Does God call people to be separate from Catholic Eucharist

[OsculeturMeOsculo]

So Alex is a boy?

 

[SnowRose]

If a better translation appeared (such as ’virgin’=maid=young girl - it’s an example!) wanna bet you’d deny it, because it would run counter to 2000 years of your tradition and practice?

Thank you for proving my exact point. Apparently you see this as a virtue. Several images and suitable quotes spring to mind, but I’ll go make myself a coffee instead.

 

[Benadam]

What is it that was received? Oy vey. Yep a thousand years no Christisns… Sure.

 

[rcwitness]

Alex337:

Not really. You are making the claim yourself! It’s not just guess work on my part. You cannot simultaneously claim to be Christian while doubting Scripture to be free from error.

Not sure that disqualifies one…in fact I do not disqualify them when they would not side with sola scriptura, as Catholics do also…in fact they are a bit Catholic for they believe in other forms of revelation beside Scripture today.

I think they are less Catholic than mainline Protestant denominations.

In fact, I’m really surprised to hear a Protestant say this!

Catholics and Protestants agree that Scripture is inspired by God and inerrant in faith and morals. We rightly call Scripture the “Word of God”. In His sovereignty, He has guided and protected Scripture (especially in the Greek manuscripts) as He did before Christ, He has done in the New Testament.

 

[feed_me]

And do you think that God would make everything clear if he spoke to you or would he say 1 or 2 words and make you ponder over what he said?

1 corintheins 13:9

 

[rcwitness]

How about you feed_me, do you think that believing Scriptures are NOT the inerrant word of God by Quakers is closer to Protestants, than Catholics who rely on Tradition and Magisterium to interpret Scripture?

 

[guanophore]

I think you not understanding that mimicking is different to mocking

Perhaps you use this term differently than it is commonly used? It comes from the same word to “imitate”?

[mim-ik] v Origin Gk. mimikos

verb (used with object), mim·icked, mim·ick·ing.
to imitate or copy in action, speech, etc., often playfully or derisively.
to imitate in a servile or unthinking way; ape.

I also don’t think you know what “wilfully” means.

I supposed you meant that people did something on purpose? Or perhaps you use this word differently also?

Given you have also said that some Bible translations are incorrect, which is what I said, I guess you’re not Christian either.

This is an odd conclusion that does not seem to be logical. What does one thing have to do with the other?

Thank you for proving my exact point. Apparently you see this as a virtue. Several images and suitable quotes spring to mind, but I’ll go make myself a coffee instead.

I am not sure what your point was, but I am glad you got what you needed. Enjoy your coffee!

What is it that was received?

Divine Paradosis.

 

[guanophore]

Because I still follow Jesus. I left Catholicism, as I said before too many times, because God led me to.

God does not lead people opposite of what He has already revealed. You have surely been led away, and you surely believe it is Jesus. But everyone must follow their own conscience. If you have made a mistake, God will show it to you. Clearly He is the only one who can!

I follow Christ and was baptised. Am I Christian?

Your baptism joined you into the One Body, but what you follow now and believe is Christ is not Christian.

All I know is that your religion is compelling you to reject some important matters of the faith.

I think that @Alex337 is not compelled by the Quaker faith in anything. I think this is one of the draws of that community. One can espouse whatever beliefs are suitable for them, and still belong. Rather, it was a powerful personal experience that resulted in separation from the Catholic Church.

 

[rcwitness]

I think that @Alex337 is not compelled by the Quaker faith in anything. I think this is one of the draws of that community. One can espouse whatever beliefs are suitable for them, and still belong. Rather, it was a powerful personal experience that resulted in separation from the Catholic Church.

That is true. You can be atheist, pagan, Protestant, etc.

Sounds like a harlot…

However, I think it’s out of the scope of Protestant.

 

[rcwitness]

George Fox, founder of the Quaker religion, was raised Puritan.

 

[guanophore]

However, I think it’s out of the scope of Protestant.

Yes, I learned a lot about the Quaker faith from @Alex337 in this and other threads. I did not realize that the Quaker faith had drifted so far from Christian foundations.

 

[Benadam]

I think they are less Catholic than mainline Protestant denominations.

I agree with this. There is a reason we call Scriptures and Jesus the same Word.

 

[rcwitness]

Btw, @Wannano, I am not so anti-protestant as you worry sometimes.

I sent my daughter to a non-denominational Christian camp this week. They have Protestant speakers.

 

[BoyGenius]

See no spiritual effectual difference from a Baptist or Lutheran or Episcopal or pentecostal or Catholic communion. See no difference in the living/thriving spiritually that can be attributed to differing communion views.

Jesus is maintained through history, by the wellspring of Apostolic succession. That is our tie to Him. For He said to the Apostle’s (not the general audience): that He gives them the authority/power to bind and to let loose.

But even Saint Paul attributed to receiving the Eucharist in a way which someone places indignation on themselves, if they do not truly/really believe when receiving Him in His True Presence.

What about in Acts, the people who lied on a promise to give all their property for the Church? They died suddenly.

And hence, each reference is an Apostolic one. Christ is the High Priest. He is whom the legacy and mainstay of Tradition, Apostolic Legacy, is supported through Apostolic Tradition. Namely, as Mary said in Cana: “Do all that He tells you.”

Jesus is only in source, summit of the Holy Eucharist.

Are there other communions?

In a general sense, yes. But they are not the same, nor of the same quality. Nor of the same degree.

The Real Presence of Christ versus a fake presence, a pretended presence, spiritual, or a communion of intellect, etc.

The Church has Christ through Apostolic reign and succession. Every other denomination or non-denomination, or other Christian-like beliefs/traditions do not.

There are people who want a tolerant communion. Essentially a tolerance to all communions. Yet, that’s denying Christ, fully, as He is. He said, if you deny Him, you deny the Father. And if you deny the Apostle’s, then you deny Him.

Thus, to Sacred Order, each Christian-like belief that will not relinquish, let go, and let Christ in the Holy Eucharist reign by the One, Holy, Apostolic, Holy, and Catholic Church, is essentially excommunicated themselves from the Holy Sacrament. Jesus is not a liar.

 

[Alex337]

It’s the exact claim I made that you said means I’m not Christian. So I suppose you aren’t either.

 

[Alex337]

Sorry, friend, God did lead me away. and I believe Him over you.

 

[Cruciferi]

Nope. You strayed on your own volition. Thus, You accept the gravity of your decision and the consequences that are incurred.

2 Timothy 4:3

“For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.”

 

[Alex337]

Nope it’s okay of you don’t believe me. It was God and it was beautiful. I’ve never felt closer to Him.

It also wasn’t in line with my opinion at the time.

 

[rcwitness]

And what can you share of this incident other than some spirit you call beautiful led you away from the Eucharist?

 

[MichaelP3]

I sent my daughter to a non-denominational Christian camp this week. They have Protestant speakers.

Are you sure that is a good idea?