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Yes or no? Why?
Is there effect without cause?That’s the fun thing about the Big Bang. No one can say. No information from anything that existed prior to the Big Bang would have survived the Big Bang, meaning that this is a finite end to what can be observed scientifically, whether the Big Bang was the finite beginning of all things or only of all things as they now are.
Yes it does. See the first mover arguement of St.Thomas Aquinas. Or see the First Cause arguement of St. Thomas Aquinas. If you are mentioning the Stephen hawking theory that was debunked here it is, from His colleague nonethelessNo.
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Those with ears stopped up, who are chanting 'nah nah nah nah nah" Clearly believe in the uncaused effect, but have no science (or would it be non-science, or simply nonsense?) to back up their, um, “belief in unbelief.”The big bang does suggest a Creator because without a creator, what would have set the Big Bang into motion? What else but an all-powerful being could create everything out of nothing and then cause it all to explode out from a single point?
I love the proof of causation.Those with ears stopped up, who are chanting 'nah nah nah nah nah" Clearly believe in the uncaused effect, but have no science (or would it be non-science, or simply nonsense?) to back up their, um, “belief in unbelief.”
Roger Penrose doesn’t debunk Hawking’s views of M-theory, at least not in the article you showed. He doesn’t even claim that he can debunk it! He only mentions that M-theory isn’t a theory in the scientific sense, and that presenting it as a scientific theory can be misleading, which is true. However, it can still be a plausible* hypothesis *for how the universe came into existence.If you are mentioning the Stephen hawking theory that was debunked here it is, from His colleague nonetheless
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Even so, even if you declare that the M-theory is correct… well, that had to have come from somewhere too. What caused that?Roger Penrose doesn’t debunk Hawking’s views of M-theory, at least not in the article you showed. He doesn’t even claim that he can debunk it! He only mentions that M-theory isn’t a theory in the scientific sense, and that presenting it as a scientific theory can be misleading, which is true. However, it can still be a plausible* hypothesis *for how the universe came into existence.
My understanding of Hawking’s theory, and in particular the zero-energy universe, is that the laws of cause and effect only apply in this universe because gravity and mass permeate it and fill it with concentrations of postive and negative energy. If gravity were not around, the laws of cause and effect would not apply, and effects (such as the big bang) could occur without a cause.Even so, even if you declare that the M-theory is correct… well, that had to have come from somewhere too. What caused that?