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haljoseph
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AMEN to the “only Savior”. And He can not come soon enough!!! Let’s never forget that “the day” could be any moment, any hour, any day. PRAISE BE to our Maker and our Savior!!!
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FollowChrist34
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It is going to be quite fascinating to watch the #NeverTrumpers deal with the Brexit/Boris Johnson/Trump parallel/phenomenon. It is as much a problem for them as it is Clinton. How do they tout Brexit & Johnson and dump on Trump as well as Trump’s working class followers and his legitimate win of the nomination in their own party thereby. Their “establishment” seat is getting hotter and hotter and hotter.
Not that reason or a desire to be coherent has troubled them much for some time now.
Not that reason or a desire to be coherent has troubled them much for some time now.
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estesbob
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Five reasons Brexit could signal Trump winning the White House
The two most surprising political phenomena of this year have been the rise of Donald Trump and the success of the Leave Europe camp in Britain’s referendum on Brexit.
Few pundits saw either coming (and full disclosure, I include myself here, particularly on Trump) - but we should have and now would be a good chance to make up for past oversight by looking at how the two are linked.
bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36564808?SThisFB
The two most surprising political phenomena of this year have been the rise of Donald Trump and the success of the Leave Europe camp in Britain’s referendum on Brexit.
Few pundits saw either coming (and full disclosure, I include myself here, particularly on Trump) - but we should have and now would be a good chance to make up for past oversight by looking at how the two are linked.
bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36564808?SThisFB
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Peter_J
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You mean Hillary?It’s so reassuring to have a person that is so knowledgeable about foreign affairs, such a profound thinker, as the nominee for one of our two major parties.
Just kidding. I actually think she is very knowledgable – maybe the only knowledgable person, in terms of what went wrong in Bengazi.
Hmmm.
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Darryl1958
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You mean Hillary?
Just kidding. I actually think she is very knowledgable – maybe the only knowledgable person, in terms of what went wrong in Bengazi.
Hmmm.
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Thorolfr
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Any missteps by Clinton in the Benghazi affair are insignificant when compared with those of George W. Bush and his administration in Iraq in terms of the number of people killed and long lasting damage to the US and to its interests in the Middle East. Constantly pointing to Benghazi is like pointing at a gnat while ignoring the elephant that it is sitting on.You mean Hillary?
Just kidding. I actually think she is very knowledgable – maybe the only knowledgable person, in terms of what went wrong in Bengazi.
Hmmm.
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_Abyssinia
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Hillary Clinton, the presumed Democrat nominee, voted on a bill to go to war in Iraq. Trump has attacked the war in Iraq multiple times during the primaries and Clinton now says her vote was a “mistake”. Obviously Trump was not a politician so he didn’t vote like Clinton did… but she was an elected politician and her vote is a fact in history.Any missteps by Clinton in the Benghazi affair are insignificant when compared with those of George W. Bush and his administration in Iraq in terms of the number of people killed and long lasting damage to the US and to its interests in the Middle East. Constantly pointing to Benghazi is like pointing at a gnat while ignoring the elephant that it is sitting on.
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Mulligan2
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Very true.Any missteps by Clinton in the Benghazi affair are insignificant when compared with those of George W. Bush and his administration in Iraq in terms of the number of people killed and long lasting damage to the US and to its interests in the Middle East. Constantly pointing to Benghazi is like pointing at a gnat while ignoring the elephant that it is sitting on.
Meanwhile, support for Mr. Trump continues to plummet.
washingtonpost.com/politics/in-new-poll-support-for-trump-plunges-giving-clinton-a-double-digit-lead/2016/06/25/0565bef6-3a31-11e6-a254-2b336e293a3c_story.html
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Darryl1958
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Geroge Bush is not on the ballot.Any missteps by Clinton in the Benghazi affair are insignificant when compared with those of George W. Bush and his administration in Iraq in terms of the number of people killed and long lasting damage to the US and to its interests in the Middle East. Constantly pointing to Benghazi is like pointing at a gnat while ignoring the elephant that it is sitting on.
Trump is more anti-Bush “anti-neo” than HRC. He is even a 911 truther, every now and again.
In other words, he is more Democrat than most Democrats.
But if Democrats really, really believed what they are saying against Bush, then Trump is the answer to their dreams.
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Ridgerunner
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Trump is not the answer to Democrat dreams.
First of all, he’s not ideologically dedicated to elective abortion, as Hillary Clinton is. That’s the Dem party’s number one value. Nothing else in the Dem itinerary even comes close.
Second, he’s unlikely to sell influence. He doesn’t need to do it. The Clintons not only enrich themselves by selling influence, they have their own “Superpac” named the Clinton Foundation (as well as other sub-organizations). With that, they can reward their political supporters. If people think the Clinton Superpac is big money now, wait until Hillary Clinton has the opportunity to fully control American foreign and domestic policy.
Barack Obama (or his people at least) were very smart (though cynical) to offer the SOS job to Hillary. It won her support for Obama while putting her right in the middle of the candy jar, money wise. It’s not as if Clinton corruption wasn’t known. The minute Obama appointed her, it was plain to me he was “buying” her by letting her sell influence worldwide. Bill Clinton had already been to that well, but making Hillary SOS enhanced it greatly, and his speaking fees increased markedly once she was appointed.
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Ridgerunner
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Actually, the Iraq War had been won. Even Al Quaeda admitted that and told its fighters to stand down in Iraq. Leaving Iraq too soon was the big mistake, not getting in. Bush wasn’t all that wrong. People would put Saddam Hussein back in power if they could, but that wouldn’t have guaranteed anything other than maybe another million victims by him. Assad and Saddam were the same sort of characters, and but for Russian and Iranian help, Assad would be gone, and without the U.S. even being involved. Ultimately, Saddam Hussein would have lost power as well because, like Assad, his minority sectarian rule was only kept up by cruelty and murder.Any missteps by Clinton in the Benghazi affair are insignificant when compared with those of George W. Bush and his administration in Iraq in terms of the number of people killed and long lasting damage to the US and to its interests in the Middle East. Constantly pointing to Benghazi is like pointing at a gnat while ignoring the elephant that it is sitting on.
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Crossbones
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A lot of liberals do like what he has to say about Bush. Of course, apparently so do a lot of Republicans, since they just nominated him to be their Presidential candidate.
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GaryTaylor
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hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CLINTON_EMAIL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-06-23-17-19-35
You couldn’t be any deeper in lies than Hillary and theres no end with her. Its one thing to paint someone as with Trump as dangerous, but this lying corruption is beyond acceptable
insider.foxnews.com/2016/06/25/judge-jeanine-pirro-blasts-hillary-clinton-over-emails-lies-hannity
The truth is Hillary imho is crooked as all heck and its just clearer weekly and beyond acceptable. But I agree we won’t see a Grand Jury but she is incredibly wrapped in lies and corruption.
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_Abyssinia
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Per The Hill, Clinton is 39%, Trump 38%, when the other two candidates running are included… all four of those candidates should be included in all national polls if they are not already.
Regarding the Washington Post/ABC poll also released, something to question and consider:
thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/284929-support-for-clinton-ticks-up-in-nbc-news-wsj-poll
Regarding the Washington Post/ABC poll also released, something to question and consider:
twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/747084772984381440
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Crossbones
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I’m taking a flyer here that Stein does not get 6%. She got 0.3% in the last election. No way she’s over 1%.
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Darryl1958
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And he is not on the ballot either way.
Trump is, and he echoes your sentiments about Bush, even more than Clinton does.
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Darryl1958
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This is very true. Democratic values are indeed focused on women’s rights, which are abortion rights. Catholic leftist at least pretend that this is not so, but this is a weak case they make at best, and disingenuous at worst.
Trump is at least nominally beholden to the GOP, which means that he is beholden to the culture of life that is central to the GOP platform on account of the powerful evangelical lobby.
Corruption does define the Clintons.
I will give Democrat voters the benefit of the doubt on this though, and believe that most people would vote for HRC in spite of the corruption, rather than for the corruption.
A lot of people have paid off the Clinton’s including foreign governments, and they will expect to be rewarded.
Both HRC and Clinton were quite happy to snuggle up with the MB.
This is who they are ideologically as well.
This may well be who most Democrats are, so in that case, Trump would not be the answer to Democrats dreams.
He is not Clintonian in that way at least.
The jury is out on whether or not the left in general are at least sympathetic to Islamists, for a variety of reasons.
But, in terms of being anti-Bush, Trump echoes “Bush lied and people died” louder and prouder than Clinton.
And he is beholden to no foreign government, so that he can actually be in a position not to carry on the “Bush neo-con doctrine” of regime change.
Libya is proof enough that Democrats for reasons of corruption, or for whatever reasons, were still very interested in regime change.
Ergo, Clinton went on to cackle,:I came, I way, he died".
What could be more ‘neo-con’ than that?
Trump is the anti-Bush like HRC never could be.
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Crossbones
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Right, and he is right to attack President Bush. He won the Republican nomination by tapping into the economic frustration of those who have done things right and have fallen behind their parents and those in previous generations. They are sick of the promises of the elites and President Bush did nothing for them and started the unjust Iraq War.
Obama won two Presidential elections by running against Bush (in essence). Trump has now won a Republican nomination by running against Bush (W, not Jeb). I don’t think whoever wins the Presidential election will do so by running against Bush though.
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_Abyssinia
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I don’t know but I don’t think Romney and Obama had as high unfavourable numbers as Trump and Clinton though. Given those high unfavourable numbers, Johnson and Stein could do well.
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Crossbones
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I think Johnson will do ok because of general unhappiness with Trump, but even then, I would think it’ll be only about 3%. He only got 1% in the last election. I always find these polls tend to overestimate the support of the third party candidates significantly. In the last election, third party candidates got less than 2% of the vote. Even if this election, I don’t see it topping 5% despite the unfavourables of the Clinton and Trump.
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