Donald Trump attacks Hillary Clinton as wins set stage for brutal election

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This could all turn out very differently from what people expect right now. We’ll see.
We’ll see, but as I see it it time to begin to re-unite this party.
Donald Trump says, “I consider myself the presumptive nominee, absolutely” of the Republican Party.
Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich says the big challenge for the Republican establishment is to “get over” the fact that Donald Trump going to be the Republican nominee.
dailycaller.com/2016/04/26/trump-i-consider-myself-the-presumptive-nominee-video/

That was a slaughter last night and unprecedented, in fact excellent marketing of the Trump brand. He wins Indiana its all over imho.
 
I don’t think most people know very much about bankruptcy. My understanding, (and I could be wrong about this) is that Trump’s companys’ bankruptcies were Chapter 11 reorganizations, not Chapter 7 wipeouts. In Chapter 11, creditors do get paid, just not the way they contracted for. Sometimes Chaper 11s work out and sometimes they don’t, but their continued existence is very closely monitored by the courts.

But regardless, some companies now in existence owe that existence to Chapter 11. My brother worked for a company that was saved by it.
Understand…but my point is still that the media spends a huge amount of time on picking apart what Trump has done that, in their eyes, is failure. However, Hillary gets a free pass.
 
Right you are, LS.

I guess he’s never taken the time to look at a clip from a Hillary rally. They are filled with women clamoring to just shake Hillary’s hand or tell her they stand with her. Every woman who wants her right to have an abortion preserved will be voting for Hillary instead of the Republican candidate.
“right to have an abortion” = abortion on demand (i.e. states prohibited from placing any restrictions) until the 23rd week?
 
Understand…but my point is still that the media spends a huge amount of time on picking apart what Trump has done that, in their eyes, is failure. However, Hillary gets a free pass.
I know I caught your point and its well taken. Good portion is propaganda and spin by large which stands to change as the election evolves to party nominees imho. Hillary has been enabled by large and its gonna change, by Bernie etc, etc. You have to realize a good deal of the public slander came from the republican party. The media simply reported.
 
Trump just doesn’t know how to do the job of the president; he’s not qualified. He brushed that aside, however, and said he’d “figure it out later.” :eek:
Why is Trump totally unqualified, while Hillary is qualified? Because Trump wasn’t married to a President for eight years? Because Trump wasn’t a subpar Senator and then a lousy Secretary of State? Because he hasn’t been involved in enough scandals?
 
Why is Trump totally unqualified, while Hillary is qualified? Because Trump wasn’t married to a President for eight years? Because Trump wasn’t a subpar Senator and then a lousy Secretary of State? Because he hasn’t been involved in enough scandals?
Because he said himself he didn’t have any idea what the president did, but he’d “figure it out later.” Personally, I’d rather have a president who knows something about the job than one who’ll “figure it out” should he win, and one who can answer questions about the economy and foreign relations.

And I don’t buy the trash talk about Hillary.
 
Why is Trump totally unqualified, while Hillary is qualified? Because Trump wasn’t married to a President for eight years? Because Trump wasn’t a subpar Senator and then a lousy Secretary of State? Because he hasn’t been involved in enough scandals?
I’d say because he hasn’t been involved in enough scandals. Don’t know if he can make up for that. :cool:
 
I don’t know much about bankruptcy, either, but I do know that when companies file Chapter 11, their creditors agree to accept as payment an amount far lower than what they are actually owed…
Absolutely incorrect.

The very purpose of Chapter 11 is to ensure that creditors get paid, either by the contniued operations of the debtor or by orderly liquidation.

In Chapter 11, it is possible that a creditor might be forced to take a “cram down” of the amount owed, but it is not the idea of it going in, and is usually not what happens.

There are priorities too. A secured creditor is not subject to a “cram down”, at least to the value of its security. Certain obligations, such as wages, have priority over general obligations.

Normally, what happens in a Chapter 11 is the same sort of thing that happens in a consumer Chapter 13. The debts are rescheduled so the debtor can actually pay them out of the anticipated cash flow. Usually the ones who are the most affected are the very short-term creditors, who could find their “due in six months” debt extended to full payment in five years.

Also, Chapter 11 can reorganize “preferences” of one creditor over another that might have been forced on a company as its condition grew more desperate before filing.

The very purpose of Chapter 11 (like Chapter 13) is to allow extension and payment of short term debt. And the Judge is charged with ensuring that happens if it’s possible. Bankruptcy judges do nothing else, and the know what they’re doing most of the time.

There is also something called the “absolute priority rule”. By it, the very last people paid are the company’s owners. The only way the owners can recover their stake is to make the company work again. Otherwise, everything goes to the creditors.

Now, if there was no Chapter 11, that’s exactly what would happen anyway, but far more certainly and much less effectively. A food fight by unrestrained creditors will almost never give full value to anyone other than the first in line.

But sometimes it’s true that liquidation is all there is. The assets are sold and the money divided among the creditors in priority order. That could be the fate of Peabody Coal and Arch Coal, for example, the two largest coal companies in the U.S… Obama promised he would bankrupt them, and did, and for no good reason except as prompted by his ideology. So, if they end up in total liquidation, others will end up buying their mines, equipment and contracts for whatever they will now bring. Since Obama’s “war on coal” is not over, he has practically guaranteed that those assets will be sold below their intrinsic value. Few companies can survive when the government decides to bankrupt them.

But that’s politics, I guess. The difference is that if the Trump companies were liquidated, Trump lost his investment because creditors have priority. Having no investment in coal, Obama lost nothing. Only those who depended on coal lost anything. In my state, that’s $1500 per household per year, and forever. In coal mining regions, it’s a lot more. A coal miner’s lifetime earnings would be well over a million dollars. Now it’s nothing.
 
From today’s Guardian:

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/27/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-primaries-results-general-election-sanders-delegates

Somehow I don’t think that this line of attack by Trump is going to go over all that well with most women. Even Christie’s wife seemed turned off.
Women don’t like her, and neither do men. She has incredibly high unfavorable ratings, which really isn’t surprising given her history. A lot of folks still remember her “stand by your man” slap at “stay at home” moms back in the 90s. Even young women are starting to view her role in covering up her husband’s infidelities with some distaste. I’m not sure how Trump making that observation is going to hurt him.

wsj.com/articles/clintons-negative-majority-1461106609
 
Women don’t like her, and neither do men. She has incredibly high unfavorable ratings, which really isn’t surprising given her history. A lot of folks still remember her “stand by your man” slap at “stay at home” moms back in the 90s. Even young women are starting to view her role in covering up her husband’s infidelities with some distaste. I’m not sure how Trump making that observation is going to hurt him.

wsj.com/articles/clintons-negative-majority-1461106609
Both Trump and Clinton have unusually high unfavorable ratings and yet both are their respective party’s favored candidate. This should be a very interesting general election.
 
I don’t know much about bankruptcy, either, but I do know that when companies file Chapter 11, their creditors agree to accept as payment an amount far lower than what they are actually owed. I guess something is better than nothing.
I suspect you are confusing a Chapter 11 with a full on liquidation of the business.

Do you know any successful business people? Their records are like a batting average. An occasional home run, more base hits, and many more strike outs.
Understand…but my point is still that the media spends a huge amount of time on picking apart what Trump has done that, in their eyes, is failure. However, Hillary gets a free pass.
It’s bizarre. She has accomplished little but gets full credit for just ‘being there’. Her strike outs are just pushed under the rug.
She’s never hit a home run (base ball metaphor)
 
Both Trump and Clinton have unusually high unfavorable ratings and yet both are their respective party’s favored candidate. This should be a very interesting general election.
Normally I would agree but last night seemed to twist this statistic which may be propaganda. This was projected and pretty much played out as such
Republican Results
Trump Favorability
Cruz Favorability
Connecticut
Trump 59, Kasich 25, Cruz 13
Pennsylvania
Trump 51, Cruz 25, Kasich 22
Rhode Island
Trump 61, Kasich 23, Cruz 13
publicpolicypolling.com/main/ted-cruz/

Trump has the highest favorability rating of the GOP candidates in each state, and also handily wins head to head match ups with Cruz and Kasich in all three states.
 
Both Trump and Clinton have unusually high unfavorable ratings and yet both are their respective party’s favored candidate. This should be a very interesting general election.
True, but I think as the general election gets closer and more people start paying attention, Trump is better positioned. People will stand in line to see Trump, Hillary as trouble filling a high school auditorium. I don’t see how Hillary can overcome the “enthusiasm gap” between hers and Trump’s supporters.
 
I suspect you are confusing a Chapter 11 with a full on liquidation of the business.

Do you know any successful business people? Their records are like a batting average. An occasional home run, more base hits, and many more strike outs.

It’s bizarre. She has accomplished little but gets full credit for just ‘being there’. Her strike outs are just pushed under the rug.
She’s never hit a home run (base ball metaphor)
You can thank the MSM for that.
 
Looking forward to Trump’s speech around noon today. Expect he will be discussing very important areas that need the attention of the American people.
 
Hillary’s “I won” rant over Bernie Sanders was literally painful to hear. Her phony concerns and card playing skills are all she has, except for skill at hiding her crookedness. How many women really want what she represents. She claims pleasure in being a Grandmother and mother on one hand but in the other hand she takes money from abortion providers that sell baby’s body parts and call it caring for women’s health! She yells about protecting women, over and over that she is for women! She is loosing her voice and that is hopeful!
 
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