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It’s come to my attention that the Roman Catholic Church believes that the Pope is the ‘Vicar of Christ’ If the RCC truly does believe this, does the Pope sin?
What do you think is meant by “Vicar of Christ”? What does “vicar” mean to you?It’s come to my attention that the Roman Catholic Church believes that the Pope is the ‘Vicar of Christ’ If the RCC truly does believe this, does the Pope sin?
Welcome to the forums.It’s come to my attention that the Roman Catholic Church believes that the Pope is the ‘Vicar of Christ’ If the RCC truly does believe this, does the Pope sin?
We are all representatives of Christ correct?he may be Christ’s representative on earth, but he isn’t perfect.
I’m afraid I disagree. If there’s a distinction between ‘representatives of Christ’ which I can’t find in the bible, I just can’t see why you believe that.Let’s put it this way; the first Pope was Saint Peter and we all know he was a sinner
Vicar, as by definition, is a representative. So by “Vicar of Christ” he means that the Pope is like Christ. Therefore, he has no sin. But, he does sin. No one here on Earth is perfect. We all sin and we all NEED to go to confession.What do you think is meant by “Vicar of Christ”? What does “vicar” mean to you?
According to the dicitionary, ‘representative, deputy or substitute’What do you think is meant by “Vicar of Christ”? What does “vicar” mean to you?
Matthew 16:18-19We are all representatives of Christ correct?
What makes the pope any different?
I’m afraid I disagree. If there’s a distinction between ‘representatives of Christ’ which I can’t find in the bible, I just can’t see why you believe that.
No, it is not. We are all called to emulate Christ as we strive to follow His teachings, but only the Pope is Christ’s representative on Earth, that is, only the Pope speaks for Christ.We are all representatives of Christ correct?
What makes the pope any different?
Thanks Doc for the welcomeWelcome to the forums.
Of course he does. We are all human and we all sin - to be the Vicar of Christ does not mean to be sinless. It means that the Pope is Christ’s representative here on Earth. He leads Christ’s Church in His name and with Christ’s authority.
You may be confusing being infallible with being impeccable.
What separates the pope from a born again Christian?Vicar, as by definition, is a representative. So by “Vicar of Christ” he means that the Pope is like Christ. Therefore, he has no sin. But, he does sin. No one here on Earth is perfect. We all sin and we all NEED to go to confession.
Hit two birds with that stone, haha.
Ephesians 2:19-20Matthew 16:18-19
"And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it.
l I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
the truthWhat separates the pope from a born again Christian?
Not all in the same manner. While all one body, we are indeed many parts.Aren’t all Christians Christ’s representatives?
The authority given to him by God, through his Church.We are all representatives of Christ correct?
What makes the pope any different?
The verse I cited doesn’t say anything about glory going to Peter and his successors. Peter is the rock on which Jesus built his Church. He {Peter} is the most prominent apostle. Jesus gave his apostles authority {with Peter having top authority}. Is it by some power of their own? Of course not! {How silly!Ephesians 2:19-20
So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone
None of Jesus’ discples had any authority to do anything on their own.
All of the glory goes to Christ. Christ is the Head of the Church, not Peter. Don’t you agree?
But who speaks for Christ here on earth? When you have a question of faith and morals, to whom would you go to?Ephesians 2:19-20
So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone
None of Jesus’ discples had any authority to do anything on their own.
All of the glory goes to Christ. Christ is the Head of the Church, not Peter. Don’t you agree?
Wow, the scripture you cited says nothing like you think it says. And if you mean by “on their own” outside of Christ, then the Catholic Church agrees with you so there’s no dispute there.Ephesians 2:19-20
So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone
None of Jesus’ discples had any authority to do anything on their own.
All of the glory goes to Christ. Christ is the Head of the Church, not Peter. Don’t you agree?