Do you know what Yahweh God tells us about Islam?

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So what? I have quoted from the Koran only to prove you a hypocrite and I have succeeded. You criticise the Old Testament for having figures of speech whilst your scripture does the same. 🤷
Unfortunately, your New American Catholic Bible disagree with your an another Catholic Douay Rheims Latin Vlulgate Bible’s English translation of Isaiah 7:20, and (now after 2000 years) tells in plain English that your Lord will use the same rented razor from across the River (with the king of Assyria but instead of shaving hair of your legs, He will shave “…” [something else which I cannot quote] alongwith your heads, beards.

If you don’t believe me, please look by yourself by clicking here at your Vatican’s Site:

Isaiah Chapter 7 Verse 20
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PNQ.HTM


I don’t know why you are so upset, when I did not quote * The Message Bible* to see what in that Bible your God will do to you unlike your Catholic God., because I know that, that particular Bible (i.e., The Message ) is not a Catholic one.

Did I say that The Message Bible is a Catholic Bible?​
 
**Isaiah 7:20, and (now after 2000 years) tells in plain English that your Lord will use the same rented razor from across the River (with the king of Assyria but instead of shaving hair of your legs, He will shave “…” [something else which I cannot quote] alongwith your heads, beards.

** is a Catholic Bible?
Isaiah 7:20 says that in a section entitled “The Sign of Immanuel (Jesus the Christ, the Messiah): In that day the Lord will use a razor hired from beyond the river–the King of Assyria–to shave your head and the hair of your legs and to take off your beards also.”

Shaving was a sign of mourning in those times. The Old Testament shows how God allows evil people to fight against his children to purify them and make them acknowledge their dependence on God. However, those evil people were always themselves punished and what they wickedly intended to do to others was done to them in the end.
 
Isaiah 7:20 says that in a section entitled “The Sign of Immanuel (Jesus the Christ, the Messiah): In that day the Lord will use a razor hired from beyond the river–the King of Assyria–to shave your head and the hair of your legs and to take off your beards also.”
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If you are a Catholic, then, Catholically, you are dead wrong. because as per RECENT Catholic Bible (NAB’s) INFALLIABLE commentary, Catholic God will use the Assyrians from across the River (the Euphrates) as his instrument (razor) to inflict disgrace and suffering upon his people.

You seem quoting a different Bible, perhaps a Protestant more corrupted Bible** from Catholic Church standpoint.

You need to quote from the following New American Bible direct from the Vatican Site: Click the Below Link. There you find something else instead of "hair of your legs’

Isaiah Chapter 7 Verse 20
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PNQ.HTM


If you are a Protestant or an ex-Catholic due to excommunication from Catholic Church, then the following Holy Bible may be for you:
  • The Message Bible* to see what in that Bible your God will do to you unlike your Catholic God., because I know that, that particular Bible (i.e., The Message ) is not a Catholic one.
I did not say that The Message Bible is a Catholic Bible, but somehow Angelos was very upset to see the quotes from his own Holy BIBLES.

If you are a Mormon Christian, then I have no idea what Mormon’s God will do with you “on that Day”, as per their version of Isaiah 7:20. Whether he will just shave your legs (alongwith your heads and beards) and plus “samething” what now New American Catholic Bible is revealing after 2000 years for the first time or it will add more new things (such as things mentioned in The Message Bible, which I cannot quote here, I don’t know.

You better ask Mormon Christians first, before claiming/talking on behalf of their God and labelling/accusing what he (the Mormon Christian God) can/cannot do.

 
I have a New American Bible. The point is not the shaving, but that it will be a time of great mourning and punishment for sin. It does not glorify the Assyrians. All such prophesies were to bring God’s people to repentance before God allowed such things.

(The main difference between the Catholic and Protestant Bibles is that Martin Luther threw out books of the Bible that corresponded with Catholic teaching he disapproved of, like purgatory.)
 
The information you have quoted from the Catholic Encyclopedia debunks your claim that Allah is the proper noun of the Islamic god. R_Not contends that Allah is the name of the pagan moon god because you Muslims avoid translating the word Allah as “the God” in all the languages other than Arabic.
The reason Muslims prefer to keep the word ALLAH as it is even in the English language, because the English word ‘GOD’ (due to Christian/Pagans impact) can be manipulated such as Goddess or God-father, God-Mother…ecc., whereas the Arabic Word 'ALLAH" (due to Islamic theological meaning/concept and Arabs monotheism) cannot be distorted as Famale Allah or Allah Abba…ecc.

And as far R_not, he was talking/objecting something else based on some contents from an anti-Islam misguided website. Now hopefully after checking the Arabic word for ‘God’ in an Arabic translation of his own Bible, he will never raise such non-sensical issue if he is a sensable person.
 
The reason Muslims prefer to keep the word ALLAH as it is even in the English language, because the English word ‘GOD’ (due to Christian/Pagans impact) can be manipulated such as Goddess or God-father, God-Mother…ecc., whereas the Arabic Word 'ALLAH" (due to Islamic theological meaning/concept and Arabs monotheism) cannot be distorted as Famale Allah or Allah Abba…ecc.

And as far R_not, he was talking/objecting something else based on some contents from an anti-Islam misguided website. Now hopefully after checking the Arabic word for ‘God’ in an Arabic translation of his own Bible, he will never raise such non-sensical issue if he is a sensable person.
THere is nothing anti-islam about it. Anything that doesn’t agree with you you just write off as ‘anti’. You don’t even know about the roots of mohammed, allah, the kabaa, the black stone, your rites, etc.

Believe it or not, there was life before mohammed and when mohammed was born - all those things he put into islam were from his religion that he grew up with and lived with for about 40 years.

you cannot even prove the Bible was distorted, or rewritten, and only accept an illiterate, pagan’s word for it.

It makes all those stories in the koran baseless when refering to the Bible. And if those were baseless, it goes to the heart of islam and the koran being baseless too.

In fact, there is no proof that it was the angel Gabriel who came to mohammed since mohammed admitted to being deceived by Satan (the Satanic verses) - who says the rest of the koran wasn’t from Satan too?!

They allow abrogation when they are embarressed with the koran, but not when they want to use the koran and post other abrogated surahs that try to paint islam as peaceful. They cannot have it both ways - bascially the koran is something that mohammed made up, and from day to day he would forget what he said the previous day/week/month. And so the later surahs replaced the earlier surahs (which are out of order which says even more about the koran being doubtful).

koran

a quote from the above article: The last two chapters of the Qur’an are chapter 5 and chapter 9, in their correct chronological order, Allah’s Last Call. The opinions of scholars differ over which is the last chapter, but they both contain the final orders for all Muslims. These laws abrogate, cancel ALL the earlier, ‘peaceful and tolerant’ verses of the Qur’an. These final and absolute orders demand Jihad, holy war against all non-Muslims forever. All non-Muslims must be killed, enslaved and controlled by Muslims. Islam must rule the world. Islam is in fact a License to Kill in the name of Allah. Holy War is the holy law of Islam. This unique law called Jihad gives all Muslims the right to attack and kill non-Muslims, to loot, rape and enslave them, and to rule the world in the name of Allah.

It is so easy to prove the koran is not the word of any god - not even a pagan god. For mohammed’s pagan god was not the bloodthirsty god that allah became via mohammed.

There are 7 versions of the koran

Because the Arabs were illiterate the koran was put to memory by mohammed’s companions. And mohammed was giving his companions different versions. This did indeed cause fighting and accusations. When they approached mohammed about it - mohammed said ‘that is what allah said’. So, it seemed that allah didn’t even know its own creatures and that it would cause so much dissent. People were killed over this (gee, muslims killed muslims even then! Should that surprise us?).

The surahs are out of order and the koran, it seems, was messed up overall. And as we see with the Satanic Verses, who says that the surahs that replaced the peaceful passages were given to mohammed by Satan? (if mohammed received anything by any angel at all - or if it wasn’t all stuff mohammed made up)
 
Since you won’t read the site about allah - here it is for you and read how the closest thing we have to allah - is Lucifer claiming that he will ascend into heaven. And that mohammed’s father’s name was ABDALLAH which shows that allah was of his father’s religion and it meant ‘a worshipper or servant of Allah’:

allah

Etymology: From a primitive ancient semitic root alah developing in Arabic to Allah, Aliha, Alay. Thought to be the equivilent of the Hebrew God Elohim. Translated by some as El-yah (the god who ascends, the god who is mighty). The name Allah was never used in the Old Testament as a name for God. The god Allah was worshiped among the pantheon of pagan deities in Arabia. His name appears in the name of Mohammed’s father “Abdullah”, with “lah” being an abbreviation of Allah, the last three letters.

Origin:

According to Jewish sources, the word “alah” in the Hebrew language means “to ascend.” Alah is found in the Hebrew Bible 688 times and translated a number of ways: “went up” [Gen 2:6]; “arose” [Gen 19:15]; and “ascend” [Isa 14:13]. There is only one text of scripture in which “alah” is used that comes near describing a god and that is Isaiah 14:13. In this text Lucifer, the great satan, claims he will “alah” [ascend] into heaven and replace God. This boast by the great satan is believed by many Christians to be the origin of the use of the name Allah for a god.

Prior to Mohammed’s conversion to the Jewish religion from which he fashioned his new religion of Islam, the god “Allah” among the pagan Arabs of Arabia was the highest or the mighty god. Since this god was the family god of Mohammed’s father, it is no mystery why then Allah became the mighty god of Islam.

Purpose:

If indeed the great satan made his boast to be “Alah” in Isaiah 14:13, and if indeed, he has impregnated over a billion people upon the earth to shout his name, then Lucifer has indeed become a mighty god for a billion people upon the earth. The Qur’an would by implication be the Bible of Lucifer as written or dictated by Mohammed.

Contradictions with Jewish and Christian Bible:

No where in the Jewish Bible or the Christian Bible is the name Alah or Allah used for the name of the true God. The Jews would never mention or pronounce the name of a pagan god (Exo 23:13). That “Alah, Allah” was deemed to be the name of a pagan god would be indicated by the absence of this name from the Bible. Jews today do not accept “Alah or Allah” to be the name of God or to be the same God as Elohim. Most Christians today do not accept “Alah or Allah” to be the name of God or to be the same God as Elohim.

Once again islam is easy to prove that it was pagan, and there is nothing about it that would make any thinking person want to convert to it - if they have done any research on it.
 
Unfortunately, your New American Catholic Bible disagree with your an another Catholic Douay Rheims Latin Vlulgate Bible’s English translation of Isaiah 7:20, and (now after 2000 years) tells in plain English that your Lord will use the same rented razor from across the River (with the king of Assyria but instead of shaving hair of your legs, He will shave “…” [something else which I cannot quote] alongwith your heads, beards.

If you don’t believe me, please look by yourself by clicking here at your Vatican’s Site:

Isaiah Chapter 7 Verse 20
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PNQ.HTM


I don’t know why you are so upset, when I did not quote * The Message Bible* to see what in that Bible your God will do to you unlike your Catholic God., because I know that, that particular Bible (i.e., The Message ) is not a Catholic one.

Did I say that The Message Bible is a Catholic Bible?​
You are a man of irrelevant answers. 🤷

Different translations of a chapter of Isaiah’s book do not change the fact that God of the Bible uses figures of speech and that Mohammad’s god does the same!
 
The reason Muslims prefer to keep the word ALLAH as it is even in the English language, because the English word ‘GOD’ (due to Christian/Pagans impact) can be manipulated such as Goddess or God-father, God-Mother…ecc., whereas the Arabic Word 'ALLAH" (due to Islamic theological meaning/concept and Arabs monotheism) cannot be distorted as Famale Allah or Allah Abba…ecc.
Your argument comes to naught when we remember the historic fact that Meccan pagans considered Allah male and called him the father of many daughters! This was why the female form of Allah was AllaT. 🤷
 
Time for the next Shocker For Christians,

Do YOU KNOW that the original word for the name of Satan is Heylel Ben Shachar as written in the book of Isaiah 14?

And do you know that the ROOT word for Heylel is Halal?

Revelation 13:17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.


The NAME of the beast will be used for commercial transaction. Now, whose name is “Halal”?

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Time for the next Shocker For Christians,

Do YOU KNOW that the original word for the name of Satan is Heylel Ben Shachar as written in the book of Isaiah 14?

And do you know that the ROOT word for Heylel is Halal
?

Revelation 13:17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

The NAME of the beast will be used for commercial transaction. Now, whose name is “Halal”?

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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Anyway, I went to look up that passage and I found before it this one:
13:15 he was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

It goes on, but what strikes me is that in islam what is one of the three conditions for peace with muslims by non-muslims?.. death, conversion, or subjugation. Forced conversion is the death of the soul and the future generations. And subjugation is also the death of the soul and future generations.
 
I just saw a post from planten on ‘Ask About islam’, so I am having my doubts that Analyzer and planten are one and the same. They just all sound the same - brainwashed.

I notice that there are more muslims logging in to try to do their da’wa.
 
i believe it is a type of holy war, though not nearly as seriously as jihad.
Da’wa: Definition: In Islam, da’wa means a “call” or “invitation,” and has been used to refer to a person being “called” to follow Islam. However, it has developed into the idea of a “mission” or “propaganda,” either in a political or religious sense.
Actually Da’wa is considered to be some type of “Jihad” its called “The Word Jihad” (aka Jihad Alkalema) , per (Quran 25:52) and the instructions of Muhammed in this Hadith:

Sometimes it is spelled differently - dawah, and I have seen other spellings. It is what they do before the violence usually. Bin Laden and Zawahiri even did it to us before he bombs/attacks. We have seen some of his calls/da’wa, but not all. I am sure they only release some of his stuff to us.
 
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