Does God call people to be separate from Catholic Eucharist

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jcrichton said:
Yet, all Calling must be the same Calling–God cannot Call me to be a member of His Family so that I recreate His Church or to be a member of His Body so that I can splinter it or to be His Witness to a different and splintered Family/Body.
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Yes, we each see each others barbs with which to justify our dogmatism towards our own comforting understanding and away from the other, even avoiding some meatier elements we share in common.

Only love can overcome this “curse” as in Beauty and the Beast (just saw the 1951 movie version).
 
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Yes, and the old status quo had to discern between seeing us Korah, whom God and Moses rightly judged, or as true prophets, whom the one true holder of faith , Israel, wrongly persecuted.

Or, as the young Elihu points out in Job, age should teach wisdom, but does not always, as in the case of Job’s older friends. Yet God can cut thru all the minutia and put understanding into the heart of a man, even a “newcomer”, as Elihu.
 
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This thread is super long so I admit I haven’t read it all and likely won’t be able to keep up. But I believe He does. I get His call to seek out a different church and after a few years of soul searching I was led to the one for me. I’ve never felt closer to God.
 
Well just a recap for you then, the Protestants are ahead in points, 18 to 12 is the score…don’t get too comfortable yet…lol…peace
 
YoungCatholicGuy said:
Catechism states:
The Holy Spirit will never call someone to leave the True Faith.

And:

To deliberately leave the Catholic Church freely, with full knowledge, in full freedom, if you are 100% aware it is the True Faith, Is a mortal sin.

And what does Pope John Paul say about the Catechism? ‘I put my Apostolic Authority on this work.’

End of discussion.
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I have great difficulty seeing why anyone would leave their church if he is 100% aware and convinced it is the True Faith.
 
Alex337 said:
This thread is super long so I admit I haven’t read it all and likely won’t be able to keep up. But I believe He does. I get His call to seek out a different church and after a few years of soul searching I was led to the one for me. I’ve never felt closer to God.
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Thanks for sharing. The bolded part concerns me. Does He lead people to different churches? Many claiming different teachings from Jesus?
 
rcwitness said:
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Alex337:
This thread is super long so I admit I haven’t read it all and likely won’t be able to keep up. But I believe He does. I get His call to seek out a different church and after a few years of soul searching I was led to the one for me. I’ve never felt closer to God.
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Thanks for sharing. The bolded part concerns me. Does He lead people to different churches? Many claiming different teachings from Jesus?
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I believe so. I believe that God in His infinite wisdom knows us each perfectly and finds us each a path that will best lead us to Him. We’re all of us unique people with our own foibles and ways we see the world. God knows this but still wants us to know Him, so he gives us many paths.

Teachings will differ from church to church, and that’s okay; they are just different ways of understanding the omnipotent.
 
I think different ways of understanding a Teaching is different than having opposing Teachings.
 
For me that is a faith in the divine, and how that is understood is different for each person.
 
I doubt I could turn His church into anything, I’m not omnipotent. And I’ve not felt closer to God than I have since I came to this understanding.
 
rcwitness said:
I think different ways of understanding a Teaching is different than having opposing Teachings.
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I think you have a valid point here. Really, what teachings of Jesus do the P’s have that oppose the C’s? The problem is when we insist that our own understanding of a Teaching is the only viable understanding.
 
Yes. And so the Church is in harmony with lawfulness, leadership, Tradition, and Scripture
 
rcwitness said:
Yes. And so the Church is in harmony with lawfulness, leadership, Tradition, and Scripture
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I am probably interrupting here, sorry if I am mucking up a conversation. If your post above was in reference to mine I have no idea what your saying for sure.
 
You mentioned how we have a tendency (inevitable) to insist that our own understanding is the only viable one.

Believe me, Catholics are no more immune to this than other Christians. Yet, Tradition, Magisterium, and Scripture help us to not base our faith on our own understanding, but allow These to deliver the Christian faith, and then our personal understanding of what is delivered comes from above.
 
Let me put this in a question I have consistently used in this thread.

What does your Church profess about divorce and remarriage, as Jesus Taught the disciples and Pharisees?
 
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