Does Satan have our world under a strong spell?

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Winterwolf00 said:
Um yeah I said as much.
And the 23 percent are theists who don’t identify with an organized religion, so yes they are thinking of a god.
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Not necessarily. They probably call themselves agnostics, just to be on the safe side. Or they are “spiritual”. But in any case they probalby don’t believe in Satan. They might believe in demons or evil spirits though.
 
CHRISTINE77 said:
Not necessarily. They probably call themselves agnostics, just to be on the safe side. Or they are “spiritual”. ** But in any case they probalby don’t believe in Satan. ** They might believe in demons or evil spirits though.
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Which is irrelevant to being a theist.
 
Charlemagne_III said:
Clarify, please. :confused:
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Appeals to Popularity do not an argument.
Evidence is what’s important.

You say that because the majority of the world are theists that makes atheism suspect.
The majority of the world used to be pagan to, so why should anyone follow Christianity by your logic?
 
Winterwolf00 said:
Which is irrelevant to being a theist.
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*Originally Posted by Charlemagne III
That’s the second greatest trick. The greatest trick is convincing the world God does not exist.
But as we all know, nature abhors a vacuum.

So when God and the Devil no longer are recognized to exist, Anarchy rules.

When 9/10 of the world believes in a god these kind of comments just show a disconnect from reality. *

But relevent to your statement above and to the thread.

By the way according to Wikipedia: "**Atheists **comprise an estimated 2.01%, and **non-religious **a further 16% of the world population. In East Asia, and particularly China, atheists and the irreligious are the majority.On the other hand, a study by the Center for the Study of Global Christianity has concluded that atheism is on a global decline due to continuing steady increases in religiosity in China, which harbors the majority of atheists and non-religious people, and Eastern Europe which has had significant changes in religiosity after the fall of communism. Generally the trend is a return to religion in areas that were under state dominated doctrines that promoted atheism as the official state ideology.

Social scientific assessment of the extent of “atheism” in various populations is beset with a number of problems. First, in most of the world outside of East Asia the vast majority of the populations are believers in either a monotheistic or polytheistic system, typically being cited as 80% or more in United States and India. Consequently questions to assess non belief often take the form of any negation of the prevailing belief rather than an assertion of positive atheism and these will then be accounted, accurately (due to a proper definition of atheism being in reference to literal translation, simply one without theism), to rising “atheism”.

So you see, it is not as simplistic as you try to make it. Also looks like you OVER-estimated athiests. There’s less of you than you think!😉
 
CHRISTINE77 said:
*Originally Posted by Charlemagne III
That’s the second greatest trick. The greatest trick is convincing the world God does not exist.
But as we all know, nature abhors a vacuum.

So when God and the Devil no longer are recognized to exist, Anarchy rules.

When 9/10 of the world believes in a god these kind of comments just show a disconnect from reality. *But relevent to your statement above and to the thread.

By the way according to Wikipedia: "**Atheists **comprise an estimated 2.01%, and **non-religious **a further 16% of the world population. In East Asia, and particularly China, atheists and the irreligious are the majority.On the other hand, a study by the Center for the Study of Global Christianity has concluded that atheism is on a global decline due to continuing steady increases in religiosity in China, which harbors the majority of atheists and non-religious people, and Eastern Europe which has had significant changes in religiosity after the fall of communism. Generally the trend is a return to religion in areas that were under state dominated doctrines that promoted atheism as the official state ideology.

Social scientific assessment of the extent of “atheism” in various populations is beset with a number of problems. First, in most of the world outside of East Asia the vast majority of the populations are believers in either a monotheistic or polytheistic system, typically being cited as 80% or more in United States and India. Consequently questions to assess non belief often take the form of any negation of the prevailing belief rather than an assertion of positive atheism and these will then be accounted, accurately (due to a proper definition of atheism being in reference to literal translation, simply one without theism), to rising “atheism”.

So you see, it is not as simplistic as you try to make it. Also looks like you OVER-estimated athiests. There’s less of you than you think!😉
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And yet I was actually able to source my claims.
 
Winterwolf00 said:
Appeals to Popularity do not an argument.
Evidence is what’s important.

You say that because the majority of the world are theists that makes atheism suspect.
The majority of the world used to be pagan to, so why should anyone follow Christianity by your logic?
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By your logic, why should anyone believe the world is round because the popular view among scientists and laymen is that it is?

Christ constitutes a majority of One, the only One who really counts, and Whose truth cancels out all other so-called truths that were inspired by the Devil.
 
Charlemagne_III said:
By your logic, why should anyone believe the world is round because the popular view among scientists and laymen is that it is?
Christ constitutes a majority of One, the only One who really counts, and Whose truth cancels out all other so-called truths that were inspired by the Devil.
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My logic follows evidence, not popularity as yours does.

If you were born in the middle east you’d be a Muslim, if you were born in India you’d be a Hindu, if you born in the United States you’d likely be a Protestant.

Yet no matter where you are in the world 2+2 always equals 4.
 
Winterwolf00 said:
My logic follows evidence, not popularity as yours does.

If you were born in the middle east you’d be a Muslim, if you were born in India you’d be a Hindu, if you born in the United States you’d likely be a Protestant.

Yet no matter where you are in the world 2+2 always equals 4.
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Yet, your generalities based on your so called evidence are not entirely true. I was born in the United States and am not Protestant. Given the high proportion of non-Protestant in the US, “likely” is an overstatement.

Apparently you logic includes false premises or logical fallacies or both.
 
davidv said:
Yet, your generalities based on your so called evidence are not entirely true. I was born in the United States and am not Protestant. Given the high proportion of non-Protestant in the US, “likely” is an overstatement.

Apparently you logic includes false premises or logical fallacies or both.
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Not really seeing as how Protestantism makes up a majority of the American people.
religions.pewforum.org/pdf/report-religious-landscape-study-full.pdf
Hit Ctrl+F and type in Protestant.
Christian 78.4
Protestant 51.3
Evangelical churches 26.3
Mainline churches 18.1
Hist. black churches 6.9
Catholic 23.9
Mormon 1.7
Jehovah’s Witness 0.7
Orthodox 0.6
Greek Orthodox <0.3
Russian Orthodox <0.3
Other <0.3
Other Christian 0.3
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