Donald Trump Presidential Campaign Thread

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Sy_Noe said:
But don’t you think too his rhetoric on immigrants and Muslims and insults has played a part as well in his support? His supporters seem to love it when for instance he says Goofy Elizabeth Warren and refers to her as Pocahontas.
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The immigration stance goes to “they’re taking our jobs” mentality. I think it comes from the economic populism.

The other rhetoric is red meat for this population (economically slighted Republicans). After all, they’ve been exposed to years of Fox News (sorry, I’m blaming Fox News) who blame Obama for doing things like not calling ISIS Islamic, so obviously, that plays well. The Pocahontas stuff just speaks to his maturity and will play well to the Fox News (so, sorry, but it’s true) audience, but it’s what will keep him from becoming President because he can’t appeal to similar Democrats.
 
Thorolfr said:
At least Mitt Romney is standing his ground and not rallying to Trump’s side and even though I’m not a Republican or a conservative, I kind of admire Romney for that. Trump, of course, has responded as we might expect in his usual childish way:
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I think high level politicians in the Republican Party will not accept him, but the rank and file social conservative is more than willing to make excuses for him in an attempt to retain some relevance in the Republican Party that is shifting away from them.
 
Little_Sheep said:
I personally believe that a viable and principled 3rd party candidate would be a wonderful thing this year. Even if such a party could not win in November, it would give hope to those of us who respect genuine conservative principals.

I don’t mean to mislead you - I am a Hillary supporter. But I am heartbroken that the Republican Party has shattered so painfully. Our nation needs a vibrant conservative voice. It’s been ages since we’ve actually had one.

Donald Trump is many many things, but conservative and Republican are two things he is not.
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LOL, so you want the third party to be a principled ‘conservative’, which make sense because you support Hillary.

I want progressives to offer the principled candidate, maybe Bernie will run for the Green Party?
 
chero23 said:
That is what you are saying. Your just not shooting straight.
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No not at all, basically what I’m saying is the Democratic party is diametrically opposed to the Catholic Church. You mean I wasn’t clear?
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Sure I am, When I look at these parties the priority of concern for me is a comparison to see which fits Catholic moral teaching with a formed conscience. So a couple aspects come to mind with morality-human rights and formed conscience.

The weight of the evil of the democratic party, I find there to be no comparison in other parties. So while I agree with being vast and multi with issues and concern, I can’t vote Democratic and further imho I think a very case can be made the Democrats have truthfully done nothing but moved further away from Catholic teaching since Kennedy. And that continues to evolve with Hillary and this party with abortion, religious freedom, socialized meds and suppression of in fact a formed conscience.

So personally the people of Trump and Hillary present a secondary problem for me. In my formed conscience I can’t by understanding the above move past the concept of this party with “rights”. I can assure you I never in my life thought at the end of my life I’d be here defending the Catholic Church and Little Sisters of the Poor but I happen to think its an outrage how the Democrats have attacked the Church.

The Trump Hillary show is Donald tells anyone who he thinks is talking stupid, they are stupid, and Hillary like Obama assumes everyone is already stupid. I know, her arrogance came with manners. Not really a redeeming quality imho.

But I get why people came to believe in much of the Democrats concept of socialized meds, education etc.

Thats not shooting straight?
 
CHRISTINE77 said:
Donald Trump is the next President of the United States.
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As Trevor Noah said on The Daily Show in comparing Ted Cruz and Donald Trump, “Ted Cruz would be our worst president, but Donald Trump would be our LAST.”
 
Crossbones said:
I think high level politicians in the Republican Party will not accept him, but the rank and file social conservative is more than willing to make excuses for him in an attempt to retain some relevance in the Republican Party that is shifting away from them.
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I’ve read several articles that say this as well.

On a separate note, Trump’s slogan is reminiscent of Bob Dole’s line in 1996 of being a “bridge to the past.” President Bill Clinton jumped all over that with his “Bridge to the 21st Century” line. Voters, especially younger voters, aren’t looking backwards, they’re looking forward. Our demographics have shifted, and Trump has alienated many of the voting blocs necessary to win in the general election. Women and minorities will overwhelmingly support Clinton. And I suspect she will clearly win the Catholic vote as well.
 
GaryTaylor said:
No not at all, basically what I’m saying is the Democratic party is diametrically opposed to the Catholic Church. 🤷 You mean I wasn’t clear? 🙂
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No, you’re just wrong.

The Democratic Party is wrong on life issues and sexuality issues. Otherwise, it is in great accord with the Catholic Church. However, there is a strong and growing movement call Democrats for Life that removes those obstacles and makes the party run in concert with the Church. Check it out…
 
godisgood77 said:
No, you’re just wrong.

The Democratic Party is wrong on life issues and sexuality issues. Otherwise, it is in great accord with the Catholic Church. However, there is a strong and growing movement call Democrats for Life that removes those obstacles and makes the party run in concert with the Church. Check it out…
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I’m not wrong whatsoever in fact I am absolutely right. I think it would be more appropriate one suggest they disagree then prove their point instead of making blanket statements with no proof.

Life and its right, and the right to protect life along with socialized medication, attacks on religious liberty and the suppression of conscience leaves the party acceptable how exactly?
Democrats for Life
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How does one vote for death and support life? Let alone the rest of the that contradiction with religious liberty etc.
 
godisgood77 said:
No, you’re just wrong.

The Democratic Party is wrong on life issues and sexuality issues. Otherwise, it is in great accord with the Catholic Church. However, there is a strong and growing movement call Democrats for Life that removes those obstacles and makes the party run in concert with the Church. Check it out…
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"Other than that how was the play, Mrs Lincoln?
 
godisgood77 said:
No, you’re just wrong.

The Democratic Party is wrong on life issues and sexuality issues. Otherwise, it is in great accord with the Catholic Church. However, there is a strong and growing movement call Democrats for Life that removes those obstacles and makes the party run in concert with the Church. Check it out…
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The policies of the Democratic Party do not help poor people in the long term if that is the insinuation here.
 
Mulligan2 said:
I’ve read several articles that say this as well.

On a separate note, Trump’s slogan is reminiscent of Bob Dole’s line in 1996 of being a “bridge to the past.” President Bill Clinton jumped all over that with his “Bridge to the 21st Century” line. Voters, especially younger voters, aren’t looking backwards, they’re looking forward. Our demographics have shifted, and Trump has alienated many of the voting blocs necessary to win in the general election. Women and minorities will overwhelmingly support Clinton. And I suspect she will clearly win the Catholic vote as well.
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Yet he’s been tied, leading or within the margin of error is several polls.

Trump may have made some people angry, but some of those folks will still vote for him.

And have liberals ever considered what changing demographics means for the social issues?
 
SuperLuigi said:
The policies of the Democratic Party do not help poor people in the long term if that is the insinuation here.
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They certainly help poor people more than the policies of the Republican Party which don’t help poor people at all.
 
We are a Church of the poor, and thats historic, you can’t help the poor and kill the most vulnerable. Thats two strikes from the get-go. Your killing the poor AND most vulnerable in the name of rights which you don’t have to begin with to kill anyone never mind the weakest and most vulnerable. Hard to understand how democrats prefer to save the animals over their own. 🤷.
 
Sy_Noe said:
But don’t you think too his rhetoric on immigrants and Muslims and insults has played a part as well in his support? His supporters seem to love it when for instance he says Goofy Elizabeth Warren and refers to her as Pocahontas.
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That’s because he is dead right. Elizabeth Warren keeps claiming she is an Native American - How much? She looks Scandinavian to me.
 
CHRISTINE77 said:
That’s because he is dead right. Elizabeth Warren keeps claiming she is an Native American - How much? She looks Scandinavian to me.
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I am 100% Irish, but most people think I am Italian. When I was growing up in S. California, people thought my dad was Mexican because he had a dark tan and spoke Spanish (in the early 60’s).

Four of my brothers-in-law show their Native American ancestry, yet their sister has red hair. Same parents.

Sorry looks don’t necessarily tell the story.
 
sallybutler said:
I am 100% Irish, but most people think I am Italian. When I was growing up in S. California, people thought my dad was Mexican because he had a dark tan and spoke Spanish (in the early 60’s).

Four of my brothers-in-law show their Native American ancestry, yet their sister has red hair. Same parents.

Sorry looks don’t necessarily tell the story.
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Well** this **tells the story:theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/is-elizabeth-warren-native-american-or-what/257415/

EW is at most 1/32 Native American.
 
CHRISTINE77 said:
Well** this **tells the story:theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/is-elizabeth-warren-native-american-or-what/257415/

EW is at most 1/32 Native American.
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Well, I guess that’s a good excuse for the name-calling that his Republican supporters love. I especially like how he went after the federal judge in the lawsuit against Trump University.

washingtonpost.com/politics/judge-orders-release-of-internal-trump-university-documents/2016/05/28/2e960e5e-24f9-11e6-8690-f14ca9de2972_story.html

Clearly, the man is Hispanic and, I guess by Donald Trump’s logic, shouldn’t be a judge because Donald Trump is busy insulted Hispanics, so he must be biased. Which, of course, would apply to any judge in America because he insults everyone.
 
on_the_hill said:
👍

I cannot, under any circumstances, vote for Trump. He is a fear monger. I see it in family members who support him. He has ginned-up fears that they didn’t use to have. There’s a quote from George Orwell, I think it’s in “The Road to Wigan Pier,” where a coal miner says, “We didn’t know we were poor until someone told us.” Well, Americans from sea to shining sea weren’t fearful until Trump told them to be. A Trump presidency would be as bad, if not worse, than Obama’s was. There;’

Maybe I’ll write in Kasich. Or myself.

I am now announcing my candidacy for President of the United States of America. In all truthfulness, in all honesty, I believe that I would do a better job than either Clinton or Trump. And I’m not joking.
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And I would seriously consider voting for you, as you would have to be an improvement. 😉
 
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