Dogs vs. Babies

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Dont you think there is a disproportionate amount of fuss over this dog fighting issue involving Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick?

They are now bringing puppies and dogs onto shows like the Larry King show, Fox news, Cnn, whatever to gain sympathy in this disgusting sport, if it can be called this. No doubt this practice is dispicable but is it more important than the millions upon millions of terminated pregnancies in the same United States? WHERE ARE OUR PRIORITIES FOLKS?

Are dogs or animals in general now more important than people? I guess it is if you were to view these TV shows. It goes to show how progressively secular we have gotten in this country. And we have the gall to ask God to bless it.
 
I’ve been involved with animal rescue for eight years and I currently have four dogs and four cats, all rescues, in my home. I am also very pro-life. In God’s great design of the human mind, He gave us the capacity to be passionate about several “causes” at a time. My heart can bleed for unborn baby and abused puppy alike without conflict.
 
you are obviously not a pet lover or you would definately understand what all the fuss is about!
 
My heart can bleed for unborn baby and abused puppy alike without conflict.
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And mine as well…

Another point which needs to be made: Have any of those who wonder is it over the top, what is happening to Vick (or any other person in this disgusting “business”) ever made a study of the lives of serial killers? Not one, but what started out by abusing animals, & then decided humans would be :mad: “more fun”.
Have you all read about how the Nazis trained young men for their murder squads?? They gave each one a puppy, had them raise it, love it, care for it, 24/7…and then:mad: kill it…Again, & again, & again…By the time they were sent out to kill human beings, they didn’t care any more.
The dogfighting “business” is a training ground for sociopaths.
It is also, IMHO, the ground where some money-hungry sociopaths are being revealed. If they:shrug: happen to be celebrities?? I dinnae care, laddie. Anyone who would torment & torture animals is not fit for human society. Period.

But,http://bestsmileys.com/clueless/4.gif hey! That’s just me…
 
RhyannaRose said:
My heart can bleed for unborn baby and abused puppy alike without conflict.
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As if the are in the same realm?!

Abortion is a higher level of moral deprivaty for a human being. Christ’s Church views people involved in abortion as outside the Church. It views people who abuse animals as in need of repentance.

There is a difference.
 
Sean_Boyle said:
As if the are in the same realm?!

Abortion is a higher level of moral deprivaty for a human being. Christ’s Church views people involved in abortion as outside the Church. It views people who abuse animals as in need of repentance.

There is a difference.
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exactly, while i love my dog and don’t want to see animals tortured either, the point of the OP was that the secular media is making a big deal about the dog fighting industry, while the baby killing industry is not a big deal to them.

a dog life is more valuable to them than a human life, from a “fetus” to terry schiavo.
 
Abortion=evil
Deliberate cruelty to animals=evil.

No dichotomy. The media of course is playing up the the latter because it involves a celebrity.
 
I am the mother of four children when I lived in Olympia WA I became angry about all the pro-choicers with thier signs and bumper stickers promoting killing a child.

My reaction was to buy 4 small shirts and a larg one for me. My shirt said I chose life. My kids each were numbered from 1-4 and said choice=life #1 and so forth. Yep my car was shaving cream bombed and I could alway depend on a rotton egg hitting my pourch but heck truth hurts doesnt it?

Today I noticed this orange tabby that has been hanging around my house for about a week now. I took a closer look and noticed that someone had burned his little face. He is resting comfurtably on my bed right now after a meal that must have been his first after a long period considering how thin he is.

The difference is when we chose the well being of an animal over that of a person. Compassion is one thing but an unnatural love is quite another.
 
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you are obviously not a pet lover or you would definately understand what all the fuss is about!
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I have owned dogs and cats all my life but the OP has to do more with the value of human life vs. animal life. No one is condoning cruelty to animals here but if you are honest with yourself arent Humans on a higher scale than animals? Or, are you one of those who place animals on the same level as dogs and cats?

Many of these same folks who demonstrated across the street when Michael Vick was being lead in to the hearing would probably be out on the NOW picket lines for pro choice.
 
StMarkEofE said:
I have owned dogs and cats all my life but the OP has to do more with the value of human life vs. animal life. No one is condoning cruelty to animals here but if you are honest with yourself arent Humans on a higher scale than animals? Or, are you one of those who place animals on the same level as dogs and cats?

Many of these same folks who demonstrated across the street when Michael Vick was being lead in to the hearing would probably be out on the NOW picket lines for pro choice.
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Yeah. A recent poll of college students asked the question, “If you had to choose between your pet dying and an unknown human who would forever remain anonymous to you, which would you pick?” You guessed it: a large majority picked the human to die.
 
cpayne said:
Yeah. A recent poll of college students asked the question, “If you had to choose between your pet dying and an unknown human who would forever remain anonymous to you, which would you pick?” You guessed it: a large majority picked the human to die.
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kinda reminds me of the black button…

google it, good video.

in other news, I think alot of people would (I would be tempted by that in a weaker moment…)
 
Scottgun said:
Abortion=evil
Deliberate cruelty to animals=evil.

No dichotomy. The media of course is playing up the the latter because it involves a celebrity.
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I agree. Joe Schmo who raises fighting dogs doesn’t make the news, but Michael Vick is famous. If a famous woman has an abortion, it will be plastered all over the news.

All living things are part of God’s creation (as are many of the inanimate objects). To value only one portion of it is to cheapen all of it.
 
StMarkEofE said:
Dont you think there is a disproportionate amount of fuss over this dog fighting issue involving Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick?

They are now bringing puppies and dogs onto shows like the Larry King show, Fox news, Cnn, whatever to gain sympathy in this disgusting sport, if it can be called this. No doubt this practice is dispicable but is it more important than the millions upon millions of terminated pregnancies in the same United States? WHERE ARE OUR PRIORITIES FOLKS?

Are dogs or animals in general now more important than people? I guess it is if you were to view these TV shows. It goes to show how progressively secular we have gotten in this country. And we have the gall to ask God to bless it.
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The question is: How do we get the same positive response to save human life from the media and downplay abortions at the same time. God did place Man above the animals but he put Man in a steward position to reign over them. So, God Himself placed man on a higher level than our dogs and cats. That being said, I behuves us to respect the life of all animals great and small.

If we have respect for our unborn it naturally follows that we will have respect for animals.
 
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Originally Posted by RhyannaRose
My heart can bleed for unborn baby and abused puppy alike without conflict.

As if the are in the same realm?!

Abortion is a higher level of moral deprivaty for a human being. Christ’s Church views people involved in abortion as outside the Church. It views people who abuse animals as in need of repentance.

There is a difference. >>>

If a person can harm a dog, it’s only a matter of time before they start harming humans. Torturing animals is moral depravity as well, and I wish the justice system would realize the link between serial killers and animal abusers and give more fitting punishments. I would suggest a prision term of no less then five years as the minium, and not allow parole or probation to be options. God put us above the animals, but He also gave us certain animals like cats and dogs to be our companions, which means we obligated to treat them with compassion and kindness.

And yes, there’s a difference. But I was trying to say that we can focus on more then one cause. I can be stauncely pro-life and also volunteer for animal rescue, as I have done for eight years now. Does that make more sense?
 
Proverbs 12:10 says:

“The just man takes care of his beast, but the heart of the wicked is merciless.”

In my opinion, anybody who engages in these cruel practices is wicked and needs to repent. That of course, doesn’t negate the fact that there are all kinds of other wickedness in our society.
 
RhyannaRose said:
I’ve been involved with animal rescue for eight years and I currently have four dogs and four cats, all rescues, in my home. I am also very pro-life. In God’s great design of the human mind, He gave us the capacity to be passionate about several “causes” at a time. My heart can bleed for unborn baby and abused puppy alike without conflict.
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Agreed.

It cannot be debated that humans are more important and valuable than dogs, but it’s also important to remember that cruel treatment of God’s other creatures is inherently wrong and must be prevented.

I suppose one needs to prioritize when it comes to volunteering limited time or money, but there’s nothing wrong with CNN or what-have-you supporting this cause.

Give them credit: at least they’ve got this one right! 🙂

Peace,
Dante
 
Let’s face it. The mass media supports abortion. Therefore, the death of babies is no big deal to them.

Vick is depraved. He participated in raising dogs - domesticated animals - for the sole purpose of having them tear each other apart. He deserves whatever he gets and then some.

I wish the mass media covered baby killing the same way it covers animal cruelty but it doesn’t and it will not.
 
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