Does Modern Society Unfairly Portray the 1950s?

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Any form of government depends on its leaders. While the US has many problems history shows that monarchies have been led by some less than ideal people.
Now if you would just put me in as ruler for life…just kidding. We just have to do the best with what we’ve got.
 
LilyM said:
Nothing objectionable? No Honeymooners glorifying and making a joke of the horror that is domestic violence? No white men in black face minstrel shows passing off crude racial stereotypes as entertainment? No June Cleaver insisting that it’s not good enough for women to simply do all the housework, but they’re falling short as women if they don’t glam it up in pearls and heels the whole while as well?
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Oh, I’m sure there were objectionable things. I’m just relating personal experience. I didn’t know anyone who dressed in blackface or experienced domestic violence. None of the neighbors seemed to argue much, none of the kids I knew were subjected to corporal punishment. Most of the wives worked as did the husbands. The kids had to help out with the household chores. I did worry about nuclear war sometimes, but mostly ignored such things. Nobody I know took June Cleaver seriously; it was just TV. Nobody we knew dressed like that for everyday liife. None of the neighbors were divorced. There were no violent gangs.
 
Ah yes. My parents’ home having a ‘may not sell to coloreds’ restriction when they bought it, the University of Michigan marching band being the “200 marching men from Michigan” – no women allowed. The inability to get credit in one’s own name without spousal approval (only for women). The halcyon days of yesteryear.
 
repentant2 said:
It’s called an anecdote from data gathered from personal experience. Go through the social media of your average young woman. Every other post is nihilistic and hopeless. That goes for most young men as well.
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You’re assuming that the posts accurately reflect real life. People post things that they wouldn’t say, they react in ways they wouldn’t react, etc.
Rather than keep children at home until they’re married and reinstate monarchy, I’d start by shutting down social media sites.
 
LilyM said:
Nothing objectionable?
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There has been sin in every era of life. There was good and bad in the 1950’s, just like every other era. Not every family was victimized by domestic violence then anymore than every family is victimized by domestic violence today. It is a horrible thing that happens in some families and always has and sadly always will. There is definitely more help for women today and the justice system certainly responds much better against domestic violence than they did in the 1950’s but hitting one’s wife has been illegal in the US since the 1920’s.

I can also think of some shows today that glorify physical violence against husbands, which unfortunately doesn’t get much attention except laughter.
LilyM said:
No June Cleaver insisting that it’s not good enough for women to simply do all the housework
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JimG said:
Nobody I know took June Cleaver seriously; it was just TV. Nobody we knew dressed like that for everyday liife
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People tend to equate June Cleaver with the 50’s but the show didn’t air until late 1957. It was more of an early 1960’s show as it lasted until June of 1963 and the reruns played through the 1960’s, not the 1950’s.

It is the same thing with the Donna Reed show. People tend to want to make it a 1950’s show but it did not air until late 1958 and lasted until 1966 with the reruns playing through the 1960’s, not the 1950’s.

Speaking of women who were wives and mothers in the 50’s and early 60’s, I have met quite a few and listened to their stories, and I hate to see them go because one thing I learned from them, is how important their marriage, home and family was to them…
 
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Being “trapped” is a Leftist fantasy. Afraid of being trapped in marriage? Don’t get married. Get the job you like. Move, if you want to. In the 1950s, a strong work ethic was taught, along with self-discipline. People knew what worked and what didn’t. Options were “limited” to good, workable options. We didn’t engage in “accidental Living.” ‘Oh, I’m in a terrible relationship.’ How did you get there? You didn’t actually get to know the person you got involved with. That’s smart? That’s “modern”?
 
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“women standing up for themselves” You know what that means? Crazy fake Leftist moves like “Guys, we’re going to show up at your health club after we found out it’s all guys.” Yeah, so? OR “We’re going to work in the ‘male dominated’ meat cutting industry.” Want to cut up animal carcasses for 40 hours a week? Go for it. Oh, how non-heroic. Girls showing up at the all-guy gym. Or women hefting 100 pound, or more, animal parts… yeah… victory… put it on the news. Oh, wait. No death or killing. Never mind.
 
“increased knowledge”? No way. You went to the library and read books for free. Now people are sitting and getting fat and they think they got knowledge? No way. Put in the wrong search terms and google will spit out the wrong answers. All 1.5 million of them.

Regarding the faith. Diligent study is required. No one is stopping anyone. That’s why parents are homeschooling.
 
Something I read the other day that I think (somewhat) fits this thread - if you’re looking through rose-tinted glasses, then all the red flags are simply flags. For certain parts of society, the 1950s was a good time. For others it just wasn’t.

The point that ‘if the 1950s had been some kind of utopia, the 1960s wouldn’t have happened as they did’ is very apt, IMO.
 
Lou2U said:
Something I read the other day that I think (somewhat) fits this thread - if you’re looking through rose-tinted glasses, then all the red flags are simply flags. For certain parts of society, the 1950s was a good time. For others it just wasn’t.

The point that ‘if the 1950s had been some kind of utopia, the 1960s wouldn’t have happened as they did’ is very apt, IMO.
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Nope. It was perfect, and all the people who wanted to change literally anything about it were not only wrong but deliberately so and were trying to destroy the world, Bond villain-style.

Oh no why did I enter this thread
 
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Modern society unfairly portrays every time period.

99% of the period is forgotten and a few scatterings of stereotypes remain.
 
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The Vietnam War created the 1960’s mindset

The 1950’s culture was a culture that wanted certitude in what they believed, i.e. government and religion.

Any challenge to that certitude was challenged by the 60’s generation

Jim
 
Sarcelle said:
Good one Lea. How was the 1950s in Singapore?
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We didn’t have independence yet, so there were political tensions regarding that. Stuff like dealing with communists, riots etc. We’re a new country and thankfully we caught up and surpassed many countries quickly though. Singaporeans weren’t prosperous then, clearly.

There was a feminist movement here as well that got stronger after some women were apparently inspired by a war heroine (ww2). Women were working in factories then, so they focused on ensuring child care for the kids. Many women were left helpless because of divorces so early feminists worked on providing counselling.

They also tried to stop polygamy and unfair divorce laws (men could leave easily, women couldn’t). Muslims helped played a part in changing the attitudes towards polygamy as well, which is a lesser known fact. As it is accepted in Islam, they had to figure out ways to convince each other monogamy was the way to go.

Polygamy seemed to be the main focus for feminists here, which is different from the US. I think the 60s+ helped pushed equality along more quickly once we gained independence. Women could vote along with men since it’s compulsory for all of us. While women were still seen as inferior, political/economic equality was achieved quicker than one would expect, although obviously attitudes like women not being allowed in certain meetings were still there.

As for race, Singapore is a land of immigrants of many cultures so we didn’t have a bloody history like the US (no slavery, jim crow). There were riots here and there in the past, but it’s mostly politically charged.

The 1950s overall is a pretty odd time i think. We weren’t taught much of this since we weren’t independent yet. Singaporeans were mostly focused on building itself up at the time. It wasn’t hell though, people weren’t always miserable. They got along pretty well.
 
It also means getting the right to vote… as I’ve said before, it’s one thing to reject the extremes of modern feminism, but to reject all forms of the movement over the past century would be pretty radically hardline conservative.
 
Yep in the topsey turvey world is which we are now living, that sounds about right!
 
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Please don’t post fiction. The Vietnam War didn’t create anything. Radicals and anarchists appeared in our neighborhoods to promote perverted sex, illegal drugs and don’t listen to mom, dad or the Church. After the war, you think any of that changed?
 
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Stop implying I lied, i.e. “fiction.”

The Vietnam War certainly did create a skepticism against Government and politicians that didn’t exist before. When people learned about how we were lied to by the politicians as they were bombing the North, and then again in Cambodia, there was a distrust created like never before.

If you think this didn’t happen, then you didn’t live during the 60’s in the USA.

Jim
 
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