Sadly, Catholics seem to be wanting to include non-Catholics so they use terms familiar to them; however, as we have witnessed here and in other instances, this fails since non-Catholics have a totally different understanding of the term/s.I really wish that Catholics would use the term ‘transubstantiation’ instead of ‘real presence’ when they are talking specifically about a concept that excludes the Lutheran and Calvinist Eucharist beliefs. Only symbolic Communion is considered outside of the definition of ‘real presence.’ But even these Christians believe that Jesus is truly present with them as they participate in Communion.
Why does it take years?But at that time of Augustine both of their views were accepted as orthodox. Right now Catholics disagree on many issues. One example is Mary’s title as co-redemptrix. Many Catholics think this title is fitting and use it. Others disagree. Both of these groups are orthodox Catholics and are in the same Communion. I am sure many of them even like what the other ones teach on a myriad of issues. But if in 100 years the Pope or a council declares that the title is fitting, then those who oppose this title would now be considered a heretic. These 2 groups of Catholics could no longer fully accept one another and be in the same Communion.
Could it be because you “Believe” in Jesus but not Believe Jesus?But with the Eucharist I see
wafer → ???
What is it? It is still a wafer by our world’s standards. All of the other miracles had a scientifically detectable change. This change is not detectable by science. But it is not just spiritual. What realm does it change in?
She probably holds St. John suspect in suggesting that God can make, out of stones, offspring to Abraham.Also, as susanlo is concerned about, what real change happens in the Eucharist that makes it more than symbolic?
Remember when Obama took office and some “Catholic” school “honored” him, how the letters “IHS” had to be covered so as not to “offend” the sensibilities of non Catholics?I am not understanding why the priest and your Mother had to be in private. If you had been able to take her to church you would have been able to witness her receiving.
…more so, that He is God and hence the Word that Became Incarnate.Could you detect with science that Jesus was God?
…so how do you determine that it was God-sourced?These stories could be true. That doesn’t mean that they were changed by the power of God. We would need to confirm the source of the miracle.
I ask God to stop the rain and wait till I’m home before releasing it–it happens!If they are a real miracle of God, why doesn’t this happen all of the time? It makes it look like God or man is failing all but 17 times.
Yet not one of them would eat/chew the Flesh nor drink the Blood; not even if “symbolically!”Jewsdid/do passover in unity while allowing some variance in understanding.
So St. Paul had it wrong; he insisted that there was One Body, One Spirit, One Baptism, One Gospel, One Lord, One God…Denominations are only an obstacle if one insists they are the only true Church.
…and I have been told by people in the choir, lectors, and other active members of various Catholic parishes that all religions lead to God, that Salvation is found without Christ, that homosexuals should not be impeded from being Catholics…"but look at your church here in our community and all the good you have done for people, all the people you have helped and the faithful witness you have given for a century now. " Seems like we were quite visible to her!
Well, the format was put out there… source, God–go ahead!Do you really need us to go there?
…where division is the norm, how could anything be seen as a division, does it not just get chucked up to “different?”We have many divisions in Protestantism, yet not sure we have declared a lawfullnees to communion views that would divide us (I might be able to participate in 28,000 of the 30,000 denominations’ communion?).
Could you be confusing cultural behavior with mandates from the Church?Yes perhaps now, after further decree, but apparently was common practice, by decree i think a while back.( before Vat II ?)…I am referencing a Melkite church in the area.