Does God call people to be separate from Catholic Eucharist

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I think you would do well to use Scripture to justify SS.

1 Corinthians 11
I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you.

2 Thessalonians 2:15

So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.

Paul specifically recognizes that not all Traditions to be held as Apostolic must be written.
 
Nope I listen to the Lords Voice, not some protastant crap or the many other denominations out there.
guanophore said:
While it is true that they carried the Word of God within them, and relied on the Spirit to tell them what to say, the main reason they did not carry a copy of the Scriptures is that they were bulky and expensive! They were copied by hand on parchment or sheepskin, and kept in scrolls, usually in a cool dry location. Travelling with such valuable documents that would have taken years to copy by hand was not reasonable.
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Already knew that, thank you for the unnessary history leason.

I plead the 5th on the agenda

Jesus Christ is Lord and savior and God alone.
 
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Because the intended meaning is flawed by the actual meaning that is desired to achieve: autonomy!

It is not really about finding authority in Scriptures; if that were the case then those who profess to believe so would not then dismantle the authority of Scriptures in favor of their founder’s/s’ and their own interpretation of Scriptures.

So it comes down to authority. Construct a “sola Scriptura” principle and you can remove/raze the Church’s Authority from the place that Jesus Delegated it.

So the true essence of sola Scriptura is not that the proponents adhere to Scriptures as their sole Authority but that they seek to remove the Church’s Authority from over them and become their own authority.

Luther was a Catholic Monk; as such, there were liberties which he could not take (as marrying after being Ordained a Priest) hence “sola Scriptura” affords him the authority to determine what and how to do things: remove the Church’s Authority and any person can be his/her own authority.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
Yet, divorced from the Succession of the Apostle, the only rule is the one that a person determines is “rule.”

Maran atha!

Angel
 
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Nope I listen to the Lords Voice, not some protastant crap or the many other denominations out there.
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And how do you discern that your perceptions are consistent with what the Lord’s Voice says?

If there were not different ways to understand the same Words, there would not be denominations.
feed_me said:
I plead the 5th on the agenda
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One has to wonder why you are on a Catholic site.
 
mcq72 said:
No, just that he cites a tradition, almost in command, that scripture is normative rule. ( and by this time, including Christian scripture).
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Actually not!

The Lord did not Command go and share the Scriptures; He Commanded go and Teach.

What you see as the Lord’s Rule is in absence of the Lord’s Rule!

Maran atha!

Angel
 
feed_me said:
You will have to find that out for yourself, i cant help you there.
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Ok. I will take that to mean that you really don’t have a good explanation about how you can tell the “voice” you are hearing is from God, and not yourself.

Perhaps I could phrase the question a little differently. If I told you I believed I was hearing the Voice of God, what criteria would you give me to determine of what I am hearing is authentic? How would you instruct me to determine if what I “heard” was from myself, or from the devil, or from God?

You keep advising people here to listen to the Voice of God, rather than “crap” from members of the Church. So how does one decide?
 
rcwitness said:
Im kinda surprised you are using Barnabus to support SS…
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I have in past…but here more to show that what apostles taught orally was pretty much captured in Scriptures that followed. So that to be apostoluc in teaching is to be Scriptural.

Actually perhaps was written by Barnabus to seperate truth from fictions, from fables, as Paul calls some teachings.
 
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rcwitness said:
Paul specifically recognizes that not all Traditions to be held as Apostolic must be written.
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Yes, but most believe Barnabus wrote later than Paul, when all Scripture had been penned, and was needed more to seperate from false teaching.
 
rcwitness said:
Who declared when all Scripture “had been penned”?
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The same folks who began to declare scripture as normative.

Look, Barnabus was not knocking offices and giftings, but certainly by his time he felt the bishop, and the universal church, should be biblical in his teachings, even protector of them, in truth and spirit.
 
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Do you know how the principle of Scripture, Tradition, and Magisterium works?

None can contradict one another
 
jcrichton said:
The Lord did not Command go and share the Scriptures; He Commanded go and Teach.
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Teach what? Is not the message, the precepts, found in Scipture ? Why do you separate what the Holy Spirit put in Scripture and what He puts on the preachers tongue or wants to write on every heart ?
 
rcwitness said:
Do you know how the principle of Scripture, Tradition, and Magisterium works?

None can contradict one another
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Well, Scripture was received long before us, even some traditions…I would think Scripture has not changed but for traditions , even magisteriums and their declarations, they are in flux. The Holy Spirit and Scripture hold the key for any tradition and magisterium to be in truth.

Not sure the reverse could be true.
 
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feed_me said:
1 John 4: 1-6
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Ok, so I believe Jesus is the Son of God come in the flesh.

I also believe that Jesus was born of Mary, an only Son, and that she had no other children.

I believe that the Pope is the successor of Peter, appointed by God.

I believe in infant baptism.

Are all the doctrines I believe “true” because I affirm that Jesus came in the flesh?
 
mcq72 said:
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rcwitness:
Do you know how the principle of Scripture, Tradition, and Magisterium works?

None can contradict one another
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Well, Scripture was received long before us, even some traditions…I would think Scripture has not changed but for traditions , even magisteriums and their declarations, they are in flux. The Holy Spirit and Scripture hold the key for any tradition and magisterium to be in truth.

Not sure the reverse could be true.
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Magisterium is not plural.
 
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