Do you prefer the OF or EF of Mass?

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basically, everything is sung at a high mass, and not sung at a low mass.
 
That’s not correct.

At various times the priest says “Dominus vobiscum” and we reply “et cum spiritu tuo”

I’m sure you know the translation.

There’s others but that’s the only one I’ve memorized in my short time going to mass since starting RCIA in September.

ETA: and we say it in a normal speaking voice as you would say it at a OF mass. Other parishes may be different of course.
 
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Just be careful to not end up reading from a dissenter website. Some people get an inordinate attachment to the EF which can lead to pride, schism, and even heresy.

If you see anything like “SSPX”, “SSPV”, “Novus Ordo Invalid”, “antipope Francis”, “the conciliar church”… RUN. Don’t walk, run immediately away from such demonic things which foment schism and even heresy and hatred.
 
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Spyridon said:
The EF has a bad tendency to induce spiritual pride or even heresy in some people.
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I disagree with this statement. The EF does not have a bad tendency to induce spiritual pride or heresy.

On the contrary, prideful and heretical traditionalists attend some EF masses, but the EF mass doesn’t make them prideful or heretical.
 
phil19034 said:
the contrary, prideful and heretical traditionalists attend some EF masses, but the EF mass doesn’t make them prideful or heretic
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What I should have said is some people get an inordinate attachment to the EF which can lead to pride, schism, and even heresy.
 
You are correct.

If you are not sure, you can always quickly call your local diocese to make sure the Church is in full communion with the Catholic Church.
 
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Correct on all fronts.

Tridentine / Traditional Latin Mass, Extraordinary Form, and (usually) Latin Mass all refer to the Mass of the Roman Rite in use from the 16th century Ecumenical Council of Trent to right after the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council.

Low Mass, High Mass, sung Mass, and Solemn High Pontifical Mass all refer to various usages of that Tridentine Mass.

And just think - this is all just in reference to the Roman Rite Mass. The Church has 5 other families of Rites in the East, plus other Latin Rites in the West!

And the two groups you are likely to encounter which you should stay away from are SSPX and SSPV.

Two groups which you may encounter which are in good standing are the ICKSP and FSSP.
 
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And there are a small amout of non Roman rite western Catholics, if that makes sense.
 
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The EF has no such ‘tendency’ to induce spiritual pride or heresy in ‘some people’ anymore than the OF has such ‘tendency’ to do exactly the same. Individual people hijack perfectly valid rites which do not have anything wrong with them.

Or don’t you think that the OF tends to induce spiritual pride or heresy in 'some people"?

If you don’t, then you really are traducing the EF and its adherents.

If you do, then you should realize quite clearly that neither the EF NOR the OF is the problem, but simply the individual who tries to ‘use’ them in a heretical or wrong way.

And let’s face it, if Tammy Traditional is ‘using’ criticism of the OF to think and ‘breed’ heresy, if there were no OF to complain about, Tammy would find something else in Catholicism, or quite simply SOME THING to make into a false god/idol/problem/criticism.

Same with Oscar Ordinary. If Oscar goes off and starts using criticism of the EF to browbeat, threaten, make himself superior to the ‘rigid people’, then again, if there were no EF to complain about Oscar would find something ELSE in Catholicism, or quite simply SOME THING to make into a false god/idol/problem/criticism.

The problem is taking one rite and making it the supposed ‘cause’ of people’s actions, while ignoring the fact that proponents of the other rite use IT to do some pretty rotten things as well.
 
Correct. You should not attend there, and attending there would not satisfy your Sunday Obligation.

Attending at one of those Churches is really only acceptable in an emergency.

NOTE: Pope Francis is working on trying to bring the SSPX back into full communion with the Church, but I’m not sure if he will be successful or not.

God Bless
 
I thought EWTN did the OF, but using it the way Vatican 2 actually called for, with Latin in its proper place, but the OF form of the Mass, i.e. hymns, the rubrics for the OF with its particular options, etc.
 
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OF. However EWTN is mostly EF.
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No, EWTN very rarely televises an Extraordinary Form of the Mass, and when it does - it’s a TV special for them. The daily mass they broadcast is the Ordinary Form of the Mass, with some Latin.
 
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And there are a small amout of non Latin western Catholics, of that makes sense.
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I think you might have a typo here.

All “western” Catholics are Latin Catholics. But not all Latin Catholics use the Roman Rite. Some use the Ambrosian Rite, Rite of Braga, Mozarabic Rite, Carmelite Rite, etc.

God Bless
 
I chose my words poorly, I reworded it to accurately reflect what I was trying to convey.
 
I grew up with the old form of Mass. The only things I miss from it are the silence and the music. Otherwise I prefer to go to a Mass in the vernacular.
 
SSPX - (Priestly) Society of Saint Pius X
SSPV - Society of Saint Pius V

These are two schismatic groups. Stay away from them.

FSSP - Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter - the acronym comes from their Latin name, they started as SSPX Priests who entered back into full communion with Rome
ICKSP - Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest

These two are holy groups in full communion and good standing with Rome.
 
I prefer the EF, or the Anglican Mass, Divine Worship: The Missal.

If I had access to the divine liturgy I would probably prefer that based on what I’ve seen in other countries.

OF? No.
 
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