Does there have to be a last day

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One thing: the fall from grace began what I believe to be a slow, steady genetic deterioration. Errors in gene encoding that lead to all sorts of abnormalities - even cancer. Genes are not self repairing, and like a tetherball when the tether is cut, once perfect control of the orbit is lost, it spins increasingly out of control.

Projected forward, there would come a point in time where the genetic makeup would be so defective that reproduction would halt.

To the question: If there was a first day, a “big bang”, a sudden creation, an alpha - then it stands to reason that there will be an omega.
 
Yes — that’s right, science does predict this, but It appears faith seems to invalidate the limits of the science. The end of time according to catholicsm is a supernatural event which cannot be predicted by science. Science shows the work of the creator within the universe but there is no equation or science known to man as to the supernatural event of the coming of man. The Big Crunch the dying of our sun etc can be modelled but the model it would appear when we take into account end times theology is flawed as time will come to an end before the model reaches it’s limits, any equations we have as to models of time and space are only useful before time ends.

According to scripture When Jesus comes again the earth will still be habitable so this suggests it be long before the equations predicting a Big Crunch etc happening. After that there will be a new earth and heavens for eternity.
 
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But space is the final frontier, and in the words of the immortal Bones, “Enough already.”
 
Yet the counterpart of neurodegenerativity is neuroplasticity. Further, omega counterbalancing alpha is based on a linear model of time, whereas there may be other conceivable models.
 
A propos of this, tonight’s episode of the Twilight Zone on MeTV is none other than “The Midnight Sun,” in which the earth is doomed because its orbit is out of whack, causing it to move closer to the sun. One of my favorites!
 
Are you referring only to our earthly end, or are you implying we will one day cease to exist both (resurrected) body and soul?
 
meltzerboy2 said:
A propos of this, tonight’s episode of the Twilight Zone on MeTV is none other than “The Midnight Sun,” in which the earth is doomed because its orbit is out of whack, causing it to move closer to the sun. One of my favorites!
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Can’t happen. That’s why we’re building all those wind turbines and banning plastic straws.
 
The Resurrection of the Dead is essential because our salvation remains incomplete without it. Living as disembodied spirits is unnatural for us, and that unnaturalness renders even Heaven somewhat deficient. Great as Heaven is, we look forward to the Resurrection of the Dead, wherein we will be able to experience the joy of Heaven in both body and soul.

From a scientific perspective, there is a strong likelihood that the present Universe exists in a false vacuum. The calculations are still within the margin of error, but based on the Higgs Boson and top quark masses, more of the error range is in the false vacuum region than not. All metastable states eventually decay, either when something stimulates them to decay (as in a laser), or by tunneling through the potential barrier by chance. If the Universe is in a false vacuum state, and I have reason from both science and Scripture to believe it is, it must eventually decay to a lower energy state, which would cause this present Universe to be consumed by fire and replaced with a new Universe with new laws of physics. In short, the false vacuum model is entirely consistent with 2 Peter 3:10.
 
Which is actually the opposite of what is happening in reality: the Earth gets approximately 15 cm farther from the Sun each year because of tidal interaction and the Sun losing mass as it radiates and produces solar wind (along with several smaller effects, some of which partially cancel this effect).
 
I hate to give away endings, but it turns out at the end of the episode what you describe is what is really taking place, whereas the other (opposite) scenario was caused by one character’s delirious state of illness and fever.
 
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lelinator said:
But what if humanity is reborn?
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In what sense? In the sense of the Catholic understanding of the parousia and the glorified bodies of the saints in the eschaton?

Or do you merely mean this in a purely physical way?
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According to scripture When Jesus comes again the earth will still be habitable so this suggests it be long before the equations predicting a Big Crunch etc happening.
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I’m not so sure that I’d agree that this is what Scripture necessarily is saying. If humans found a way to survive a “Big Crunch”, such that they’d be around during the next cycle, then we could still have the parousia, even if it’s on a different planet.
 
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The way you present a cyclical universe is like a perpetual motion machine.
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I think anyone who has thought about cyclical universes in much depth has their own opinion on the subject. Personally I don’t much like cyclical universe models that end up looking like perpetual motion machines. In which one universe passes away, and then another one begins, and then that one passes away, and so on, and so on…forever. It just doesn’t seem very elegant to me. Not that elegance is an objective measure of accuracy.

But I like things that just somehow seem to make sense. Or at least makes me look at things in a way that I never had before.

So what I would really like in a cyclical universe model is one that explains why quantum mechanics looks and acts the way that it does. And how Everett’s “Many World’s Interpretation” might actually be right. For the simple reason that all of those cyclical universes aren’t actually lined up end to end, but are instead stacked up one on top of another. With the beginning and end of each cycle being identical. And with no overarching space and time with which to differentiate them, they all occur at the same time, and in the same place. Such that they can interact with each other. And the observer doesn’t magically or randomly cause the wave function to collapse, but simply reveals which cycle they were always in to begin with. They’ve simply decohered their cycle, from all of the other cycles.

To me, that would be a cyclical universe model that I would like to see. One in which each cycle overlays all of the other cycles. And explains where the seemingly infinite number of world’s in Everett’s MWI come from.

But that’s just me, thinking another one of those ridiculous ideas that one thinks of when one wanders around outside of the box. But as I’ve said before, I like it out here.
 
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