Does God Contradict Himself?

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TheQuestioner said:
As a young man around the same age of your son i can somewhat identify. Your son may be going through a transition phase if he is starting college. During this time there is a bit of anxiety about the uncertainty about his future. This can often lead to depression. When you talk to him, does he often talk about his career choice or school, or does he shy away from the subject? Maybe he does not like the particular field he will be studying. Maybe he is anxious about leaving home or not leaving home. Also that age in life seems to be the onset of mental disease. It is important to try to get him to trust in God in hard times. If he is not particularly religious don’t force him to be, but be there for him regardless. And the day he seems interested in God show him. Be there for him cause he needs your support.
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I think he feels lonely as he says. But I can’t figure out why He is very smart and very handsome. I pay all his bills, he doesn’t need to worry about anything. I only do this while he is in school. They are only cell phone and car insurance. (Okay, and credit card). But he is not functioning well. I feel it is the medication and trying to speak to his doctor. I don’t think he needs anything really. It’s gotten to be a domino effect. I tell him God is always with him, but his answer is always the same. “Then, where is He”?
 
Doxiemom said:
The answer to your prayer may not be at all what you expect it to be, but it will be an answer that is best for the child. For you do not know the future, Nor can you comprehend eternity.

“be still and know that I AM God”
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I will not forget you… I have carved you on the palm of my hand.

That’s a good one.

I’m sorry OTCA.
 
Everyone here has been so kind and I really appreciate it, really. A special blessing for all of you. I just feel bad for our youth. It is so simple for a doctor to give out medication, and with this privacy law in which, as a parent I don’t like it because we can’t help our kids if we do not know what is wrong with them, and we can’t see what the doctor’s are doing because they won’t speak to us about our child’s conditions. I will continue to monitor him and keep telling him I love him and I will always be there for him. I hug him and kiss him when he feels down. I buy him encouragement cards and small things that make him smile.
I will continue to pray more, sometimes I feel like I am going insane from praying so much. What else would God want from me at this point?😦
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
Everyone here has been so kind and I really appreciate it, really. A special blessing for all of you. I just feel bad for our youth. It is so simple for a doctor to give out medication, and with this privacy law in which, as a parent I don’t like it because we can’t help our kids if we do not know what is wrong with them, and we can’t see what the doctor’s are doing because they won’t speak to us about our child’s conditions. I will continue to monitor him and keep telling him I love him and I will always be there for him. I hug him and kiss him when he feels down. I buy him encouragement cards and small things that make him smile.
I will continue to pray more, sometimes I feel like I am going insane from praying so much. What else would God want from me at this point?😦
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You have my greatest sympathy. I myself suffered from anxiety and depression to the extent that I had to take a year off work. I was just about 40 when it happened. I was fortunate to finally get a psychiatrist who was able to come up with the right combination of medications for me and I have been back at work for 14 years.

From experience I know how important supportive parents and family are in a situation like this.

I can’t understand why his doctor will not talk to you unless your son doesn’t want him to do so. My doctors talked to my parents and I was older than you son.

I will keep you both in my prayers.
 
SyCarl said:
You have my greatest sympathy. I myself suffered from anxiety and depression to the extent that I had to take a year off work. I was just about 40 when it happened. I was fortunate to finally get a psychiatrist who was able to come up with the right combination of medications for me and I have been back at work for 14 years.

From experience I know how important supportive parents and family are in a situation like this.

I can’t understand why his doctor will not talk to you unless your son doesn’t want him to do so. My doctors talked to my parents and I was older than you son.

I will keep you both in my prayers.
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SyCarl, thank you for your courage in telling me this. But my son hasn’t even been in the world yet. He’s really had no life experiences to get on any drug. I understand life isn’t easy at our age, but 20?
 
Your son is in my prayers, OTCA.

Sometimes, it has nothing to do with life experiences, but biochemistry instead. A good physician will try to dig and find the root cause instead of just treating the symptoms.

As far as suffering… God never promises that we won’t suffer. He promises that we will never be alone, and the He always has the last word.
Lord Jesus Christ, Good Shepherd of the sheep,
you gather the lambs in your arms and carry them in your bosom:
We commend to your loving care this child.
Relieve his pain, guard him from all danger,
restore to him your gifts of gladness and strength,
and raise him up to a life of service to you.
Hear us, we pray, for your dear Name’s sake. Amen.
Pax vobiscum,

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O.S.Luke said:
Your son is in my prayers, OTCA.

Sometimes, it has nothing to do with life experiences, but biochemistry instead. A good physician will try to dig and find the root cause instead of just treating the symptoms.

As far as suffering… God never promises that we won’t suffer. He promises that we will never be alone, and the He always has the last word.
Lord Jesus Christ, Good Shepherd of the sheep,
you gather the lambs in your arms and carry them in your bosom:
We commend to your loving care this child.
Relieve his pain, guard him from all danger,
restore to him your gifts of gladness and strength,
and raise him up to a life of service to you.
Hear us, we pray, for your dear Name’s sake. Amen.
Pax vobiscum,

O+
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Thanks Luke, but I find myself over and over counting the Blessings he’s bestowed on me, but I wished he’d take away all of them for the sake of having my son get well. My son did get up today and took a long shower. Believe me, that’s good…but not enough. Please God.
 
Hello?

I just found this and thought that I should reply.

I have suffered from depression and anxiety for around 10 years and have an understanding of how difficult it can be to live with (for both the person suffering from it and for those close to them). I have also been recently diagnosed with a neurological disorder as well.

I guess that the first thing to understand is that depression is very different to being depressed in that there doesnt have to be a reason for it to start/happen, it just happens. There are many times that I wake up in the morning and I just cant get out of bed to face the world even though nothing has actually happened to trigger it. It is a disorder rather than an emotion.

Another thing to understand is that unless you have experienced it, you cant understand how it feels and people shouldnt really expect you to either. That isnt meant as a critisism, it is just the truth.

Family support is very important and I do understand that it is VERY frustrating watching someone going through this, but they do need your help (it can be an idea to take a break from them sometimes).

This disorder has cost me a marriage and friends, without my spouse and children (who are VERY supportive) frankly I would be dead.

From what I understand things in the US are quite different to things in Australia, but treatment is still important. It is important to find the right psychiatrist for the person, dont be affraid to change if you are not happy with the treatment.

Its also important to remember that someone has to want treatment for it to be effective.

Medication is a touchy subject, we have to remember that not all medications effect everyone in the same way. What is good for one person may be counter productive for someone else. There are many professionals that over prescribe but that isnt true of many professionals. Sometimes it may look that way because they are trying to find the right medication or combination of medications that work.

Side effect are a pain in the rear and can vary in potency and effect. For me I get hand tremmors that make it entertaining signing my name at banks or drawing a straight line (or paint or sculpt), profound sweating even in winter (which make me look sus in shops), occasional intense tooth aches that dont go away, stuttering (lthough that could be from the illness) and others.

You should never go off medication as that can be quite deangerous (if you want to know what a junkie feels like who is craving their drug, then be my guest). If you dont want to take the medication, the best thing to do is slowly ween yourself off it.

Blood tests a nothing to be afraid of, they help to ensure that the levels are correct. I have been on Lithium for around 4-5 years with no problems, researching the medication is also a good idea.

always let your son know that you love him and you are there for him, sometime people can forget because the illness can make you self absorbed. Talk to the collage, maybe full time study is too much for him and take things slowly.

Oh yeah, encourage him to avoid alcahol. It really doesnt help (trust me).
 
Depression and anxiety can be terrible burdens; I am not much older than your son at all, and though I have not been diagnosed with any sort of clinical depression I can attest that unfortunately age and experience, or lack of either, does not seem to make much of a difference in how easily one can get depressed, as I have experienced…depression doesn’t seem to depend on horrible life experiences and a large accumulation of losses, but rather how we react to them and perceive them. Even a person with a seemingly great and sheltered life is sometimes just less inclined to easily bear his seemingly “trivial” hardships that someone else would happily trade their own troubles for. Sometimes this may be a clinical thing, but other times it may just be the difference in different people’s emotional make up. It is one of life’s persistent, unhappy mysteries, and I am very sorry to hear that your son is on the least fortunate side of this mystery.

My prayers will be with you and your son, and please trust that God is as well. Let us also pray together that your son may nurture a deep love for God that will be of some comfort, even if only trusted rather than emotionally known, in even his most depressed moods.

Blessings in Christ,
KindredSoul
 
KindredSoul said:
Depression and anxiety can be terrible burdens; I am not much older than your son at all, and though I have not been diagnosed with any sort of clinical depression I can attest that unfortunately age and experience, or lack of either, does not seem to make much of a difference in how easily one can get depressed, as I have experienced…depression doesn’t seem to depend on horrible life experiences and a large accumulation of losses, but rather how we react to them and perceive them. Even a person with a seemingly great and sheltered life is sometimes just less inclined to easily bear his seemingly “trivial” hardships that someone else would happily trade their own troubles for. Sometimes this may be a clinical thing, but other times it may just be the difference in different people’s emotional make up. It is one of life’s persistent, unhappy mysteries, and I am very sorry to hear that your son is on the least fortunate side of this mystery.

My prayers will be with you and your son, and please trust that God is as well. Let us also pray together that your son may nurture a deep love for God that will be of some comfort, even if only trusted rather than emotionally known, in even his most depressed moods.

Blessings in Christ,
KindredSoul
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Listen. Just a few days ago I went before the Blessed Sacrament and pleaded to God. I said out loud “Lord, I stand before you as Eric” (my son). “I ask that you heal me in your name”. that night I went to sleep and dreamed an angel said to me “Your son will be alright. The worst is over. Continue to give Glory to God”. I felt elated. Well low and behold, we were at the mall shopping and eating lunch the next day as if he were alright. Right now he is out with his rriends. I just hope this lasts and I trust in God. He loves my son.
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
Listen. Just a few days ago I went before the Blessed Sacrament and pleaded to God. I said out loud “Lord, I stand before you as Eric” (my son). “I ask that you heal me in your name”. that night I went to sleep and dreamed an angel said to me “Your son will be alright. The worst is over. Continue to give Glory to God”. I felt elated. Well low and behold, we were at the mall shopping and eating lunch the next day as if he were alright. Right now he is out with his rriends. I just hope this lasts and I trust in God. He loves my son.
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Praise be to God for an answered prayer! May He continue to bless your son with better days! 🙂

Blessings in Christ,
KindredSoul
 
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