Does Modern Society Unfairly Portray the 1950s?

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edwest211 said:
Are you shocked by anything today? Is anything worth being shocked about today?

I understand the correct charge of racism but racism is gone now? Arson stopped against the reframed “people of color”? Don’t make the mistake of believing that the issues of the past just disappeared today.
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Ed if you aren’t shocked by sin and evil then there is something wrong with you. And yes there were times past that were as bad as today. The late stages of the Roman Empire come to mind.

And no, people of colour seem not to be quite as badly off as they were. Have you forgotten you just had an African American president? That would have been inconceivable in the 50s.
 
Well the point is that “conservative” and “progressive” are very relative terms. You seem to accept that the progress that led to the 1950s was good, but all progress since the 50s has been evil. It just seems arbitrary. A conservative living in 1890 would have decried you and your 1950s contemporaries as radical progressives… dangerous even… supporting a woman’s right to vote and all that.

Of course some “progress” has been evil.
 
Try as they might, no one can deny history. Actual, documented history. Anecdotal? No. We didn’t go from the 1950s to today by accident.
 
And ALL of the people living in those neighborhoods wrote the deed restrictions?
 
JulianN said:
You know, I lived in those neighborhoods, and that didn’t happen in them. Why do you assume your own anecdotal experience is somehow sociological fact?
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Don’t you know that your experiences never actually happened, but Ed’s experiences were universal and are all perfectly remembered?
 
No one here was alive in 1890. No point there. Stick to the 1950s. Progressives today are mostly for evil things. The end.

And back to a woman’s right to vote. Stick with the 1950s.
 
Inconceivable? Do you subscribe to the calendar fantasy? That the date on the calendar is the most important thing? In 1960, should John Kennedy, a Catholic, even considered running for President due to the prejudice against Catholics at the time? Have you heard of WASPs or White Anglo-Saxon Protestants? They were the bad guys in the 1950s. I doubt White Anglo-Saxon Protestants just disappeared one day.

I admired candidate Obama. As President, he went downhill. He was obviously not up to dealing with entrenched and moneyed interests. As a person, I saw that he could only take so much. I can sympathize only to a point.
 
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edwest211:
And ALL of the people living in those neighborhoods wrote the deed restrictions?
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I do not say that. Did they all agree to them by purchasing the property? Yes, they did.
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A little off topic, but it’s really not that simple. There are so many considerations when choosing a place to live that you have to make trade-offs.
 
Oh, I understand that. But the policies themselves were racist – institutionalized within our laws. My parents bought a house in 1965 and it still had that restriction in place.
My point is that the 1950s were not some halcyon time in our history – particularly for people who were not white, or who were female, etc.
 
Let’s see. I want to buy insurance from a company that supports things I’m against. I need insurance. I have few other choices. If I want to buy a house, what are my choices?
 
JulianN said:
Oh, I understand that. But the policies themselves were racist – institutionalized within our laws. My parents bought a house in 1965 and it still had that restriction in place.
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Way back in…I’m guessing the 1940s, my grandfather was denied a mortgage because there was a black family living in the same block where the house was that he wanted to buy.
 
Now you’re advancing a propaganda agenda.

Today is totally fair to everybody, yes or no? The 1950s were great. Were some people being treated unfairly and badly, yes. Was that the entire population? No. Put some balance into your argument.

Can poor people get affordable housing today? Why not?
 
False. History tells everyone willing to read it otherwise. The Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. was leader of the Civil Rights Movement in 1955. How is that possible?
 
edwest211 said:
False. History tells everyone willing to read it otherwise. The Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. was leader of the Civil Rights Movement in 1955. How is that possible?
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I’m not sure what you’re even trying to say anymore, Ed. If the 50s were so great, why did we even need a civil rights movement?
 
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edwest211:
False. History tells everyone willing to read it otherwise. The Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. was leader of the Civil Rights Movement in 1955. How is that possible?
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I’m not sure what you’re even trying to say anymore, Ed. If the 50s were so great, why did we even need a civil rights movement?
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Communists, radicals, and anarchists, I assume.
 
repentant2 said:
feminism is a disease.
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I think it is an economical and political tool, whether the feminists realize this or not. The aim is to get more citizens to work. Because people are a capital for economy as long as they work in some people’s view. There are loans that countries make in the name of this capital. And the one who lends asks - who will pay for this in how much time? And the govt replies - in X years Y people who are already employed. So the more people are employed the bigger the credit gets and on a more extensive amount of time. So it is very productive to count both men and women as a working (as in employed) force for both the creditor and the debtor. I fear in some near future they will say “who is the worker?” And the reply will be " men, women and children." If I am correct than this is why there is such an attraction for decades to.convince kids to want independence, not care much for school, and want to have money to spend on their own, as soon as possible. A very horrid and dishonest way to so business and to build an economy if you ask me. Very pharaoh like. All work so the pyramid gets big.
May God protect us from our own greed!
 
Each generation has its own problems…it’s no good trying to blame one from another…and it depends on your age in each generation…I grew up in the 50s-60s…in Australia…had a great childhood…hiking…biking… sports…the beach etc…never heard of drugs…or gays…transgenders etc…good wholesome TV and movies…learned the 3r’s at school…that was it…so like I said…it was a great time…it may have even been different here in the US for kids…it was probably different for adults no matter where in the world…I can’t say as I wasn’t an adult back then…so it probably depends on who you ask about the 50’s and 60s…for me it was great
 
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