Do you support a synagogue on the Temple Mount?

[GregoryPalamas]

Have you ever honestly felt afraid to say something bad about Muslims?

I’m noticing a funny trend. People play up how dangerous Muslims are, and then say bad things about them in purported “acts of bravery,” declaring things like “I won’t be silenced!”

Look around folks. No muslims are at your doorsteps, anywhere near you, or doing anything violent to silence you.

Yes, I have.

CDL

 

[GregoryPalamas]

My understanding of some suggesting the need for a rebuilt temple is so the Jews could resume animal sacrifice. At least I believe this is the view in some Christian circles.

Perhaps resuming animal sacrifice may not be a strange goal for some of the Jews in the Middle East, from whom God hasn’t yet removed the “spirit of slumber”.

John,

The article and this thread are not about rebuilding the temple. If you wish to discuss that start your own thread. Please, it is NOT about rebuilding the Temple. It is NOT about rebuilding the temple.

CDL

 

[jmcrae]

I think that there should be both an Orthodox Jewish synagogue and a Catholic church built there, side by side with the mosque.

All of the people of Jerusalem who believe in One God should ascend that Mount every single weekend of the year to give honour and worship to Him. They should do this in peace, with respect for one another, and the reason is that the name “Jerusalem” is supposed to mean “A Place of Peace.”

 

[cestusdei]

A nice big Cathedral up there would be nice. There is plenty of room. The bells could be heard all over town. In the Muslim quarter they blast the azan through megaphones right into churches. Quite annoying. Let’s put a synagogue also up there. The Muslims need to learn something we all learn in kindergarden…to share.

 

[mercygate]

There are probably more christians that Jews who want to see the 3rd Temple built.
Building a synagouge there for what reason? I think Israel has plenty of synagouges. No reason to pour gasoline on fire by building one there.

I don’t see it from this angle.

The Temple is the Temple. Putting up a synagogue wjould be a capitulation to the supremacy of Islam on that site.

I am not one of those fundamentalist Christian Zionists pumping for the restoration of Zion to fulfill millenialist views, but every time I see that dome on the Temple rock it’s like a smack in the face.

 

[mercygate]

Have you ever honestly felt afraid to say something bad about Muslims?

I’m noticing a funny trend. People play up how dangerous Muslims are, and then say bad things about them in purported “acts of bravery,” declaring things like “I won’t be silenced!”

Look around folks. No muslims are at your doorsteps, anywhere near you, or doing anything violent to silence you.

Please. I live in New York. Where have you spent the past five years?

 

[GregoryPalamas]

Jm and Ce,

I agree completely. Why let them bully us away from this holy site?

CDL

 

[Rodrigo_Bivar]

Have you ever honestly felt afraid to say something bad about Muslims?

I’m noticing a funny trend. People play up how dangerous Muslims are, and then say bad things about them in purported “acts of bravery,” declaring things like “I won’t be silenced!”

Look around folks. No muslims are at your doorsteps, anywhere near you, or doing anything violent to silence you.

Try saying it in Riyadh, pro.

 

[LilyM]

I don’t see it from this angle.

The Temple is the Temple. Putting up a synagogue wjould be a capitulation to the supremacy of Islam on that site.

I am not one of those fundamentalist Christian Zionists pumping for the restoration of Zion to fulfill millenialist views, but every time I see that dome on the Temple rock it’s like a smack in the face.

??? Putting up a Jewish synagogue would be a capitulation to Islam? How exactly???

I for one would love to see ces’s idea - a mosque, a synagogue and a Cathedral all side by side. Why on earth not, if Muslims and Jews and Christians all really believe the respect most of us profess for each other and truly wish to acknowledge our common roots.

 

[Rodrigo_Bivar]

You cannot even demolish a single brick from the al-Aqsa mosque without the Muslims agitating for jihad all over the world. There’s no way the Muslims will accept anything except the status quo with regards to the al-Aqsa mosque.

 

[pro_universal]

Please. I live in New York. Where have you spent the past five years?

Washington.

 

[pro_universal]

Try saying it in Riyadh, pro.

Try saying Islam is alright in belgrade.

 

[Rodrigo_Bivar]

I didn’t know Saudi Arabia had just emerged from a war with Christians nor was it under the yoke of centuries of Christian conquest.

One can see why the Serbians hate Islam, having endured it for centuries. This is not to condone hatred of Muslims, though, just the eradication of Islam.

 

[Ridgerunner]

On the assumption there is sufficient room, I think it is entirely up to the Jews whether or not they want to build on the Temple Mount. As a Christian, I do not consider it my concern, or any of my business.

 

[Rodrigo_Bivar]

There is room all right but the Muslims claim the entire Temple Mound (and the ground beneath), not just the mosques on top.

 

[pro_universal]

I didn’t know Saudi Arabia had just emerged from a war with Christians nor was it under the yoke of centuries of Christian conquest.

Saudi Arabia’s population was the target of colonial wars of manipulation not too long ago, and it’s now the “host” to 20,000 combat troops…mainly Christians.

One can see why the Serbians hate Islam, having endured it for centuries. This is not to condone hatred of Muslims, though, just the eradication of Islam.

One who reads your statements can see that you do not know anything about the situation. The Serbs in Bosnia were mainly immigrants (at one stage), mainly poor, and unhappy with the prosperity that native Bosnian Muslims had. The Serbians aren’t psychopaths obsessed with 500 years ago (as you imply)…they were upset for classic human reasons: they were poorer and less well off than their neighbors.

And the fact is, it’s still an example of genocide that outclasses anything Muslims have done to Christians in the 20th century. 200,000 dead, many more raped and tortured for being Muslim at the hands of an explicitly Christian army.

Your position is to make excuses for it, calling it “understandable.” That’s a morally bankrupt view that makes all your criticisms about Islam hollow. Now I remember why I stopped reading your posts.

 

[Rodrigo_Bivar]

Oopps, wrong, Saudi Arabia has never been under the occupation of any foreign troops. The US troops in Saudi were invited by the Saudis to defend it against Saddam and after Gulf War I there were only aircrew, not ground troops, to impose the UN no-fly zone over southern Iraq.

During Gulf War II the troops massed for the invasion and after that war the troops were progressively withdrawn. Today there are only about 500 US servicemen (mostly aircrew) left in Saudi.

You got your facts wrong, buddy. No US army was ever in Saudi to colonize it, unlike the Ottomans in Serbia.

And who did you think saved the Muslims from the Serbians and put the Serbian war criminals on trial? Not a single Muslim did that - but NATO.

The Serbs were there first in Serbia - They were slavic migrants mentioned by ancient historians - Ptolemy, Pliny and Tacitus looooong before Islam was invented by Muhammad.

The Serbs were Christianized in the 7th to 9th century and were part of the Byzantine empire. The so-called Bosnian Muslims were latter day converts after the Ottomans invaded in the 15th century - before that the Bosnians were Slav Christians.

In the 9th and 10th century, Bosnia was controlled by Serbia and Croatia.

You have completely twisted the facts.

 

[mercygate]

??? Putting up a Jewish synagogue would be a capitulation to Islam? How exactly???

Synagogue worship is a means of sustaining Judaism in the absence of the Temple. It was bred during the Babylonian captivity. The Temple mount should be the authentic seat of Jewish worship and should not be a compromise under the shadow of conquest.

 

[LilyM]

Synagogue worship is a means of sustaining Judaism in the absence of the Temple. It was bred during the Babylonian captivity. The Temple mount should be the authentic seat of Jewish worship and should not be a compromise under the shadow of conquest.

You mean the Temple should be rebuilt rather than a synagogue, I take it. But rebuilding the Temple requires the reinstitution of the Aaronic priesthood as well - no one else could serve in the Temple. Are there any Jews who can trace their descent back to him who can take that job on?

And remember that there were plenty of synagogues alongside the Temple in the time of Jesus - he himself worshipped at both the Temple and the synagogues. So in what way is a synagogue meant to replace the Temple ‘in its absence’ exactly??

 

[Karin]

Look around folks. No muslims are at your doorsteps, anywhere near you, or doing anything violent to silence you.

Umm…lets see my town has muslims…along with orthodox jews (makes for interesting times)…I also live about 10 minutes from NYC…so yeah I have muslims around me and even at times on my door step