Does God love Satan?

[Anathama_Sit]

Sounds hard to believe but this is also accurate, according to exorcists. Again I quote from Jose Antonio Fortea:
“… demons remain essentially good and loved by God… Sin ultimately leads to the condemnation of those who remain unrepentant, but this does not mean God hates sinners.”

Father Fortea also quotes a demon who was possessing a girl. The mother was furious at the demon. The demon responded, “You can’t get rid of me with hate.”

Lisa, before, I would have agreed with what you say as well, but I read up on it from exorcists who have expertise at demonology and I learnt a lot.

Anathema Sit, you really know your stuff. By any chance, are you also getting this from reading Fortea or Amorth? If not, could I know what your sources are? I’d like to learn more too.

Greetings PazzoGrande,

I am actually pulling this from several sources. I have read Fortea and Amorth. Much of what they have written I include in response to posts such as these. Some of the time I also pull from the Summa if needed. I am also pulling the fact that Satan and the demons are ontologically good from Church Tradition and a bit of philosophy as well.

I also know some exorcists as well. I have also had the blessing of working with them as well.

I have some other volumes that I have been reading in studing demonology. When I can get them all together, I shall send them to you in Personal Message. I cannot find anything right now, too many books are out, and my bookshelves are nearly empty because they are all over the house. I am also interested in what you have read, have you just confined your reading to Fortea and Amorth?

God Bless.
Anathama Sit

 

[PazzoGrande]

Greetings PazzoGrande,

I am actually pulling this from several sources. I have read Fortea and Amorth. Much of what they have written I include in response to posts such as these. Some of the time I also pull from the Summa if needed. I am also pulling the fact that Satan and the demons are ontologically good from Church Tradition and a bit of philosophy as well.

I also know some exorcists as well. I have also had the blessing of working with them as well.

I have some other volumes that I have been reading in studing demonology. When I can get them all together, I shall send them to you in Personal Message. I cannot find anything right now, too many books are out, and my bookshelves are nearly empty because they are all over the house. I am also interested in what you have read, have you just confined your reading to Fortea and Amorth?

God Bless.
Anathama Sit

Actually I started off with The Rite by Matt Baglio (excellent book; I haven’t seen the movie version but I read that it took too many liberties with the actual story and is practically unlrelated), and from there I got Fortea and Amorth books. I also have a book by Malachi Martin but I’ve only skimmed it so far, I’ll read it more thoroughly when I have the time. I have to admit though that I found a couple of fishy things with Fortea. Fortea speaks of the Antichrist as a figure that will come in the future, whereas as I understood it, it meant Nero. Fortea and the mentor-priest in Baglio’s book also differ on whether or not a condemned soul can possess (Fortea says they can, Baglio’s book says they can’t).

I read a book called The Vatican’s Exorcists by Tracey Wilkinson, and, well… don’t bother.

After this, I probably won’t be reading much more about demonology and go back to the kinds I read before that (like hagiographies and Vatican politics). I don’t wanna overconcentrate on it, although oddly enough learning about demons only helped me with my sprituality. That is, unless if you have anything good you could recommend.

I’ll shoot off a private message to you too. Fortunate that I got to meet you!

 

[Anathama_Sit]

Actually I started off with The Rite by Matt Baglio (excellent book; I haven’t seen the movie version but I read that it took too many liberties with the actual story and is practically unlrelated), and from there I got Fortea and Amorth books. I also have a book by Malachi Martin but I’ve only skimmed it so far, I’ll read it more thoroughly when I have the time. I have to admit though that I found a couple of fishy things with Fortea. Fortea speaks of the Antichrist as a figure that will come in the future, whereas as I understood it, it meant Nero. Fortea and the mentor-priest in Baglio’s book also differ on whether or not a condemned soul can possess (Fortea says they can, Baglio’s book says they can’t).

I read a book called The Vatican’s Exorcists by Tracey Wilkinson, and, well… don’t bother.

After this, I probably won’t be reading much more about demonology and go back to the kinds I read before that (like hagiographies and Vatican politics). I don’t wanna overconcentrate on it, although oddly enough learning about demons only helped me with my sprituality. That is, unless if you have anything good you could recommend.

I’ll shoot off a private message to you too. Fortunate that I got to meet you!

Greetings PazzoGrande,

I had forgotten to mention that I did read The Rite. Don’t bother watching the movie, complete waste of time, unless you like to watch movies for special effects.

I don’t think a condemned soul can possess, but that’s pretty unknown. I don’t know how to rectify it with the doctrine that humans dying go to either of three places, heaven, hell, or purgatory.

I hope to meet you elsewhere on the forum too.

You are free to send a Personal Message anytime.

God Bless.
Anathama Sit

 

[SanAgustin]

I still would like to see if somebody has some insight into Aquinas’ view on this subject, and at least in some sense maybe contradict himself (which really is more of me not understanding everything he’s saying than anything ).

Again, to recap in the Summa, Second Part of the Second Part Q25 : Article 11 we find;

newadvent.org/summa/3025.htm#article11

**Article 11. Whether we are bound to love the demons out of charity?

I answer that, As stated above (Article 6), in the sinner, we are bound, out of charity, to love his nature, but to hate his sin. But the name of demon is given to designate a nature deformed by sin, wherefore demons should not be loved out of charity.**

BTW article 6 clarifies that we ought to love sinners out of charity, article 11 takes that to the extreme taking that idea all the way to demons.

Article 6 clarifies that that love for the sinner is justified in their nature, as they have a capacity for happiness.

I answer that, Two things may be considered in the sinner: his nature and his guilt. According to his nature, which he has from God, he has a capacity for happiness, on the fellowship of which charity is based, as stated above (3; 23, 1,5), wherefore we ought to love sinners, out of charity, in respect of their nature.

Now, as we posted before, Aquinas answers the question of “Whether God loves all things?” in Question 20, Article 2;

I answer that, God loves all existing things. For all existing things, in so far as they exist, are good, since the existence of a thing is itself a good

; and likewise, whatever perfection it possesses. Now it has been shown above (Question 19, Article 4) that God’s will is the cause of all things. It must needs be, therefore, that a thing has existence, or any kind of good, only inasmuch as it is willed by God. To every existing thing, then, God wills some good. Hence, since to love anything is nothing else than to will good to that thing, it is manifest that God loves everything that exists. Yet not as we love. Because since our will is not the cause of the goodness of things, but is moved by it as by its object, our love, whereby we will good to anything, is not the cause of its goodness; but conversely its goodness, whether real or imaginary, calls forth our love, by which we will that it should preserve the good it has, and receive besides the good it has not, and to this end we direct our actions: whereas the love of God infuses and creates goodness.

Now, I think his Reply to Object 3 clarifies the demon/devil situation;

Reply to Objection 3. Friendship cannot exist except towards rational creatures, who are capable of returning love, and communicating one with another in the various works of life, and who may fare well or ill, according to the changes of fortune and happiness; even as to them is benevolence properly speaking exercised. But irrational creatures cannot attain to loving God, nor to any share in the intellectual and beatific life that He lives. Strictly speaking, therefore, God does not love irrational creatures with the love of friendship; but as it were with the love of desire, in so far as He orders them to rational creatures, and even to Himself. Yet this is not because He stands in need of them; but only on account of His goodness, and of the services they render to us. For we can desire a thing for others as well as for ourselves.

I think what is confusing me is what Aquinas means by “love out of charity”, it almost seems to be that he’s qualifying love with some type of relationship;

. The possession of everlasting happiness is not impossible for the angelic mind as it is for the mind of a demon; consequently the friendship of charity which is based on the fellowship of everlasting life, rather than on the fellowship of nature, is possible towards the angels, but not towards the demons.

But when I read the quote “God does not love irrational creatures with the love of friendship; but as it were with the love of desire, in so far as He orders them to rational creatures, and even to Himself.”, it seems that Aquinas is trying to clarify the different types of love possible, and that maybe God does love the demons and the devil in a way that is unique to Him and perhaps not possible for us.

Looking forward to comments, if anybody has any ideas as to how these articles on the summa go together to answer this question. Looking forward to the replies!

 

[PazzoGrande]

The bible says to hate evil. You say we are not to feel hatred.
Who do I believe, the bible or Father Fortea?

Please will you quote from the bible where it says that God does not hate demons?

Obviously within context, I meant we are not to feel hatred toward the sinner. I wrote that the “Love the sinner, hate the sin.”

Let me put it this way. We agree that you are to love the sinner but hate the sin. Demons are also sinners. They differ from us in that they now are not redeemable.

Don’t love the demons in the sense that you’d wanna hang out with them and befriend them because they are only going to do bad to you. But hatred for God’s creation is apparently not God’s way.

You’re free to have a different opinion, but I trust the knowledge of people who have expertise in this. I would trust Fortea to explain because he is a priest, he studied theology, and I can’t find anything in the Bible that specifically says that God hates demons. He hates what they do, but they are His creations just as much as we are.

You’re welcome to prove this wrong.

And again, until recently, I would have agreed with you. But I understand how it works better now.

 

[SanAgustin]

Anybody care to comment on this question with regards to what St. Thomas wrote about love and charity?

 

[Evoken]

Anybody care to comment on this question with regards to what St. Thomas wrote about love and charity?

It is really not quite clear what your question/doubt is on this issue.

• Humans, even when they sin, have a nature that is good and capable of happiness.
• Demons are turned invariably towards evil and their nature is such as to have no capacity for happiness.

It is possible for us to hate the sin and love the sinner out of charity when it comes to humans but not when it comes to demons.

God loves all existing things in so far as it is by his love that they have being, and demons, even if turned invariably towards evil, have themselves being, which of itself is a good. It is in this way that they are loved by God.

 

[SanAgustin]

It is really not quite clear what your question/doubt is on this issue.

• Humans, even when they sin, have a nature that is good and capable of happiness.
• Demons are turned invariably towards evil and their nature is such as to have no capacity for happiness.

It is possible for us to hate the sin and love the sinner out of charity when it comes to humans but not when it comes to demons.

God loves all existing things in so far as it is by his love that they have being, and demons, even if turned invariably towards evil, have themselves being, which of itself is a good. It is in this way that they are loved by God.

Quite simply, then why can’t (or shouldn’t) we love demons like God loves all existing things as we’re called to be “perfect like your heavenly father”?

 

[Evoken]

Quite simply, then why can’t (or shouldn’t) we love demons like God loves all existing things as we’re called to be “perfect like your heavenly father”?

They could be loved as far as their enduring being and natural goods goes, as St. Thomas states:

Summa IIb q. 25 a.11
“Secondly, we love a thing as being that which we desire to be enduring as another’s good. On this way we love irrational creatures out of charity, in as much as we wish them to endure, to give glory to God and be useful to man, as stated above (Article 3): and in this way too we can love the nature of the demons even out of charity, in as much as we desire those spirits to endure, as to their natural gifts, unto God’s glory.”

But we are not to love them with the same love we have for men, whereby we wish them eternal bliss, for such is not possible for demons. Thus they are not our neighbor and so the second commandment does not relates to them.

 

[Anathama_Sit]

Quite simply, then why can’t (or shouldn’t) we love demons like God loves all existing things as we’re called to be “perfect like your heavenly father”?

Greetings SanAgustin,

We can love them in the manner of loving them that God wishes for us to love them in ONLY by and through His Grace alone.

God Bless.
Anathama Sit

 

[Lisa44]

I have already given quotes from the bible to support my position.
I think the issue boils down to this - I think the devil and demons are evil and have no goodness in them.
Others here are arguing that the devil and demons are still capable of being good and therefore we should love them.

I feel that Satan is personified evil in the sense that he is 100% evil.

Why? Because he is without God and he is completely shut off from God’s grace. And because he chose to be evil, it was his own decision. And he works for evil, and he is the producer of evil in this world.

I am sticking with the bible on this one.

I do not love Satan, nor do I think it makes any sense to love Satan.
I don’t think he was created to be loved. And I don’t think God loves Satan.

If anyone can prove that God loves satan THROUGH scripture, then I will listen.
Or if anyone can prove with the bible that God wants me to love Satan, then I will listen.

Otherwise, you have a different theology than I do. Because I go with the bible first and theologians second. So quoting a Priest or theologian isn’t going to change my mind. If support for your argument cannot be found in the bible.

 

[Ghosty]

Quite simply, then why can’t (or shouldn’t) we love demons like God loves all existing things as we’re called to be “perfect like your heavenly father”?

I addressed this in post #39, perhaps you missed it. We can love demons with charity, just not with friendship. Evoken has also just answered this difficulty the same way. Aquinas tends to make subtle distinctions in his answers, and they usually aren’t either/or. He’s saying that we can love demons with charity in a certain aspect, but not another.

Peace and God bless!

 

[Lisa44]

I think this article is excellent and it supports its argument with the bible.

Question: “Does God love Satan? Since we are to love our enemies, does that mean we should love Satan?”

Answer: One of the most precious statements in all of Scripture is “God is love” (1 John 4:8). But in our limited human understanding, we sometimes believe this means that God loves everyone and everything all the time. This is not so, because the Bible also tells us that God hates many things. He hates idolatry (Deuteronomy 12:31, 16:22; Psalm 31:6) because the worship of false gods robs Him of the praise and glory that belong to Him alone. Proverbs 6:16-19 tell us that God hates seven things: a proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that plots wicked plans, feet hurrying to run to evil, a false witness who speaks lies, and he who causes fighting among brothers. God also hates divorce (Malachi 2:16).

Because God is holy and perfectly righteous, He hates with a pure, holy, righteous hatred. He cannot do otherwise. Neither can He love that which is evil and unholy, and Satan embodies all of that. He is the enemy (1 Peter 5:8); the evil one (Matthew 6:13); the father of lies and a murderer (John 8:44); the accuser of God’s people (Revelation 12:10); the tempter (1 Thessalonians 3:5); proud, wicked and violent (Isaiah 14: 12-15); a deceiver (Acts 13:10); a schemer (Ephesians 6:11); a thief (Luke 8:12), and many, many more evil things. He is, in fact, everything that God hates. The heart of Satan is fixed and confirmed in his hatred of God, his judgment is final, and his destruction is sure. Revelation Chapter 20 describes God’s future plan for Satan and love has no part in it.

It is only because we are “partakers of the Divine nature” (2 Peter 1:4) that we are able to love God and others, even our enemies. In our natural (unsaved) state, we are only able to act according to our fallen natures because we belong to the evil one. When we come to Christ in faith, God gives us a new nature (2 Corinthians 5:17)—His righteous and holy nature—and we are then able to love with His love which He has put into our hearts. Then we love that which is good and pure and holy, just as God loves, and we hate sin and evil, just as He hates it. He tells us to love our enemies so that they will repent and turn to Him while there is still time in this age of grace. But Satan will never turn to God and repent, and therefore God will never love him.

Because Satan is the embodiment of evil and everything that is antithetical to the God we love, we cannot love Satan. When Jesus tells us to loves our enemies and pray for those who persecute us (Matthew 5:44), He is referring to other people. We pray for them to come to know God through faith, to believe in Christ and be saved from their sins. We are never told to pray for Satan because there is no chance of his salvation. He does not need faith because he has seen God, knows God and has rejected Him. Therefore, the enemies we love and pray for do not include Satan.

So does God love Satan and should we love him? The answer is absolutely, without a doubt, no. God has already declared the end and demise of Satan in the Bible: “And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever” (Revelation 20:10). God has already determined that there will be no forgiveness for Satan; there will be absolutely no chance of him coming into God’s presence, and the sacrificial love God shows for His children is out of the reach of Satan. Even if it were within his grasp, Satan would spurn it just as he spurned God’s rule in heaven.

Recommended Resource: The Difficult Doctrine of the Love of God by D.A. Carson.

From: gotquestions.org/does-God-love-Satan.html

 

[Flyingg]

I like your questions, they are cute , you ask them in the titles and the descriptions go like ‘‘does he’’ , well ‘‘do they’’.

As for the question I voted Yes, I don’t believe in gods or devils, but supposing God exists, I think an intelligent being would love all his creatures, and just to add, when I was a little, I used to pray for Satan to come back to God lol loving the unlovely!

 

[tonyrey]

I do not love Satan, nor do I think it makes any sense to love Satan.
I don’t think he was created to be loved. And I don’t think God loves Satan.

Who created Satan? What was he created for?

 

[PazzoGrande]

Who created Satan? What was he created for?

I found a biblical quote pertaining to God loving creatures in general:

Wisdom 11:24-25
For you love all things that are and loathe nothing that you have made; for what you hated, you would not have fashioned. And how could a thing remain, unless you willed it; or be preserved, had it not been called forth by you?

And well, Lisa, I find it funny that you’d go for a protestant theologian over a Catholic one, but well, fine. We’ll never find a bible verse that specifically answers this and I find it to be a waste to overdebate on a topic like that. We cited our sources, you cited yours, and we each choose which ones we prefer, and that’s all I’d reply to you about this because frankly I think the temperature in here is running a little high. It’s silly to use Scripture to get irritated by each other.

 

[tonyrey]

I found a biblical quote pertaining to God loving creatures in general:

Wisdom 11:24-25
For you love all things that are and loathe nothing that you have made; for what you hated, you would not have fashioned. And how could a thing remain, unless you willed it; or be preserved, had it not been called forth by you?

Irrefutable logic in an ancient scripture from a primitive tribe!

 

[Anathama_Sit]

Greetings Lisa44,

I have already given quotes from the bible to support my position.
I think the issue boils down to this - I think the devil and demons are evil and have no goodness in them.

You are Catholic, why are excluding what Sacred Tradition says about this that others have pointed out to you?

Others here are arguing that the devil and demons are still capable of being good and therefore we should love them.

You are failing to see the different between being ontologically good and morally good. Again a creature’s ontological goodness comes from the fact that God created them out of love, for love, and in love. When he had created everything in creation, it said that God looked and said That it was good. This was before the fall of angels and of man.

Now morally good, I am sure you know what that means.

I feel that Satan is personified evil in the sense that he is 100% evil.

Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition, and the Magisterium of the Catholic Church have said repeatedly that nothing can be personified evil. If you wish to believe depsite what has been said, then you are more than free to do that.

Why? Because he is without God and he is completely shut off from God’s grace. And because he chose to be evil, it was his own decision. And he works for evil, and he is the producer of evil in this world.

This is not a definition of evil. I would encourage you to figure out what “evil” means according to Sacred Scripture, AND Sacred Tradition AND the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. No one is termed evil, they do evil acts.

I am sticking with the bible on this one.

I hate to say this, but the Bible does not contract Sacred Tradition or the Magisterium of the Church.

I do not love Satan, nor do I think it makes any sense to love Satan.

This is where you are, I can accept that. Just don’t use the Bible to justify where you are when clearly the Bible does not argue for nor agree with the position that you are taking.

I don’t think he was created to be loved. And I don’t think God loves Satan.

Again through the writings of the Church, God created both Angels and Man to have Union with Him. He however gave each of His Angels and Men free will to either choose or reject that Union with God. God does love Satan. Thank Goodness, that what we think does not define Ontological reality, the fact that God loves Satan and all of us. That is why He is God and we are not.

If anyone can prove that God loves satan THROUGH scripture, then I will listen.

Are you sure you are Catholic? This sounds more like a Protestant statement. Where do Church Tradition and the Magisterium of the Catholic Church fit in with your beliefs?

Otherwise, you have a different theology than I do.

Your theology sure does not sound like Catholic theology.

Because I go with the bible first and theologians second. So quoting a Priest or theologian isn’t going to change my mind. If support for your argument cannot be found in the bible.

Fair enough. I can only present the truth with God’s grace and that is all I can do.

God Bless.
Anathama Sit

 

[Anathama_Sit]

I think this article is excellent and it supports its argument with the bible.

Question: “Does God love Satan? Since we are to love our enemies, does that mean we should love Satan?”

Answer: One of the most precious statements in all of Scripture is “God is love” (1 John 4:8). But in our limited human understanding, we sometimes believe this means that God loves everyone and everything all the time. This is not so, because the Bible also tells us that God hates many things. He hates idolatry (Deuteronomy 12:31, 16:22; Psalm 31:6) because the worship of false gods robs Him of the praise and glory that belong to Him alone. Proverbs 6:16-19 tell us that God hates seven things: a proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that plots wicked plans, feet hurrying to run to evil, a false witness who speaks lies, and he who causes fighting among brothers. God also hates divorce (Malachi 2:16).

Because God is holy and perfectly righteous, He hates with a pure, holy, righteous hatred. He cannot do otherwise. Neither can He love that which is evil and unholy, and Satan embodies all of that. He is the enemy (1 Peter 5:8); the evil one (Matthew 6:13); the father of lies and a murderer (John 8:44); the accuser of God’s people (Revelation 12:10); the tempter (1 Thessalonians 3:5); proud, wicked and violent (Isaiah 14: 12-15); a deceiver (Acts 13:10); a schemer (Ephesians 6:11); a thief (Luke 8:12), and many, many more evil things. He is, in fact, everything that God hates. The heart of Satan is fixed and confirmed in his hatred of God, his judgment is final, and his destruction is sure. Revelation Chapter 20 describes God’s future plan for Satan and love has no part in it.

It is only because we are “partakers of the Divine nature” (2 Peter 1:4) that we are able to love God and others, even our enemies. In our natural (unsaved) state, we are only able to act according to our fallen natures because we belong to the evil one. When we come to Christ in faith, God gives us a new nature (2 Corinthians 5:17)—His righteous and holy nature—and we are then able to love with His love which He has put into our hearts. Then we love that which is good and pure and holy, just as God loves, and we hate sin and evil, just as He hates it. He tells us to love our enemies so that they will repent and turn to Him while there is still time in this age of grace. But Satan will never turn to God and repent, and therefore God will never love him.

Because Satan is the embodiment of evil and everything that is antithetical to the God we love, we cannot love Satan. When Jesus tells us to loves our enemies and pray for those who persecute us (Matthew 5:44), He is referring to other people. We pray for them to come to know God through faith, to believe in Christ and be saved from their sins. We are never told to pray for Satan because there is no chance of his salvation. He does not need faith because he has seen God, knows God and has rejected Him. Therefore, the enemies we love and pray for do not include Satan.

So does God love Satan and should we love him? The answer is absolutely, without a doubt, no. God has already declared the end and demise of Satan in the Bible: “And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever” (Revelation 20:10). God has already determined that there will be no forgiveness for Satan; there will be absolutely no chance of him coming into God’s presence, and the sacrificial love God shows for His children is out of the reach of Satan. Even if it were within his grasp, Satan would spurn it just as he spurned God’s rule in heaven.

Recommended Resource: The Difficult Doctrine of the Love of God by D.A. Carson.

From: gotquestions.org/does-God-love-Satan.html

Greetings Lisa44,

Sorry he is a Protestant theologian. He does not work from the light of Sacred Tradition and the Magisterium of the Catholic Church.

There is so much wrong that this theologican [if indeed he is worthy of that title] says. Yet if you are convinced of your position, that nothing will change your mind except for the grace of God. I pray that you will receive the light of faith.

This article does not support your position in the bible, because the Bible does not say nor agree with your position, which is an incorrect interpretation of the Bible.

God Bless.
Anathama Sit

 

[Lisa44]

I found a biblical quote pertaining to God loving creatures in general:

Wisdom 11:24-25
For you love all things that are and loathe nothing that you have made; for what you hated, you would not have fashioned. And how could a thing remain, unless you willed it; or be preserved, had it not been called forth by you?

…

I appreciate your attempts to use scripture to support your position.
Unfortunately, these verses from the Wisdom of Solomon do not demonstrate that God loves Satan. For one thing, they are about God’s love for mortals. And secondly, a few sentences after the one you quote, it says the complete opposite.

The wisdom of Solomon 12:3-11
“Those who lived long ago in your holy land you hated for their detestable practices, their works of sorcery and unholy rites, their merciless slaugher of children, and their sacrificial feasting on human flesh and blood. These initiates from the midst of a heathen cult, these parents who murder helpless lives, you willed to destroy by the hands of our ancestors, so that the land most precious of all to you might recieve a worthy colony of the servants of God. But even these you spared, since they were but mortals, and sent wasps as forerunners of your army to destroy them little by little, though you were not unable to give the ungodly into the hands of the righteous in battle, or to destroy them at one blow by dread wild animals or your stern word. But judging them little by little you gave them an opportunity to repent, though you were not unaware that their origin was evil and their wickedness inborn, and that their way of thinking would never change. For they were an accursed race from the beginning, and it was not through fear of anyone that you left them unpunished for their sins.”

These verses, as I am sure you know, are about God’s patience in dealing with sinful mortals. It then goes on to say that since God is the only God, there is no one to criticize his judgement. I don’t want to draw parallels to Satan because these verses deal with mortals, but it is fair to say that when God judged Satan and cast him down to hell, his justice was righteous.