Does logic draw a line in your faith?

[MalachiM]

You are repeating yourself but not answering the objection, only criticizing me as irrationally stubborn.
The statement was:

The person says that he accepts “each individual claim made therein.”
This is not possible to do without contradiction as I have pointed out, There are many other contradictions .

Since you’re referring to me, let me point out that there are no contradictions in the bible, only what you choose to perceive as contradictions. I made a statement. I didn’t ask you to believe what I believe, although, the invitation has always been there for you. You can choose to have the Lumen Fidei, or you can choose not to. I can’t argue my beliefs to any extent that will convince you.

 

[cfauster]

You can choose to have the Lumen Fidei, or you can choose not to.

The quote above states an important truth: faith in a Creator is needed in order to view the natural world as creation, as the work of a Creator.

Religious and non-religious scientists work together on doing science without conflict. The former views such work as a calling, a vocation, as one way to praise God by using one’s gifts of curiosity and knowledge to learn more about the creation. The latter also exercises such gifts and also discovers new knowledge about the natural world, but does not regard the natural world as the work of a Creator.

The scientific knowledge we have, and the scientific knowledge we lack (recognized as open, unanswered questions in science) neither prove nor disprove the existence of a Creator.

We all benefit by having an increasingly informed and accurate scientific understanding of the natural world. If one views the natural world as a creation, one’s scientific understanding also can have important implications for one’s understanding of the Creator. I find two things important to remember, however, when it comes to drawing lessons about the Creator from scientific understanding of the creation:

1. The fundamental issues seem rather timeless, and essentially the same across millennia. We still live our lives without provable answers to important perennial questions asked by people of all generations.
2. We don’t need proof in order to trust in God. God has provided sufficient means, but not proof, for such trust. Our faith can be informed by science, in that its doctrines concerning the creation should be consistent with what we can know via science about the natural world, but grace through faith in Christ comes by means other than science.

 

[cfauster]

As support of this:

CCC 390 The account of the fall in Genesis 3 uses figurative language, but affirms a primeval event, a deed that took place at the beginning of the history of man. Revelation gives us the certainty of faith that the whole of human history is marked by the original fault freely committed by our first parents.

Here is a CAF thread from last fall focused on the matters so wisely addressed by CCC 390 quoted above.