messiah? He is antichrist, that denieth God the Father and Jesus the Son.
*** Islam was established to reject the salvation grace of God because it openly declares Jesus to be just a man, not God coming to earth to save man. It also purposefully claims that the person who died on the cross is not Jesus but Judas!..If you look at it carefully, you will know that this effectively sends every man back into Hell! (because God’s salvation plan is snuffed out)
And the name of allah has already been discovered by historians & archaelogists to be the name of the ancient Babylonian moon idol - Hubal Baal.
If you bother to read the scripture, you will KNOW who is Baal. The arch enemy of God!..Prophet Elijah fought furiously with the followers of Baal on Mount Carmel. THIS IS AN ANCIENT BATTLE. Which is why the Bible says, the name is the name of an ancient serpent.
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R_not
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Then don’t tell us who know the details of islam to stop posting.
Tell me the difference between these two muslims - one is considered a terrorist, while the other is considered a prophet and a perfect man.
- “I was ordered to fight all men until they say ‘There is no god but Allah.’” prophet Mohammad’s farewell address, March 632
- “I was ordered to fight the people until they say there is no god but Allah, and his prophet Mohammed.”
Please read up on islam and you will find that the poster you are calling a bad person (you shouldn’t do that) is not, but just stating it how they see it. Maybe they could refine their posts a bit more in order for people to not be turned off, but hey - I believe in free speech - unlike muslims who do not and are working to stifle it in the UN.
free speech vs hate speech
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coleraine
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do i have to tell you again? i do not like islam. ok thats plain and simple. but i dont hate it, and i dont hate muslims. what do you think should be done? we cant stop a religion from existing. we cant wage war on a religion just because it promote violence in some circumstances. we should be strong in opposing it but not violently hateful as the thread poster is. and about my signature, we do need to work together. but dont you realize we cant declare war on islam? we have to confront it, that is for sure, but we have to be subtle. we have to educate muslima and non-muslims alike, but that wont go over so well if were just like “your all satan worshipers, your ancestors were murderers, so why not convert?” so what do you think we should do? we cant spew hate, thats all i know for sure right now.
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R_not
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I don’t believe that mohammed saw the angel Gabriel, but I do think that he had frontal lobe epilepsy. And say he did see and angel - I would say it was more along the lines of the angel Lucifer - the Prince of Lies.
mohammed not only lied, but told his followers to do so when necessary.
here are some choice excerpts from both the koran and hadiths showing muslims that mohammed lied and to do the same:
Bukhari:V7B67N427 “The Prophet said, ‘If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath.’”
Qur’an 9:3 “Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations.”
Qur’an 66:2 “Allah has already sanctioned for you the dissolution of your vows.”
Bukhari:V4B52N268 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘War is deceit.’”
here they are even admitting that the koran has abrogated verses in it (basically the peaceful stuff that the muslims quote were replaced by the violent passages and they don’t like to admit to that)
Bukhari:V6B60N8 "Umar said, 'Our best Qur’an reciter is Ubai. And in spite of this, we leave out some of his statements because Allah’s Apostle himself said, “Whatever verse or revelation We abrogate or cause to be forgotten We bring a better one.”
this one is very telling!
Ishaq:519 “Hajjaj said to the Apostle, ‘I have money scattered among the Meccan merchants, so give me permission to go and get it.’ Having got Muhammad’s permission, he said, ‘I must tell lies.’ The Apostle said, ‘Tell them.’”
Basically, if one realizes it then we are bashed for quoting their own koran and hadiths back to them. They deny, ignore, deflect to other’s bad behavior, then when all else fails they will say that we are bad Christians, and the list goes on when they know that their facade is uncovered.
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Jesusisgod
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You can’t wage a war, and you can’t speak out against evil.
Tell you what coleraine, you might as well be a muslim cos no soldier of God would be defunct in the face of a spiritual battle. And I’m sure if you are an arrow, you will fail to hit the target. Might as well use you as firewood.
*** We all know you don’t hate the Anti-Christ and you don’t wish to speak out against lies either. Which means you are not in the light!
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R_not
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Don’t attack each other and make sure that you stand up in preserving our own laws in our land and make sure the history is taught correctly, etc. They are changing the history in our kid’s history books and demanding more and more. The demands by muslims in Swift factory is one such incident and the Latinos stood up for themselves and there was an emailing campaign to the Swift company to tell them what they are doing is wrong. other incidences are the cabbies, the flying imams, etc. Michael Savage was threatened and bullied to stop his lawsuit and so are many in youtube, and authors and people who put out the books - look at Geert Wilders, Theo Van Gogh who was killed for telling the truth about islam, and Hirsi Ali has to live with 24 hour guards. The list goes on.
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coleraine
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everyone please ignore all my replies to this thread. i now agree with all of you, and the thread poster. i guess i just didnt want to realize how bad islam really is. im sorry for my ignorance. but now i ask myself…what do we do? we all agree, but what do we do from here?
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R_not
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Pray hard! But, don’t do what others have done in the countries that are now under islamic laws (sharia law) and just let islam run roughshod over us and then later hope that someone will help us. we don’t have to get to a point where violence and chaos is a way of life - we can stop their junk right now as it crops up. Tell them to leave their ‘religion’ at home just like everyone else. and I personally don’t care about ‘hurting the sensibilities of muslims’ when telling the truth. They certainly have no problem bashing us in their mosques and madrassas! their koran and hadiths are full of that!
I can show examples of clerics bashing us, articles of or own homeland security finding texts full of anti-semitism and anti-Christian, etc stuff in them, etc. Search jihadwatch.org for articles, or just peruse/read it daily for a daily update of what is going on worldwide.
I joined Act for America, like I wrote to you, and we do things to make people aware. And don’t be discouraged if they bash you - they do it whenever someone knows islam and use their own hadiths and koran to show them why. Stay as anonymous as you can - protect yourself.
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Muslim_Woman
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Salaam/peace
easy…join the Islam bashers. I already started a thread , if that’s not enough for u & friends , then start more. Best of luck
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Nicolas
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why do you label any post against Islam as Islam bashing ?Salaam/peace
easy…join the Islam bashers. I already started a thread , if that’s not enough for u & friends , then start more. Best of luck
you shouldn’t decide who is bashing Islam and who is not while you are a muslim in a Catholic forum…
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R_not
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Yeah, go there so she can ignore you completely.Salaam/peace
easy…join the Islam bashers. I already started a thread , if that’s not enough for u & friends , then start more. Best of luck
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Jesusisgod
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NOBODY here is bashing muslims, they are just quoting you YOUR islamic texts which reveals islamic evil. That’s all.Salaam/peace
easy…join the Islam bashers. I already started a thread , if that’s not enough for u & friends , then start more. Best of luck
As to going to a specific thread, you are wasting your time. Why should anybody let the criminal decide where he/she deserves to be sent to for counselling?
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Truthfaithlove
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Its very disturbing.
Muslims are not allowed to leave islam (they get killed if they do).
Muslims are not allowed to question islam (that’s why islam means submission)
Muslims are born i-n-t-o islam (and they stay stuck because their relatives are all muslims)
And islam seeks to control muslim lives even having a hand in the government and setting islamic laws that so frequently ends up creating a mess of things and tyrannical leaderships.
In short, Muslims in reality are stuck in the religion, prevented from hearing the truth and unable to discern because they lack the knowledge. The only way to save people from muslims is to speak out and inform everybody. By keeping quiet, more and more people will remain ignorant and that’s when a religion like islam can thrive.
Muslims are not allowed to leave islam (they get killed if they do).
Muslims are not allowed to question islam (that’s why islam means submission)
Muslims are born i-n-t-o islam (and they stay stuck because their relatives are all muslims)
And islam seeks to control muslim lives even having a hand in the government and setting islamic laws that so frequently ends up creating a mess of things and tyrannical leaderships.
In short, Muslims in reality are stuck in the religion, prevented from hearing the truth and unable to discern because they lack the knowledge. The only way to save people from muslims is to speak out and inform everybody. By keeping quiet, more and more people will remain ignorant and that’s when a religion like islam can thrive.
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coleraine
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Yah, it seems as though islam is just about the power of few, leading the masses in any direction they wish. whats weird is that muslims on here arent trying to prove us wrong. probably because they know they cant. check out the link in my sig.
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Jesusisgod
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Islam means ‘submission’, if muslims start to question their religious teachings, they immediately CEASE to be muslims…I have heard of muslim students being chased out of islamic classes just for asking islamic religious questions.
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Truthfaithlove
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I don’t think muslims will read that lengthy website…most muslims I know simply DON’T READ. Especially if it doesn’t make them think better of islam.
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Truthfaithlove
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Sorry for the bluntness.
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RobHom
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colerain… I understand where you are coming from in the beginning of this thread. You were expressing what many of us feel as Catholics, as it is not a part of our faith to attack anyone for their beliefs. We have been taught otherwise. I myself felt that way for some time, but events in the past years have made my stance change significantly…especially where islam is concerned.
You comment above rings quite true, and for many years now I have been explaining to people who don’t understand the nature of islam…that islam is merely communism with a man-made god. Think about it. What is the difference between islam and communism? There is only one significant difference: islam says it has a god. That’s it in a nutshell. The entire goal of communism was to subjugate the world…and this is islams goal. Communism is a totalitarian system with absolutely no concern for the rights of mankind. Islam is identical. Political Commissars make and enforce the rules, mullahs and immans do the same. Both have their “police” that terrorize their people. It would also be quite easy to equate islam with the Nazi Third Reich…with whom the arabs were allies in WWII. I could go on and on…
The best thing that we can do…is educate ourselves against this beast. Educate those that know us. Some will lift their eyebrows and think we are nuts. I think back in history when Chamberlain flew to Germany and “made peace” with Hitler, then returned in “triumph” to England and when he got off the plane he said “There will be peace in our time”…and shortly thereafter Hitler’s war machine swung into full action, and England itself suffered greatly.
I personally harbor a deep fear that our years of relative peace are numbered. Despite the war that exists…we have “relative peace”. 9/11 was a blip on the radar. I won’t go into detail, but I fear the future for my grandchildren’s sake. I expect one day to saddle up, mount up, pick up the guide-on and stand my ground.
I pray that I am wrong, but history has an ugly way of proving it repeats itself.
I found this article particularly interesting: jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1213794275742&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Muslim woman… No one hates you. I told you this before. There is no need to “bash” islam. We are well past that point in our lives and history. What is necessary is to stop you and your kind from destroying all that we hold dear to us… I can only hope that you and others like you come to your senses and leave that abomination you call a religion and convert and come to know and love the One True God of the ONLY Holy Book in the world, the Bible.
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