Do you support Israel or Palestine?

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All I can say is “Wow.” I’ve never seen such ignorance and nonsense in my life. Each post is worse than the last. At the very least, have a look at Wikipedia!
 
Yeah except for the fact that Israel was explicitly founded as a homeland for the Jewish people. European states in contrasts are expected to open their borders and allow anyone in, in the process losing what made them German, Polish, French, or Italian.
 
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what about the non christian descendants? they don’t count? i don’t see where the verse is speaking spiritually. they took the land by force and not spirit.

bible scripture seems to have a different interpretation.
Hosea 3:4-5 - “For the Israelites will live many days without king or prince, without sacrifice or sacred stones, without ephod or idol. Afterward the Israelites will return and seek the LORD their God and David their king. They will come trembling to the LORD and to his blessings in the last days.”
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Isaiah 11:11-12 NIV - "In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea. He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth."
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Jeremiah 32:44 NIV - “Fields will be bought for silver, and deeds will be signed, sealed and witnessed in the territory of Benjamin, in the villages around Jerusalem, in the towns of Judah and in the towns of the hill country, of the western foothills and of the Negev, because I will restore their fortunes, declares the LORD.”
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It’s pretty simple. God made a covenant, that he would send a Messiah as the salvation of the Jews. That Messiah was Jesus. That some of them didn’t accept Christ as the Messiah and continue to bind themselves to the old covenant is their own choice, but it’s not what God asked of them. Jew or gentile, we are all called to follow Christ. There is no more distinction between the two.
 
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Israel and the Church

One of the disputes in Protestant circles is over the relationship between Israel and the Church and whether God still has a special purpose for the ethnic peop...
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" This indicates a special place for Israel, for no other people has a promise that there will always be a believing remnant. God also has future plans for the Jewish people: One day the Jewish people as a nation will return to Christ, and this will be one of the signs of the Second Coming and the resurrection of the dead"

So basically, they still have to turn to Christ.
 
Europa Universialis. I’ve tried to play it, wayyy too complex for me.
 
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" This indicates a special place for Israel, for no other people has a promise that there will always be a believing remnant. God also has future plans for the Jewish people: One day the Jewish people as a nation will return to Christ, and this will be one of the signs of the Second Coming and the resurrection of the dead"

So basically, they still have to turn to Christ.
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That sounds like a good reason for the pope to be in Jerusalem.
 
Nah, the Bishop of Rome needs to reside in Rome.

Having a Christian state rule the Levant under Catholic guidance would be ideal.
 
I’m not overly concerned with their opinion on the matter honestly.
 
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