Does pre-marital sex in any way serve the common good of society?

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Does pre-marital sex in any way serve the common good of society?
 
Offhand, I can’t think of any way that pre-marital sex would promote the common good. But I am willing to discuss the matter (just in case its a trick question).

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so then it would make sense for us as a society - the government, not just the Church - to discourage pre-marital sex, right? I mean, as a public policy issue.
 
urban-hermit said:
so then it would make sense for us as a society - the government, not just the Church - to discourage pre-marital sex, right? I mean, as a public policy issue.
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Oh I like this idea…but it aint ever gonna happen!
 
urban-hermit said:
Does pre-marital sex in any way serve the common good of society?
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Young people wouldn’t tolerate a marriage age of 25 odd if pre-marital sex wasn’t an option. So we could say it delays the age of marriage.
This has some pretty profound implications for education, economic structure, salaries, housing, and so forth. Some are good, some are bad. It is very difficult to say what would happen if the typical marriage age was brought forward to around 18.
 
Malcolm_McLean said:
Young people wouldn’t tolerate a marriage age of 25 odd if pre-marital sex wasn’t an option. So we could say it delays the age of marriage.
This has some pretty profound implications for education, economic structure, salaries, housing, and so forth. Some are good, some are bad. It is very difficult to say what would happen if the typical marriage age was brought forward to around 18.
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then perhaps we need to teach the youngsters some morals & values!
 
No, in fact, premarital sex is bad for society. It results in STDs and unwanted pregnancies.
 
In order to answer the question one must first ask what it does for or to souls. Society is made up of individuals who have spiritual nature. If individuals are damaged the society is damaged.
 
urban-hermit said:
so then it would make sense for us as a society - the government, not just the Church - to discourage pre-marital sex, right? I mean, as a public policy issue.
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Yes, it does.

Okay, I am uninformed about this topic. Isn’t an abstinence message included in most sex education classes?
 
Dale_M said:
Okay, I am uninformed about this topic. Isn’t an abstinence message included in most sex education classes?
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Nope, our (in my town) public schools do not teach it.
But darn-it if the kids dont know how to put a condom on a banana:eek:
 
Evidently my children have strong sex drives - they get married at around 18-20. WE taught them that sex outside marriage is wrong, so they get married young. Good for them! they are marrying good mates and have good relationships with their spouses.
 
urban-hermit said:
Does pre-marital sex in any way serve the common good of society?
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Well, I’m young so I only have my little circle of acquaintances to look at:

Girl #1: had sex with a guy for a year and got pregnant, he abused her, threatened to kill her until she aborted. She is just about suicidal every Christmas because that’s close to when it happened. She sleeps around like crazy because 1 she wants to be numb 2 she can’t believe God will forgive her 3 she was raised to think premarital sex is good for you. Every month she lives in crippling fear of pregnancy despite her claim that she is on ABC, the man wears a condom and he withdraws.

Girl #2: gave into a guy and had sex with him, met his every whim because he promised marriage and kids. Found out she has HPV and Herpes because he was cheating on her. Three months after breaking it off, moved in with someone who seems at least nice, but is willing to sleep with her. She cleans the house, caters to his every whim, he treats her nice and promises marriage in a few years. She’s on Yasmine because it’s the most effective…kind of ironic as she wants kids very badly. Oh, BTW, he doesn’t know about her STDs.

Girl #3: Grew up with me, she used to talk all the time about being a virgin until marriage, she was a cradle Catholic…found a guy and moved into an APPT w/ him. She uses an implant and ABC because she is scared to death of pregnancy (it just kills me how they are all scared of pregnancy yet have to be available 24/7 for their partners, duh cause an effect???) They are one step above poverty and this is their excuse for not getting married, but they both made sure they had a nice car, flashy clothes, four years at a private college, a 3 bedroom appt, tons of booze and smoking habits, etc etc.

Girl #4: A cradle Catholic, she met a nice guy, they really had a good relationship, he proposed and they had a 3 year engagement. At the point of proposal they decided that must equal marriage I guess because they moved in together. Every year the marriage got put off another year. She said she woke up one morning and didn’t want to be with him anymore. She had a few brief premarital sex sessions with a few men and now has HPV as well. She has been with a man for 3 months now, but told me she’d never marry him because he’s uneducated.

Guy #1: He has I think 7 current girlfriends. Very charming guy lol. Sleeps around with all of them all the time. Three of them are aware of it and support it so that explains the pure logistics. Two of the girls have been pregnant, one twice, all three ended in abortion at his recommendation.

Guy #2: this is the guy who found out I was a virgin and accepted a challenge to be chaste. As far as I can tell, he has kept his word now for about 6 months. The past 5 years were a weird natural sex period…he wouldn’t date women on ABC, wouldn’t use a condom, wants to get married and have kids…I guess he wanted the kids first then the marriage. :confused:

Guy #3: He is agnostic, his girlfriend is Catholic. Every day is a long argument, whine and pressure to get some premarital sex, after which he spends the next day at work consoling her, promising to go with her to confession, assuring her she’s not pregnant, etc. Interestingly, he says he loves her and has wanted to marry her for 4 years (they’ve been together for 5) but she refuses to do so until she is done with school (1 more of undergrad, 3 more of grad!) He has begged and pleaded and this one will have a twist to the generic story because he is probably going to leave her because he wants marriage, even though she’s the one against premarital sex.

Ha, that’s two guys I know who want marriage and 0 girls I know who do.

Anyways, I could go on and on, but seriously, why is it so hard for people to understand that premarital sex simply creates a foundation that supports a lifestyle of unhappiness? Maybe if people wanted a purely pagan lifestyle where you choose a partner and have kids…but this method of screwing the girl over by pumping her full of artificial hormones and sending her into a panic attack at the idea of a baby is just stupid.
 
In a word, NO it does not benefit society. Mortal sin does not benefit mankind in any way whatsoever. Think of all of us as the mystical body of Christ. We are each a part of the whole mystical body. Mortal sin is sickness, an infection of that body. With Jesus as the head of the mystical body, sin is incompatibility at its utmost.
Deacon Ed B
 
Malcolm_McLean said:
Young people wouldn’t tolerate a marriage age of 25 odd if pre-marital sex wasn’t an option. So we could say it delays the age of marriage.
This has some pretty profound implications for education, economic structure, salaries, housing, and so forth. Some are good, some are bad. It is very difficult to say what would happen if the typical marriage age was brought forward to around 18.
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Marital ages used to be earlier (more so for women, but for men also). Society managed. Of course, many men were having pre-martial sex with prostitues etc, even if their wives to be were not.

Couples can get an education while married, even while having children. College may not look like it does now, but the transformation is already happening with so much distance-learning and weekend only classes.

Considering the huge costs we are bearing monaterialy and emotionally from STDs, abortion, out-of-wedlock births, etc. a change in the way we get our college-level education seems like a reasonable choice.
 
urban-hermit said:
so then it would make sense for us as a society - the government, not just the Church - to discourage pre-marital sex, right? I mean, as a public policy issue.
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“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”
 
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