Donald Trump Jr emails show Russia communication

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7_Sorrows said:
RT reported NYT retracted the story that 17 intelligence agencies…
They did later issue a correction.
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RT (formerly Russia Today) is a Russian international television network funded by the Russian government.[6][7] It operates cable and satellitetelevision channels directed to audiences outside of Russia, as well as providing Internet content in various languages, including English, Spanish and Russian.
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RT has been frequently described as a propaganda outlet for the Russian government[13][14][15] and its foreign policy.[13][15][16][17][18][19] RT has also been accused of spreading disinformation[19][20][21] by news reporters,[22][23] including some former RT reporters,[24][25][26] The United Kingdom media regulator, Ofcom, has repeatedly found RT to have breached rules on impartiality, and of broadcasting “materially misleading” content.[27][28][29][30]
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Sojourner003 said:
RT (formerly Russia Today) is a Russian international television network funded by the Russian government.[6][7] It operates cable and satellitetelevision channels directed to audiences outside of Russia, as well as providing Internet content in various languages, including English, Spanish and Russian.
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RT has been frequently described as a propaganda outlet for the Russian government[13][14][15] and its foreign policy.[13][15][16][17][18][19] RT has also been accused of spreading disinformation[19][20][21] by news reporters,[22][23] including some former RT reporters,[24][25][26] The United Kingdom media regulator, Ofcom, has repeatedly found RT to have breached rules on impartiality, and of broadcasting “materially misleading” content.[27][28][29][30]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network
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Yes, but the story was wrong for months!
 
RT and its predecessors … sometimes, they post accurately, when it can damage the West.

Inaccurate … wrong … fake … bogus … pure Soviet propaganda … aimed at advancing Soviet goals … aimed at damaging the United States.
 
7_Sorrows said:
Yes, but the story was wrong for months!
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Which means the rest of the story was right for months, since none of the other facts required correction.

Can the same be said about the Donald? He keeps denying that Russia meddled in the campaign on his behalf, when there is clear evidence that they did.

Furthermore, his job is to look after national security, but his administration is doing nothing to protect the nation from cyber attacks on our election system and infastructure (e.g., power grids).

We know Russia tried to hack the voter data of at least 21 states and Trump’s only response is to set up a single centralized database of every voter in the US - why? Probably so Putin could have an easier time getting access in the future.

There is no doubt that something sinister is going on between Trump and Russia, and until it’s fully exposed, our national security is at grave risk.

Trump’s joint cybersecurity task force with the Russians was a joke, but the threat isn’t, writes @GrahamDavidA
theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/trump-cybersecurity-flip-flop/533097/?utm_source=twb

BBC News - US official: Russia ‘hacked’ 21 US states in election bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40357357
 
Luke6_37 said:
Which means the rest of the story was right for months, since none of the other facts required correction.

Can the same be said about the Donald? He keeps denying that Russia meddled in the campaign on his behalf, when there is clear evidence that they did.

Furthermore, his job is to look after national security, but his administration is doing nothing to protect the nation from cyber attacks on our election system and infastructure (e.g., power grids).

We know Russia tried to hack the voter data of at least 21 states and Trump’s only response is to set up a single centralized database of every voter in the US - why? Probably so Putin could have an easier time getting access in the future.

There is no doubt that something sinister is going on between Trump and Russia, and until it’s fully exposed, our national security is at grave risk.

Trump’s joint cybersecurity task force with the Russians was a joke, but the threat isn’t, writes @GrahamDavidA
theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/trump-cybersecurity-flip-flop/533097/?utm_source=twb

BBC News - US official: Russia ‘hacked’ 21 US states in election bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40357357
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What did Obama ever do?

There is nothing sinister going on between USA and Russia?
 
Luke6_37 said:
Can the same be said about the Donald? He keeps denying that Russia meddled in the campaign on his behalf, when there is clear evidence that they did.
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What’s the evidence, then?

And why in the world won’t the DNC allow the FBI to examine the computer supposedly hacked by Russia? If not for that story, there wouldn’t be a “Russia collusion” story. And yet, nobody outside the DNC and its hired spy agency have examined the “evidence” that the media finds so persuasive.
 
7_Sorrows said:
Yes, but the story was wrong for months!
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:rolleyes: You really need to use your friend google.

NYT updated its story to include the WH claim.

But what is the reality of the story?

usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/21/17-intelligence-agencies-russia-behind-hacking/92514592/
Clinton in the Las Vegas debate said:
“We have 17, 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military who have all concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyber attacks, come from the highest levels of the Kremlin. And they are designed to influence our election. I find that deeply disturbing.” .
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Trump responded: that we have
“no idea whether it is Russia, China or anybody else."
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USA today’s assessment athte time:
But Clinton is correct. On Oct. 7, the Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence issued a joint statement on behalf of the U.S. Intelligence Community. The USIC is made up of 16 agencies, in addition to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
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Here is the statement:
dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national

It begins:
The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations.
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I think it fair to say that HRC wold have been more accurate to say, 17 agencies that after an investigation lead by the four major agencies, the DHS and ODNI released at statement on behalf of the USIC in which the conclusion is rendered that the Russian government is directed the cyber attacks.

Trump’s comment however has nothing other than deflection from russia made on the basis of nothing. This is a gnat and camel absurdity.

He repeated his doubts at the G20 summit, and added to it his uncertainty as to whether or not we even have 17 intelligence agencies. 🤷

Here is an assessment from Politifact.
politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/jul/06/17-intelligence-organizations-or-four-either-way-r/

The issue here is the assessment of the IC on Russia’s involvement. The deflection about the share of work of each agency within the IC in developed the conclusion, or drafting the statement is especially gross. Trump should have gone in to his meeting with Putin and said: this is conclusion of the USA, and here are some of the actions that we are prepared to undertake if you don’t cease and desist. Instead he expresses his doubt in our people - in an international venue - and meekly asks Putin if he did it. Twice.

And the Trump-blind crow about something that they like to call an error in the MSM. Trump above the nation.😦
 
Ridgerunner said:
What’s the evidence, then?

And why in the world won’t the DNC allow the FBI to examine the computer supposedly hacked by Russia? If not for that story, there wouldn’t be a “Russia collusion” story. And yet, nobody outside the DNC and its hired spy agency have examined the “evidence” that the media finds so persuasive.
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Yup!
 
dvdjs said:
:rolleyes: You really need to use your friend google.

NYT updated its story to include the WH claim.

But what is the reality of the story?

usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/21/17-intelligence-agencies-russia-behind-hacking/92514592/
Clinton in the Las Vegas debate said:

Trump responded: that we have

USA today’s assessment athte time:

Here is the statement:
dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national

It begins:

I think it fair to say that HRC wold have been more accurate to say, 17 agencies that after an investigation lead by the four major agencies, the DHS and ODNI released at statement on behalf of the USIC in which the conclusion is rendered that the Russian government is directed the cyber attacks.

Trump’s comment however has nothing other than deflection from russia made on the basis of nothing. This is a gnat and camel absurdity.

He repeated his doubts at the G20 summit, and added to it his uncertainty as to whether or not we even have 17 intelligence agencies. 🤷

Here is an assessment from Politifact.
politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/jul/06/17-intelligence-organizations-or-four-either-way-r/

The issue here is the assessment of the IC on Russia’s involvement. The deflection about the share of work of each agency within the IC in developed the conclusion, or drafting the statement is especially gross. Trump should have gone in to his meeting with Putin and said: this is conclusion of the USA, and here are some of the actions that we are prepared to undertake if you don’t cease and desist. Instead he expresses his doubt in our people - in an international venue - and meekly asks Putin if he did it. Twice.

And the Trump-blind crow about something that they like to call an error in the MSM. Trump above the nation.😦
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Apparently it’s not 17, either.

Might be there, but I didn’t see Brennan’s name, neither.
 
7_Sorrows said:
So you admit he did nothing about Russia?
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That is a bizarre inference.
Since you are of requesting that others make use of the search tool, it seemed highly appropriate suggest that you do a little of your own homework as well.
 
Monte_RCMS said:
Apparently it’s not 17, either.
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Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
 
Ridgerunner said:
What’s the evidence, then?

And why in the world won’t the DNC allow the FBI to examine the computer supposedly hacked by Russia? If not for that story, there wouldn’t be a “Russia collusion” story. And yet, nobody outside the DNC and its hired spy agency have examined the “evidence” that the media finds so persuasive.
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Clinton had over 20 years of dirt on her. Why is it assumed it was only on a computer?

Trump showed he was willing to use anything, even her husband, against her.
 
dvdjs said:
That is a bizarre inference.
Since you are of requesting that others make use of the search tool, it seemed highly appropriate suggest that you do a little of your own homework as well.
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So Obama did nothing about the Russia threat.
 
dvdjs said:
Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
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And which are the 3 or 4 connected to the story because 17 was incorrect?
 
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