Does your parish have the new responses "down?"

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YoungTradCath said:
Yesterday was actually the worst since the First Sunday of Advent. The church was PACKED yesterday though, much more than normal, with only standing room. Family reunion? I don’t know. But then the choir started to pick up when they realized the congregation was sounding bad, so it was fine for the most part.
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PRAISE GOD!!! that the church was packed. We should find no reason to complain about this “problem.”
 
I realized yesterday that I have to keep that book in front of my face at all times or the old responses automatically come spilling out of my mouth – the mouth of the gal who’s been promoting ‘new translation’ ad nauseam to everyone for the last 8 years.
 
We are sort of jumping between 3 parishes right now. It seems with the parishes where everything is spoken, its about half and half, though people are trying to put in a good effort “and (also) with your spirit” 😛 But we have been going to my parent parish the last 2 Sundays and the priest has been singing everything he can (despite is reluctance to do so). It seems that all the times we are singing or chanting the people get the responses right. I think it has to do with the fact that that parish hardly ever sang the responses before, and it comes at them much slower and the brain has time to process the correct response.

I still need the pew cards for the Gloria and Creed, and the only response I mess up regularly is the part of the Creed while we are bowing. (I apparently can’t bow and read at the same time :p)😛 Part of my struggle with the Creed is that I have a small child that has prevented me from being in the pew (hence with pew cards) during the Creed from really the start of advent until the past few Sundays.
 
I think it will take time and we need a little patience. I’ve pretty much got it all now (@ 63 yrs old). Although I do make errors now and then (when I’m not concentrating fully!?)

I’m sure this time next year the ‘old’ words will be hard to recall.

Compared to the change from Latin to English this should be a walk in the park.
 
Our cantor, who speaks/sings over the PA system from a mic in the choir loft, has taken it upon herself to “help” the congregation by loudly saying the new responses. Last Sunday she must have been distracted because she cut loose with a loud “AND ALSO WITH YOU.” I almost ruptured a lung laughing.
 
The best…it seems …solution to the changes has been to put the new responses on the projector and beam them to a screen for everyone to see. It helps but I can stiil hear the old responses mumbled by a few including me when I lose my concentration on the screen. This is going to take far longer than I thought…old habits die hard.
 
Our parish has been improving each week. I am very guilty of responding “and also with your spirit…”. I can’t get “And with your spirit” out for some reason.😊

The changes have really made me pay attention during Mass. I can’t just respond by rote any longer. Not that I was too much of a slacker, but, I could drift off from time to time.

Blessings,

Anne
 
I can’t really say as I have been to only 3 OF Masses since November 27. Pretty much go to the EF Mass most of the time now.
 
bobballen_18 said:
I am still usually forgetting to use the shorter “It is right and just.” Other than that, I still have to use the the response card for the Gloria and definitely the Creed - They’ve only been used once per week (Sunday) at our parish, so it’s kinda hard to get to know it if you don’t actively try to memorize it outside of church. I finally have “and with your spirit” down, at least, along with everything else.

One of our priests is still saying “Through Him, with Him, and in Him, in the unity of the Holy Spirit…” haha I guess he just doesn’t know that part changed. It’s the parts that the priest is used to saying without a book that they are forgetting to say here. It happens at the Sanctus too with another of our priests - 'Holy, Holy, Holy Lord, God of power and might…" - but ah well. Our parish as a whole I think has them all down pretty well - it sounds like and almost completely unified response to me for most of them!
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Two of our priests (one a monsignor) said “Holy, Holy, Holy Lord, God of power and might…” They made me wonder if I had it right as I said “Holy, Holy, Holy Lord God of Hosts” insecurely.😃 Every so often one can almost hear an “oops” as people say the wrong thing, but it’s getting better slowly.👍
As for the Creed, it’s written in the bulletin so everyone reads it. Except at the Gregorian chant mass, then the brave souls try to sing it in Latin with the four male cantors and the music director, who all wear albs and sing in perfect Latin. I think it is so great, it’s the same as it is at Papal masses. I love it when the lead cantor starts with “Credo in unum Deum”❤️
 
Sarabande said:
Our diocese gave the parishes permission to start learning/using the new responses starting in September, so that most of us were pretty prepared by Advent at those two parishes in the same diocese. The other parish I work is in another diocese and did not permit using the responses ahead of time. In that parish we were allowed to start teaching the responses before mass in November, but two weeks prior to Advent, so it basically took all of Advent to now to get to the point where the other parishes were at back in December.
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Well that was a good idea and I am surprised our diocese did not do it as well? 🤷
 
We are getting better, with special thanks to Father who reminds us constantly. While the reminders in a sense interrupt the flow of the Mass, I think that eventually they will bear fruit and the flow will be restored.
 
I attend the 7:30 Mass at my Parish(name withheld to protect the innocent). The usual attendance is around 110 parishioners, 99 of which are the same folks every Sunday. Today marks the 12th Sunday since the new Translation began to be used. We still have Parishioners that refuse to use the pew cards and continue to use the previous responses. Two of which sit behind me every Sunday. Now i give everyone the benefit of the doubt and never question intent unless given unarguable evidence, but i know they can read. i know they know the pew cards are there in front of them. i know that they KNOW the responses have changed. I find this sad on several levels, not the least of which is obedience to the Church.
I have not made an issue of this, since life is short and i already have enough baggage of my own to work on, nor do i want to involve Fr. in this. But really, 12 weeks? I will just continue to pray for a renewal of obedience within the Catholic Family.
 
Ours has done really well. Our choir messes up the spoken stuff every now and then, because we’re so focused on getting out the next song or finding our place in the octavo, it just kind of slips out. And also with your spirit…happens ALL the time! I haven’t been to any other mass than the one our choir sings at since the changes, so I’m not sure about them, but I know the Gloria is still hard for many of them. They just let us sing.
 
Over here in NZ we have had the new liturgy since Advent 2010 and in my parish we have it down completely. Plus all the chanted responses.
The only things we still need the overhead projector/or power-point thingy (or the booklet) for are the Gloria and the Creed.

It just takes time!🙂
 
I go to the early Mass on Sunday morning usually, and it seems like everyone is getting comfortable with the new responses. I only hear one or two people saying “And also with you.”. I went to the Saturday evening vigil last weekend, and the same can be said at that Mass. It’s nice that it’s not as distracting as when we first started. The one that trips people up a lot is at the introduction to the Gospel reading when the priest says, “The Lord be with you.” That one is based more on instinct for some reason. I hear the most “And also with you”'s at that point in the Mass than at any other point. The other new responses are going pretty well as well.
 
I had to think hard to recall the ‘old’ form of the Confiteor today! At some point the older responses will become a distant memory.
 
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