Donald Trump has unleashed a white crime wave

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Remind me what they do for the US? Bomb the USS Liberty when we’re helping them in the Six Days War? Accept $3 billion a year in US foreign aid while Americans starve, languish without work, and live in crumbling asphalt jungles?
Read Foxbats Over Dimona.
 
Wow! Where did you get all of this. I personally know a few people that use this attacks as a fact of how white America is trump America. They literally believe this and other stories as well, that come from sites that are parody.
 
I am awarding this thread, the not so coveted Golden Sewer Award.
 
Wow! Where did you get all of this. I personally know a few people that use this attacks as a fact of how white America is trump America. They literally believe this and other stories as well, that come from sites that are parody.
Looks to me like he/she got it from that new fangled thang called the internet. Its an amazing thang! Are you serious?
 
Wow! Where did you get all of this. I personally know a few people that use this attacks as a fact of how white America is trump America. They literally believe this and other stories as well, that come from sites that are parody.
The initial reports usually get all the attention and notoriety … the followups usually get little attention … and sometimes even when they are known to be fakes - the news reports will imply that while this instance is fake there are similar hate crimes out there that are real … so 🤷

But when I read about crimes like this - I try to follow - for one - I hate that there are crimes that are racially motivated … its a deep sadness that we still have vestiges of racism which members of my family could become targets of … but I see these faked hate crimes as also targeting many people and they are used to gin up the idea that America is a racist nation at its very core - it is not … most people are just trying to get by and do the best they can and they dont really target people due to their race.

In fact - the wrong headed IMHO - charge of America as a racist nation has hurt race relations extremely. After fighting in this country to have Plessy V Ferguson - the case that brought us *Separate but Equal * replaced by the Civil Rights Act - where we are all equal everywhere and where Dr. King hoped for a nation where
…live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
… we have separate college graduation ceremonies based race, non-White days on Campuses, Safe Spaces, many racially determined programs - separate dorms,different entrance requirements, different standards … its crazy … everything is all about race while at the same time - it is not PC to even mention or notice race - supposedly

:rolleyes:

I have a granddaughter that is half a certain minority … she recently won an award for being that race and intelligent and outstanding … me - she is outstanding and awesome - that fact that she is mixed race does not have anything to do with her intelligence or God given gifts - she works hard, studies hard and is awesome - period …

Whether we are addressing the good or bad about a person - we should be looking to the individual - not their race, religion, or anything other than who they are, how they act and what they do - as a human person
 
Not at all. The Middle East will always be at war. But Israel and Saudi Arabia are exacerbating the problem. The US military’s main task now is to protect those countries’ oil fields and bank accounts.

What’s more, there’s plenty of evidence that Israel kills civilians regularly. Whenever they’re exposed, they hide behind the tragedy of the Holocaust, as if that’s at all relevant.

Remember that modern Israel is a secular state, not the Kingdom of David.
If we go by that logic, the US has also been exacerbating world problems by their tendency to butt its nose into everything. The US is also built on slavery and the oppression of natives as one poster pointed out.

Yet no one questions the right of the US to exist.

I do not think of modern day Israel as a Davidic kingdom but it is the Jewish homeland.
 
If we go by that logic, the US has also been exacerbating world problems by their tendency to butt its nose into everything. The US is also built on slavery and the oppression of natives as one poster pointed out.

Yet no one questions the right of the US to exist.

I do not think of modern day Israel as a Davidic kingdom but it is the Jewish homeland.
I’m not saying they need to be dissolved, but rather, we should stop helping them and fighting their wars for them. We pour tax dollars and lives into keeping them extant, and get nothing in return.

And I’m aware of America’s crimes against natives and blacks. But that was over a hundred years ago. This is today.
 
If you were a Political social engineer. how would you set out to grab power in a strong democracy ?
Take control over the mainstream media and TV
Print articles and stories that deceive and confuse the citizens and turn all segments of society against each other
  • Black against White
    Muslim against Christian
    Protestant against Catholic
    Young against Old
    Political Left against Political Right
    Men against Women
    ::slapfight::stretcher::::::eek::
    Once the population are all fighting each other and you have weakened the elected political leader by impeaching him , you would then, take over the reins of power, announce a state of emergency, declare Martial Law , , install a Strongman to replace the peoples’ legitimate choice and : Hey Presto, You now have a Police State ruled by a Dictator . 🤷
 
If we go by that logic, the US has also been exacerbating world problems by their tendency to butt its nose into everything. The US is also built on slavery and the oppression of natives as one poster pointed out.

Yet no one questions the right of the US to exist.

I do not think of modern day Israel as a Davidic kingdom but it is the Jewish homeland.
And people of Jewish heritage have lived there continually - without break. There was an influx of diaspora Jews after WWII to the area and a specific boundary set - but it is important to remember that there have been Jews living in Israel and in Jerusalem for over 3,000 years.

In relation to that Davidic Kingdom - The people of modern day Israel share the same language and culture that has existed through all those generations from Abraham through the present day. The historical and archaeological record attest to that fact … its not as if 100% of the Jews exited Israel for 1000s of years and only returned post WWII as many want to imply.

From the religious perspective - the Jewish City - a Holy place to Jews for all of its 3000 year occupation is only very recently a Muslim Holy site … and the Christian’s Holy sites fall between those two … older than the Muslims but much less than the Jewish peoples claims
 
Really?

Perhaps you don’t live in a major city. Where I live (which is in a major city) black crime skyrocketed during the Obama years.
I live in a major city too. A very major city.

Crime has been on the decline for decades now. Crime, whether committed by black people or otherwise, has not “skyrocketed.”

You should probably look to causes other than the Obama presidency for the cause of the rise in crime in your city.
 
  • Last week, in Portland, Oregon, a man with a history of white supremacist rhetoric* allegedly killed two men and injured one other who had tried to stop his harassment of two young women—one black, the other wearing a hijab.
A week earlier, in College Park, Maryland, another young man—active in white supremacist Facebook groups— killed a black college student after confronting him on the street, according to police. In March, a white supremacist reportedly traveled from Baltimore to New York City with the express purpose of killing a black man, which he did, before turning himself into police. Earlier that month , a Sikh man was shot and injured in front of his house in a Seattle suburb.

His alleged attacker reportedly shouted “go back to your country.” Days earlier, in Kansas, authorities described how a man walked into a bar and shot three men , including two immigrants from India, after shouting “get out of my country” and yelling racial slurs. One of the Indian men, Srinivas Kuchibhotla, died of his wounds. More recently, a California man was alleged to have stabbed a black man with a machete after yelling racial slurs—he’s facing charges—and a Native American man was run down and killed by an assailant who allegedly shouted racial slurs.

These events are not isolated. They represent a growing tide of intolerance in the United States, fanned by the presidential election and embodied by the sitting president. At the same time, they—and the larger forces they represent—aren’t novel. The rise of racist reaction in politics almost always brings a similar rise of racist violence in civil society. For as much as the current period feels new, we are living through an old, and very American, cycle of behavior.

Nationally, white supremacist and white nationalist activity is on the rise, from more aggressive recruiting online, to active organizing and intimidation on college campuses. Law enforcement officials in cities such as New York have seen a surge in reported hate crimes, and the Southern Poverty Law Center reports an increase in the number of hate groups.

All of this takes place against a backdrop of political intolerance. Donald Trump ran for president on a platform of ethno-nationalism, offering interested white voters a chance to express and vote their resentments against Hispanic immigrants, Muslim Americans, and groups like Black Lives Matter. His campaign brought explicitly racist groups, individuals, and institutions into the mainstream, from Steve Bannon—who rode the success of his hate-fueled site Breitbart to a position as a top adviser in the Trump White House—to formerly fringe figures like Iowa Rep. Steve King, who routinely traffics in white nationalist rhetoric.

Millions of white Americans stomped the floor for Trump’s promise to end “political correctness” and restore prosperity through tough action against foreign others, turning out at higher numbers than either 2008 or 2012. This rhetoric has a real impact. A recent working paper suggests that when people view Trump’s popularity as going up, it “increases their willingness to publicly express xenophobic views.”
businessinsider.com/donald-trump-and-white-crime-2017-6?
Three incidents. 300,000,000 Americans. For goodness’ sake, get a grip.
 
Looks to me like he/she got it from that new fangled thang called the internet. Its an amazing thang! Are you serious?
Yes I am very serious. For example, one of them told me this story.

I was standing at the store line, and this woman kept looking at me weird. I felt like yelling “HILLARY”

Now comes the kicker. The person is white/hispanic. Why on earth the need to scream “Hillary”?

Here is the sad part. They used to go to church more often and where not as sarcastic, nor angry. Now I have not seen them in church for a long time, and talk about how all faiths are equal. So you can see the trickle down effect.
 
I live in a major city too. A very major city.

Crime has been on the decline for decades now. Crime, whether committed by black people or otherwise, has not “skyrocketed.”

You should probably look to causes other than the Obama presidency for the cause of the rise in crime in your city.
Glad you city’s crime is down in your city. For the record, I did not blame the Obama Presidency for the cause of the rise in crime in my city. Black crime did skyrocket in my city during the Obama years though. That is a fact.
 
Blaming the symptom (Donald Trump) instead of the cause (collapse of morality and a sense of direction in life provided by Christianity and the worship of Mammon, self-entitlement and self filling the void) accomplishes nothing.
Instead of finding Hope, forgiveness and direction found in Christianity, a lot of young white men have become self-entitled, find identity in their skin pigment instead of the transformative work of Christ and see sex, alcohol and material wealth as the only things that matter in life. You reap what you sow.
 
Wow, after reading the entire article, the author makes it seems as if huge mobs of angry, racist whites in KKK garb are roaming the streets of every town in America looking for any non-white person they can find for a lynching.

It is obviously sad and unfortunate to see that people are perpetrating acts of violence against minorities, etc. And it is indeed possible that these people somehow feel empowered by the election of Trump to do these things. However, to actually blame Trump is a foolish decision. Trump does not espouse racist views or anything of the sort. He wants to work to improve the African American, Latino, etc. communities…not harm them. In addition, he made it very clear way back after he was elected, when he was being interviewed by Lesley Stahl on 60 Minutes, that anyone being violent in his name should stop immediately…

On another note, I thought that these two sentences were very funny:
Throughout American history, the ascendance of political racism—the use of explicit prejudice to energize voters and win elections, often as a backlash to the social and economic advancement of black Americans and other nonwhite groups—has brought corresponding waves of racial violence.
Nationally, white supremacist and white nationalist activity is on the rise, from more aggressive recruiting online, to active organizing and intimidation on college campuses.
Liberals act like they don’t use race-baiting tactics and the riling up of racial tensions to garner political support. Ridiculous!

Also, since when were white nationalist groups taking over college campuses?? This is news to me, because being in college myself, I know that the liberal, progressive agenda is quite sacrosanct. A Black Lives Matter protest is much more likely than anything from a white nationalist group…

May God bless you all! 🙂
 
It’s absolutely never, ever random individuals. People do not exist in a vacuum, separate from wider society.
Yes, I know. Tell that to the left when ‘random lone wolf individuals’ make a dozen terrorist attacks in a week.
 
If we go by that logic, the US has also been exacerbating world problems by their tendency to butt its nose into everything. The US is also built on slavery and the oppression of natives as one poster pointed out.

Yet no one questions the right of the US to exist.

I do not think of modern day Israel as a Davidic kingdom but it is the Jewish homeland.
There are a few hard-core leftists who don’t think the US has a right to exist, either.
 
Can we blame Obama for all the black criminals? You want lay this at Trumps feet. It would only be fair to lay all black crime at Obama’s feet. RIDICULOUS !
Once again we have another hate thread from a hater
Trump exposed what was in people’s hearts. He ran as an open bigot and won. Obama had the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, but ultimately ended up repudiating him when Obama’s attempt to make a nuanced speech caused Wright to say that Obama did so out of political necessity. They are not equivalent and any crime has more to do with policing philosophy. Obama wasn’t perfect(none of us is) but he did not unleash the forces Trump did or show such disregard for his political opponents.
 
Three incidents. 300,000,000 Americans. For goodness’ sake, get a grip.
Great point! A liberal SCOTUS in 1973 put in motion the killing of 55,000,000 lives in the U.S. to date. Should we blame all liberals/Democrats for that?

One (or a couple) person(s) represents a particular POV and all at once he/she is responsible for people who haven’t got a grip on reality. Somebody needs to put a choke-chain on that mongrel.

Shalom
 
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