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xmydreamsfadex
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wow. so “that one” is a commie and now there are no races?
i find you interesting, steve.
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i find you interesting, steve.
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Steve40
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If people of different color can have sex and with the help of God produce offspring, how can they be of a different race? Genetically we are all of the same race. This is scientific fact.
What you are really talking about here is ethnosism. Which takes on a whole different meaning because it has to do with the differences between the way people live or difference in ethnic background. If people would really understand scientifically, that physically we are all of the human race and racism is a misnomer, it would help.
“That one”, meaning that human being, of the human race the only race, …is a commie.
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xmydreamsfadex
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this is off topic, but can you expand on that? as one who knows/knew actual “Reds” i would like to know how you came to that.
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quasimodo
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Perhaps you means “species” rather than “races.”
In common parlance race is not used as you would have it with a silly claim like that.
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maria_rose
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Let’s get back to the subject at hand:
HAve you experienced racism yourself- as victim or as an emotion?
Does it still exist in every cultural and societal level?
I agree with a previous poster who said that some of racism is inherent in human personality : like me/not like me.
I believe that most of us feel more safe and comfortable with our own kind, but strangely uneasy around people of different cultures. I am currently reading a book about a British writer who grew up in India under the Raj. While reading I realized how easy it was for her as a child to accept the people of India and love them. This is just an example, but it makes me wonder if racism is something we learn based on our experiences and those of our forefathers.
Is it a safety mechanism we all need to judge like me/not like me-beware first.
What are your thoughts on this?
HAve you experienced racism yourself- as victim or as an emotion?
Does it still exist in every cultural and societal level?
I agree with a previous poster who said that some of racism is inherent in human personality : like me/not like me.
I believe that most of us feel more safe and comfortable with our own kind, but strangely uneasy around people of different cultures. I am currently reading a book about a British writer who grew up in India under the Raj. While reading I realized how easy it was for her as a child to accept the people of India and love them. This is just an example, but it makes me wonder if racism is something we learn based on our experiences and those of our forefathers.
Is it a safety mechanism we all need to judge like me/not like me-beware first.
What are your thoughts on this?
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Steve40
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I see totalitarian socialism as communist. The ideological view that the government owns all and should be involved in all is communistic. “That one’s” view of the Constitutional Role of the Government is closer to communism than a Democratic Republic. I base this opinion “That one’s” view of taxation and social programs.
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Steve40
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Race has multiple meanings, one being “Mankind as a whole”.
This definition which is what I accept, is in conflict with the definition
“A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics”
It can’t mean both and if it does, it leads to a belief that some people are more human than others.
Why use a word that can be ligitimately interpreted differently depending on the context. Prejudice against ethnic differences or in slang ethnosism is a better way to describe it.
Because the word Race has a double meaning it is racist to use it and allow for the interpretation that some human beings are not part of “Mankind as a whole.”
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cynic
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er, no it doesn’t
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Steve40
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Many within the Church accept the heresey of Polygeism, multiple first parents, based upon the theory of evolution. If we are all not decended from Adam than we are not all of the Human Race as a whole. The minute you open the door for some being more or less human than others, you open the door to racism.
Magret Sanger, Hitler, many have used evolution theory to justify their survival of the fitest mentality, and the death of others.
You are wrong, there is a definate link between evolution and the idea that we are not all of one Human Race.
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jman507
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I would also say that, different children can range in a spectrum of being open to foreign people, things, and ideas. Also in the case of that child, both British and Indian culture may be rather familiar.
I think as Steve pointed out it is more ethnosism than racism would be a more precise term. As far as, do I think we are born with or it is it learned, I would say it would probably be both. I think there will always be sense of caution with the unfamiliar. Humans typically do a great job with being able to fill in the blanks. We need to be able to do a decent job of making first impressions. Since we do not have all the information, we can make wrong decisions. So long as one is open to changing their mind it really isn’t a bad thing, but if one gets to be closed minded regardless of new information then you have trouble.
I would also say that, different children can range in a spectrum of being open to foreign people, things, and ideas. Also in the case of that child, both British and Indian culture may be rather familiar.
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cynic
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You mean they *mis-*used it to justify theories that have no scientific credibility.
All races are human, because all races can breed with each other, and you don’t need multiple first parents to formulate some bogus racial theory, since 500,000 years is enough for the ‘races’ to evolve.
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narrowpath
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I don’t see what evolution has to do w/ the question. Many have taken this theory and perverted it.
Fact: Only individuals of the same “race” can breed. Blacks, whites, hispanics, asians, etc can all interbreed. Therefor, they are all of the same “race”. The human race.
PS: hope no one takes ofense at the word “breed”. Couldn’t think of a better one…
Fact: Only individuals of the same “race” can breed. Blacks, whites, hispanics, asians, etc can all interbreed. Therefor, they are all of the same “race”. The human race.
PS: hope no one takes ofense at the word “breed”. Couldn’t think of a better one…
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xmydreamsfadex
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wow, you’re rich steve…
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xmydreamsfadex
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i experience racism everyday. there are plenty of people i work around that use immigrants as skapegoats for the countries ills. i believe it is a good means used by “the bosses” to keep “the workers” from working for unity with one another. either that or people are just ignorant. maybe a little of both from what i see.
as for my family i can remember my cousin getting yelled at for saying she would date a black, i remember off colored jokes. heck, i even said them myself. as for me, i look back and see how retarded it is and how much of a poison it can be and laugh at how foolish i was.
youth.
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Annn
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Especially in a thread about intolerance, it would be nice if we could try to use language that does not display prejudice towards the disabled.
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xmydreamsfadex
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no disrespect at all. i have two disabled brothers so i’m far from being prejudice. i used the word meaning slow or limited in intellectual development.
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Annn
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I wasn’t saying you were being discriminatory, just that the word is generally known to be pejorative.
po18guy
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My distant ancestors were violently conquered by an empire-building nation. They were slaughtered if they were resisted. Their customs were coerced out of them. Their native dress and language were suppressed as they were forced to assume the new culture. Much later, many of them emigrated, only to find that they were again rejected in thier host country, branded as low class, ineducable, drunkards and subject to violence, a detriment to society. They were barred from entering many businesses by signs prominently posted. They were Irish.
There is a nation in which immigration is the topic of the day. Hordes of foreign nationals are illegally crossing the border, most in search of work. They are accused of taking jobs from legal workers. They are viewed as a detriment to society, sapping the medical and social services systems. The U.S.? No. Costa Rica, reacting to the flood of Nicaraguans over their border. Same in Argentina with Bolivians.
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Appleby
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My Daddy was Jewish and Mama is a Methodist. We were tormented by Italian Catholic children who pushed us off the sidewalk and said that the Jews killed Christ. That is not racism because Jewish is not a race and neither is Catholic or Italian, and anyway we were not Jews, but it was certainly bigotry which most of you mean when you say racism.
I lived in Atlanta for 17 years and regularly saw Blacks wearing t-shirts with Malcolm X and the machine gun and “by any means necessary” and of course “It’s a Black Thing – You Wouldn’t Understand.” And told that White people were born racist and there was nothing we could ever do that would change that. I moved out of Atlanta before I made that true, and go back now and then to remind myself why I moved away.
Finally, I have noticed that almost anything you say about Obama, from “skinny” to “has big ears” to “community organizer” to “hangs around with preachers who curse America” is called RACIST, and that any Black person who does not worship him is called “a Oreo” or “race traitor” or “Unca Tom” etc. Since the dictionary definition of racism is an attitude that the race to which one belongs is superior by virtue of innate genetic virtue to all other races, I would say that attitude is *ipso facto *racism. However, in Atlanta I was constantly corrected that only White people can be racist – and all of us are.
I lived in Atlanta for 17 years and regularly saw Blacks wearing t-shirts with Malcolm X and the machine gun and “by any means necessary” and of course “It’s a Black Thing – You Wouldn’t Understand.” And told that White people were born racist and there was nothing we could ever do that would change that. I moved out of Atlanta before I made that true, and go back now and then to remind myself why I moved away.
Finally, I have noticed that almost anything you say about Obama, from “skinny” to “has big ears” to “community organizer” to “hangs around with preachers who curse America” is called RACIST, and that any Black person who does not worship him is called “a Oreo” or “race traitor” or “Unca Tom” etc. Since the dictionary definition of racism is an attitude that the race to which one belongs is superior by virtue of innate genetic virtue to all other races, I would say that attitude is *ipso facto *racism. However, in Atlanta I was constantly corrected that only White people can be racist – and all of us are.
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jman507
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Oh, the irony of those whom hold that attitude.
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