Does your Christianity scare you?

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Nice to see Christianity still scares (Tucker Carlson)

MSN | Outlook, Office, Skype, Bing, Breaking News, and Latest Videos often make jokes about Episcopalians being boring, and unfortunately they’re usually right. I know this because on most Sundays I sit through an Episcopal Church service with my wife and children. It’s a reassuringly predictable experience, always exactly an hour long. And you’ll never meet nicer people. If you needed someone to hold your wallet, or if you were lost in an unfamiliar neighborhood and had to duck into a stranger’s house to use the bathroom, you could do a whole lot worse than to meet up with an Episcopalian. No one has better manners.

And that may be the problem. There’s a notable lack of urgency in most Episcopal churches. Jesus may have promised he’d come back someday, but in the Episcopal Church you don’t get the feeling he really meant it. Nor do you hear a lot about sin. Lust, hatred, gluttony, pride, envy – those are dramatic emotions. Drama makes Episcopalians uncomfortable. The typical sermon leaves the impression that all would be well in this world if only people could manage to be reasonable with each other. Gentlemanly. Thoughtful.

There’s nothing necessarily bad about any of this. (I remain an Episcopalian, with no plans to change.) But every once in a while, as I shift in my pew listening to one of our unusually well-educated preachers expand on the Aramaic understanding of discipleship, I do wish Jesus would come back, preferably in a massive ball of fire through the ceiling of the church. Spiritually, I’m nowhere near ready to face something like that. But it’d be worth it for the shock value.

All of which is to say, I welcome the controversies this season over Christmas. Every time a school district bans Christmas carols, every time the ACLU dispatches a busload of lawyers to fight a nativity scene, every time the ADL declares the Christian Right “dangerous,” it’s a reaffirmation that the faith is not dead. Dead religions don’t give people the creeps. They don’t make atheists mad. They don’t keep Alan Dershowitz up at night. But Christianity still does. What a relief. It’s nice to see that our faith still scares people.

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Sounds A LOT like Catholicism as preached (or not) in the Church.
 
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Troy7:
Sounds A LOT like Catholicism as preached (or not) in the Church.
Not at my parish! 👍
 
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Troy7:
Sounds A LOT like Catholicism as preached (or not) in the Church.
For all those who think Catholicism is staid, boring, not extreme enough I always suggest they read the Magnificat once or twice. Then tell me Catholicism isn’t radical!!
 
The radicalism should be coming from the pulpit which it is not…churchs that do so have now become the exception rather than the rule
 
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The radicalism should be coming from the pulpit which it is not…churchs that do so have now become the exception rather than the rule
I think we’re called to love God, love Neighbor, love ourself. That should not be a call for a ball of fire from the roof.

We need courage in times when evil is labeled as good, but I don’t know if being radical or fearful will help.

Order is not radical; sin is disordered.

Jesus is the Prince of Peace and counseled us to be not afraid. I have no problem with sermoins that urge us to be compassionate, caring and gentle with one another as an expression of authentic love.
 
Well the Holy Father’s Message for the World Day of Peace 2006 looks pretty radical tcrnews2.com/BenedictPeace06.html
  1. The truth of peace must also let its beneficial light shine even amid the tragedy of war. The fathers of the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council, in the pastoral constitution “Gaudium et Spes,” pointed out that “not everything automatically becomes permissible between hostile parties once war has regrettably commenced.” As a means of limiting the devastating consequences of war as much as possible, especially for civilians, the international community has created an international humanitarian law. In a variety of situations and in different settings, the Holy See has expressed its support for this humanitarian law, and has called for it to be respected and promptly implemented, out of the conviction that the truth of peace exists even in the midst of war. International humanitarian law ought to be considered as one of the finest and most effective expressions of the intrinsic demands of the truth of peace. Precisely for this reason, respect for that law must be considered binding on all peoples. Its value must be appreciated and its correct application ensured; it must also be brought up to date by precise norms applicable to the changing scenarios of today’s armed conflicts and the use of ever newer and more sophisticated weapons…
  1. In view of the risks which humanity is facing in our time, all Catholics in every part of the world have a duty to proclaim and embody ever more fully the “Gospel of Peace,” and to show that acknowledgment of the full truth of God is the first, indispensable condition for consolidating the truth of peace. God is love which saves, a loving father who wants to see his children look upon one another as brothers and sisters, working responsibly to place their various talents at the service of the common good of the human family. God is the unfailing source of the hope which gives meaning to personal and community life. God, and God alone, brings to fulfillment every work of good and of peace. History has amply demonstrated that declaring war on God in order to eradicate him from human hearts only leads a fearful and impoverished humanity toward decisions which are ultimately futile. This realization must impel believers in Christ to become convincing witnesses of the God who is inseparably truth and love, placing themselves at the service of peace in broad cooperation with other Christians, the followers of other religions and with all men and women of good will.
  1. Looking at the present world situation, we can note with satisfaction certain signs of hope in the work of building peace. I think, for example, of the decrease in the number of armed conflicts. Here we are speaking of a few, very tentative steps forward along the path of peace, yet ones which even now are able to hold out a future of greater serenity, particularly for the suffering people of Palestine, the land of Jesus,
 
guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,-5477337,00.html

At a news conference about the peace message, Cardinal Renato Martino, head of the Vatican’s pontifical council on peace and justice, was asked if torture could be a legitimate tool to gain information that might prevent terror attacks. The prelate replied that there was no justification for using torture, which is the ``humiliation of the human person, whoever he is.’’

The church does not allow torture as a means to extract the truth,'' Martino said. Terror suspects sometimes say what the torturers want to hear. … There are other ways to obtain the truth.’’ Benedict noted that the Holy See had called for the prompt implementation of international humanitarian conventions dealing with the effects of wars.``Respect for that law must be considered binding on all peoples,’’ the pontiff said.

That prompted a reporter to ask Martino if the pope was concerned about allegations of secret CIA prisons in Europe. The pope is not condemning anybody, but is inviting them to observe the Geneva Convention'' on the treatment of prisoners of war, said Martino, who used to be the Vatican's ambassador to the United Nations. Benedict urged reforms to make the United Nations a more efficient instrument’’ in promoting peace and justice.
 
The US will abide by the conventions. McCain won the day. Good for McCain!

Bush backs ban on torture
ABC Online, Australia
MARK COLVIN: After a long and bruising controversy, the US President George W. Bush has changed his mind and agreed to back a law which would ban the American …

For more information on Sen McCain:

mccain.senate.gov/
 
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Troy7:
Sounds A LOT like Catholicism as preached (or not) in the Church.
IN your profile, you don’t list your religion as Catholic. I don’t now if you are an exCatholic but it would be good to know what your experince in Catholic churches are.

My priest often gives sermons on social good and how we can help those around us. THis is a much harder theology then the emotional fire and brimstone, scare everyone sermons that I was exposed to as a fundamentalist.
 
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