Doctrine vs Dogma

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Dogma /Doctrine

A Dogma is a Doctrine infallibly taught by the Pope, using Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition as the source, and are irreversible.

The “Fundamentals” of Catholic *“Dogma” *

1.The Unity and Trinity of God
2.God the Creator
3.God the Redeemer
4.The Mother of the Redeemer
5.God the Sanctifier
6.The Catholic Church
7.The Communion of Saints
8.The Sacraments
9.Baptism
10.Confirmation
11.Holy Eucharist
12.Penance
13.Holy Orders
14.Matrimony
15.Extreme Unction
16.The Last Things
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each one of these are broken down if you go to the link below
theworkofgod.org/dogmas.htm

Doctrine
A Doctrine is a Catholic truth, that may or may not be infallibly taught, (“Dogmas" are infallibly taught) using any of three sources;
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(1) Christ’s public revelation (exp. the Real Presence of Christ in the Holy Eucharist.)
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(2) Theological conclusion* (exp. the canonization of a particular saint.)
**
(3) Natural law **(exp. the sinfulness of contraception.)
*All *the teaching in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, are “doctrines” and must be accepted with a religious submission of intellect and will, by all believers, including those parts *not *formally defined as dogma. Any truth, taught by the Church,“as necessary for acceptance by the Faithful” is “doctrine”.
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Doctrine:*
Taken in the sense of “the act of teaching” and “the knowledge imparted by teaching”, this term is synonymous with CATECHESIS and CATECHISM. Didaskalia, didache, in the Vulgate, doctrina, in the New Testament.

St Paul the Apostle insists upon “doctrine” as one of the most important duties of a bishop(1 Timothy 4:13, 16; 5:17; 2 Timothy 4:2, etc.).

St. Paul uses the word twice: “I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may instruct katecheso, instruam] others also” (1 Corinthians 14:19); and “Let him that is instructed ho katechoumenos, is qui catechizatur] in the word, communicate to him that instructeth to katechounti, ei qui catechizat] him, in all good things” (Galatians 6:6).

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Texan77 said:
I am actually looking for a Catholic explanation not the definition of each…
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I am so very sorry… I actually came on this thread and really did want to give you the answer but unfortunately I didn’t know it. But I do know this;

Doctrine is what is taught individually at individual churches (denominations).
And it seriously differs in every church.
Doctrines were not agreed on in the past and that is what cause the mass division and the consequential start of the “protest” that made protestant churches.
Because they argued about the catholic doctrines and didn’t come to an agreement. Roughly around the year 1023?
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jpy15026 said:
Dogma /Doctrine

A Dogma is a Doctrine infallibly taught by the Pope, using Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition as the source, and are irreversible.

The “Fundamentals” of Catholic *“Dogma” *

1.The Unity and Trinity of God
2.God the Creator
3.God the Redeemer
4.The Mother of the Redeemer
5.God the Sanctifier
6.The Catholic Church
7.The Communion of Saints
8.The Sacraments
9.Baptism
10.Confirmation
11.Holy Eucharist
12.Penance
13.Holy Orders
14.Matrimony
15.Extreme Unction
16.The Last Things
*
each one of these are broken down if you go to the link below
theworkofgod.org/dogmas.htm

Doctrine
A Doctrine is a Catholic truth, that may or may not be infallibly taught, (“Dogmas" are infallibly taught) using any of three sources;
**
(1) Christ’s public revelation (exp. the Real Presence of Christ in the Holy Eucharist.)
**
(2) Theological conclusion* (exp. the canonization of a particular saint.)
**
(3) Natural law **(exp. the sinfulness of contraception.)
*All *the teaching in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, are “doctrines” and must be accepted with a religious submission of intellect and will, by all believers, including those parts *not *formally defined as dogma. Any truth, taught by the Church,“as necessary for acceptance by the Faithful” is “doctrine”.
**

Doctrine:*
Taken in the sense of “the act of teaching” and “the knowledge imparted by teaching”, this term is synonymous with CATECHESIS and CATECHISM. Didaskalia, didache, in the Vulgate, doctrina, in the New Testament.

St Paul the Apostle insists upon “doctrine” as one of the most important duties of a bishop(1 Timothy 4:13, 16; 5:17; 2 Timothy 4:2, etc.).

St. Paul uses the word twice: “I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may instruct katecheso, instruam] others also” (1 Corinthians 14:19); and “Let him that is instructed ho katechoumenos, is qui catechizatur] in the word, communicate to him that instructeth to katechounti, ei qui catechizat] him, in all good things” (Galatians 6:6).

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How can a Sacrament which you say is dogma also be a doctrine, or am I not reading this correctly? ie. Sacrament Holy Eucharist Doctrine? Real Presence in the Holy Eucharist?
 
Zundrah said:
I am so very sorry… I actually came on this thread and really did want to give you the answer but unfortunately I didn’t know it. But I do know this;

Doctrine is what is taught individually at individual churches (denominations).
And it seriously differs in every church.
Doctrines were not agreed on in the past and that is what cause the mass division and the consequential start of the “protest” that made protestant churches.
Because they argued about the catholic doctrines and didn’t come to an agreement. Roughly around the year 1023?
😛
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Unfortunately this post is wholly inaccurate and obviously historically misguided.
 
jbelokur said:
Unfortunately this post is wholly inaccurate and obviously historically misguided.
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This is what I was taught on this site actually. But there are books on the subject if you really want an accurate answer…
 
Zundrah said:
I am so very sorry… I actually came on this thread and really did want to give you the answer but unfortunately I didn’t know it. But I do know this;

Doctrine is what is taught individually at individual churches (denominations).
And it seriously differs in every church.
Doctrines were not agreed on in the past and that is what cause the mass division and the consequential start of the “protest” that made protestant churches.
Because they argued about the catholic doctrines and didn’t come to an agreement. Roughly around the year 1023?
😛
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Can you give me examples of how doctrines vary from church to church?
 
Texan77 said:
Can you give me examples of how doctrines vary from church to church?
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Doctrines are the official teachings of a church. The ministers at that church must abide by them, correct?
In different denominations, the doctrines are different. That is mainly what divides them.
 
Zundrah said:
This is what I was taught on this site actually. But there are books on the subject if you really want an accurate answer…
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Zundrah, this thread is about Traditional Catholicism so I what I would like to know is the difference in the Catholic Church.
 
elts1956 said:
How can a Sacrament which you say is dogma also be a doctrine, or am I not reading this correctly? ie. Sacrament Holy Eucharist Doctrine? Real Presence in the Holy Eucharist?
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A Dogma is a “Doctrine”… infallibly taught by the Pope… using…Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition as the source, …and are irreversible.
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 A *Doctrine* is a Catholic truth, that may *or may not *be ...."infallibly taught",.....(“Dogmas"are infallibly taught)
*All *the teaching in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, are “doctrines” and must be accepted with a religious submission of intellect and will, by all believers, including those parts *not *formally defined as *dogma.

Any* truth, …taught by the Church,…“as necessary for acceptance by the Faithful”… is “doctrine”.

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“Doctrine” is the generic term for a religious statement about faith or morals. A doctrine can be true, or a doctrine can be false. A doctrine can be known to be true, or known to be false, or as a third possibility, the truth or falsity of a doctrine can presently be unknown.

A dogma is a doctrine which the Catholic Church has taught as being revealed by God and absolutely essential for true Christian belief. A heresy is a doctrine which the Catholic Church has taught as being absolutely contrary to true Christian belief.

Can. 750 §1. A person must believe with divine and Catholic faith all those things contained in the word of God, written or handed on, that is, in the one deposit of faith entrusted to the Church, and at the same time proposed as divinely revealed either by the solemn magisterium of the Church or by its ordinary and universal magisterium which is manifested by the common adherence of the Christian faithful under the leadership of the sacred magisterium; therefore all are bound to avoid any doctrines whatsoever contrary to them.
 
Dear jpy15026,
jpy15026 said:
A Dogma is a Doctrine infallibly taught by the Pope, using Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition as the source, and are irreversible.
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Dogmas are also infallibly pronounced by Ecumenical Councils, not just the Pope ex cathedra.

The ordinary Magisterium of the Church also teaches infallibly on matters (of faith/morals) which they are united.

Doctrine
A Doctrine is a Catholic truth, that may or may not be infallibly taught, (“Dogmas" are infallibly taught) using any of three sources;
**
(1) Christ’s public revelation (exp. the Real Presence of Christ in the Holy Eucharist.)
**
(2) Theological conclusion* (exp. the canonization of a particular saint.)
**
(3) Natural law **(exp. the sinfulness of contraception.)
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Don’t forget Sacred Tradition, which encompasses the three you mentioned, and more.

Blessings,
Marduk
 
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