Does interest in sex reduce spirituality?

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In context, you can be considered correct.

Sex outside of marriage is considered wrong and a you’re creating a huge schism between you and God.
Marriage is a direct relationship between a Man, a Woman and God…which is why sex needs to be within the context of Marriage.
If not, it’s a rejection of God.

Besides…I believe sex between a husband and wife is a prayer to God. If done correctly you are asking God to bless you with His greatest blessing…a new life.

Babies are a VERY good thing! 😃
Babies are, and should always be, the direct result of a loving, physical relationship between a husband, wife and God.

Simply enough…we are told to be “fruitful and multiply.” That is the first commandment.

Can’t do that without plenty of sex!
 
Look at all the sexuality in the media. My contention is that focusing on these stimuli will undermine spirituality. Why is this so hard to accept? Same is true for sexual relationships: The greater the focus on sex, the less spiritual.
 
Look at all the sexuality in the media. My contention is that focusing on these stimuli will undermine spirituality. Why is this so hard to accept? Same is true for sexual relationships: The greater the focus on sex, the less spiritual.
You are referring to a distorted understanding of sexuality and an improper use of it. Of course it is best to avoid these things.

However, a proper understanding of sexuality and the proper expression of it in a marital relationship is life-affirming, faith-affirming and the greatest way we can cooperate with God’s will as we can assist Him in bringing new human life and eternal souls into the world.
 
Look at all the sexuality in the media. My contention is that focusing on these stimuli will undermine spirituality. Why is this so hard to accept? Same is true for sexual relationships: The greater the focus on sex, the less spiritual.
Are you equating erotic sexuality in the media to sexuality as expressed in a loving marital relationship? I believe they are not the same form of expression. Rather than detracting from spirituality and holiness, loving sexual expression is itself a holy, spiritual act according to Jewish belief, particularly Hasidism.
 
Are you equating erotic sexuality in the media to sexuality as expressed in a loving marital relationship? I believe they are not the same form of expression. Rather than detracting from spirituality and holiness, loving sexual expression is itself a holy, spiritual act according to Jewish belief, particularly Hasidism.
Are contraceptives OK in Hasidism?

I’m more of a monk in that I despise anything sexual. I also despise the media and try to distance myself from it.I’m practicing keeping a part of my mind on God at all times. I desire nothing but getting myself to Heaven.
 
Are contraceptives OK in Hasidism?

I’m more of a monk in that I despise anything sexual. I also despise the media and try to distance myself from it.I’m practicing keeping a part of my mind on God at all times.
I don’t think monks despise anything sexual. In fact, I would venture to say that they revere marital sex in accordance with their catholic faith.
 
I don’t think monks despise anything sexual. In fact, I would venture to say that they revere marital sex in accordance with their catholic faith.
I believe monks actively suppress sexual desire to the point where the sexual urge becomes an ‘enemy’ that a monk must wage war on.
 
Are contraceptives OK in Hasidism?

I’m more of a monk in that I despise anything sexual. I also despise the media and try to distance myself from it.I’m practicing keeping a part of my mind on God at all times. I desire nothing but getting myself to Heaven.
Jewish Law does permit the use of certain forms of hormonal birth control, such as birth control pills and injections, but not the use of contraceptive devices such as condoms, except in rare cases. Vasectomies are forbidden.
 
I think all has been said that needs to be said. Today’s culture, as pretty much every culture in human history, generally portrays a twisted form of sexuality. This is not surprising given man’s propensity to sin and to take what is good and make it bad and see what is evil as good.

Sexuality is to be used properly as any gift given to us by God. Within a marital relationship it most certainly helps bring couples closer to God; as I said before it is the only time where we as men and women are co-creators with Him! I can think only of the Eucharist as a more intimate connection with God.
 
I find that my sexual relationship with my husband has not only been very beneficial in our relationship, but it also has greatly helped with my relationship with God. Sex within the right context (marriage) and with the right attitudes attached to it is a wonderful way we submit to the Lord and his plan for our sexuality. Not to mention it is God’s plan to bring new life into this world. Without sex no you, no me, no people. God created our bodies to be able to reproduce and He did it for a reason.
 
Sex is really a primitive desire that can interfere with spirituality.

Our society is loaded with messages that sex is great. This draws an huge amount of attention toward feeding the libido with inner images and thoughts of sex.

I contend that sex is not that great and that interest in sex drastically reduces the attention available for prayerful thoughts and inner images.

“If you don’t stop it you’ll go blind” is very realistic in a spiritual sense.

Learning to eliminate the desire for sex at an early age is most beneficial for both spiritual and religious success. Similarly, anything that occupies human attention, like television and computers, is the cause of spiritual death.
“If you don’t stop it you’ll go blind” can be unnecessarily shaming, in a spiritual sense…and shame, put in the place of an appropriate sense of guilt for real sins, is a weapon in the arsenal of the devil.

St. Paul didn’t say that those who were on fire ought to just take a cold swim and cut it out. He recommended that they marry. Then in the letter to the Ephesians he famously made a very favorable comparison between a husband and his wife with Christ and his Church. As he so succinctly put it “Indeed, I wish everyone to be as I am, but each has a particular gift from God, one of one kind and one of another”
1 Cor. 7:7 Those who can realize the gift of chastity without marriage must not so lack generosity of heart that they come to imagine that their kind of chastity must be the only gift there is!

I like the way C.S. Lewis imagined the devil would look at this issue (from Letter 19, The Screwtape Letters…boldface mine, of course).

"…*You complain that my last letter does not make it clear whether I regard being in love as a desirable state for a human or not. But really, Wormwood, that is the sort of question one expects them to ask! Leave them to discuss whether “Love”, or patriotism, or celibacy, or candles on altars, or teetotalism, or education, are “good” or “bad”. Can’t you see there’s no answer? Nothing matters at all except the tendency of a given state of mind, in given circumstances, to move a particular patient at particular moment nearer to the Enemy or nearer to us. Thus it would be quite a good thing to make the patient decide that “love” is “good” or “bad”. If he is an arrogant man with a contempt for the body really based on delicacy but mistaken by him for purity—and one who takes pleasure in flouting what most if his fellows approve—by all means let him decide against love. Instill into him an over-weening asceticism and then, when you have separated his sexuality from all that might humanize it, weigh in on him with it in some much more brutal and cynical form.

If, on the other hand, he is an emotional, gullible man, feed him on minor poets and fifth-rate novelists of the old school until you have made him believe that “Love” is both irresistible and somehow intrinsically meritorious. This belief is not much help, I grant you, in producing casual unchastity; but it is an incomparable recipe for prolonged, “noble”, romantic, tragic adulteries, ending, if all goes well, in murders and suicides. Failing that, it can be used to steer the patient into a useful marriage. For marriage, though the Enemy’s invention, has its uses. There must be several young women in your patient’s neighborhood who would render the Christian life intensely difficult to him if only you could persuade him to marry one of them. Please send me a report on this when you next write. In the meantime, get it quite clear in your own mind that this state of falling in love is not, in itself, necessarily favorable either to us or to the other side. It is simply an occasion which we and the Enemy are both trying to exploit. Like most of the other things which humans are excited about, such as health and sickness, age and youth, or war and peace, it is, from the point of view of the spiritual life, mainly raw material.*
 
I guess God is allowed to bestow His blessings on those He choses:Married partners can receive God’s grace and spiritually through sex. I’m single, and have seldom dated. I no longer desire sex.
 
I tend to agree with the general premise here. I do wonder if we can ever truly approximate what God meant sex to be…Not since Adam and Eve have we really been free and able to love like God loves us. Our world is filled with perversions. Do any of us really understand what “holy sex” even is? I know I don’t. I know I will never in this life have that experience. My chances were spoiled before I was even aware of what sex was, really. I don’t know how to tell my sons about this, either. I have zero knowledge to pass on. All I can tell them is to stay pure and chaste. I know that what I did were all the wrong things.

If I ever were widowed I would happily take a vow of chastity for the rest of my life.
 
Look at all the sexuality in the media. My contention is that focusing on these stimuli will undermine spirituality. Why is this so hard to accept? Same is true for sexual relationships: The greater the focus on sex, the less spiritual.
I think the discussion shows how important sex is to people 😃

I agree with what you are saying: focus on sex can indeed reduce spirituality. I am a married woman and I have a ‘normal’ sex life - I want to stress this so I’m not accused of being a heretic or of suffering from some form of dysfunction.

I believe that sex can be such a powerful force that has the power to occupy a person to the extend that all else becomes subordinate to it. If a person constantly needs sex and constantly thinks and talks about it, such focus will take over other things.

The church teaches that fasting - which can include sex- increases the life of the spirit. Eastern orthodox for example abstain from sexual relations during Lent as a part of their fasting. Obviously there is a benefit to that. I also have experienced that less focus on sex makes it easier for me to focus on prayer.
 
It may be heretical thinking in Judaism, but not in the Catholic Church where sexual abstinence is demanded of clergy, and often encouraged with lay people. In the New Testament there is a passage that actually states that a person is better off if he/she abstains from sex.

“But I say to the unmarried, and to the widows: It is good for them if they so continue, even as I.”
-1 Corinthians 7:8
You’ve changed the entire context of the above statement by ignoring the two prior verses:

“6 But this I say by way of concession, not of command. 7 Yet I wish that all men were even as I myself am. However, each man has his own gift from God, one in this manner, and another in that.”

Paul is saying that he HOPES that people can be like him, but its NOT a command from God - and he acknowledges that some are to marry and have sex.

He also later notes: "17 Only, as the Lord has assigned to each one, as God has called each, in this manner let him walk. " Another translation that I think is even more clear has “17 However that may be, each one must order his life according to the gift the Lord has granted him and his condition when God called him.”

So I think by focusing on just one verse, you’ve changed the meaning. A LOT.
 
I tend to agree with the general premise here. I do wonder if we can ever truly approximate what God meant sex to be…Not since Adam and Eve have we really been free and able to love like God loves us. Our world is filled with perversions. Do any of us really understand what “holy sex” even is? I know I don’t. I know I will never in this life have that experience. My chances were spoiled before I was even aware of what sex was, really. I don’t know how to tell my sons about this, either. I have zero knowledge to pass on. All I can tell them is to stay pure and chaste. I know that what I did were all the wrong things.

If I ever were widowed I would happily take a vow of chastity for the rest of my life.
I disagree with the premise because the subtle functionality of sex is clearly highly important to the human mind. What God created we know today is MUCH deeper than what we would have thought even 50 years ago.

I agree with Paul. Different people are given different gifts and called in different ways.
 
Ironic that this thread is in the “Family Life” subforum.
I think the OP was brave enough to go looking for an answer in a place that might enlarge his thinking. If you’re looking for a place people with experience who have realized any spiritual profit that came to them intrinsically connected to their sex drive, this is it!

I think that points something out: It is vitally important to keep an interest in sex in the context the Church keeps it. You can’t consider the spiritual value of sex without considering the spiritual value of being a wife and a mother or a husband and father. That is the context of sex. Sex and a total openness to the demands of marriage and family go together. If the two are separated, then you’re no longer considering sex in its appropriate spiritual context. Sex only finds its spiritual meaning within the context of the greater whole to which it belongs.
 
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