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Why do you think that? Because somebody like Ted Cruz is not going to be the Republican nominee? Trump may not have been the first choice for some social conservatives out of the seventeen Republican candidates, but social conservatives clearly have influence at the state level and in Congress, don’t you agree? If you think social conservative have little influence, wait till the new Republican platform come out. I suspect you will see the influence that social conservatives have in that.
I think it is clear by the nomination of Trump that the influence of social conservatives is waning in the Republican Party. After all, Trump has thought so little about abortion that he changed his position three times in one day. And, honestly, I couldn’t care less about the platforms. They mean nothing.
 
I think it is clear by the nomination of Trump that the influence of social conservatives is waning in the Republican Party. After all, Trump has thought so little about abortion that he changed his position three times in one day. And, honestly, I couldn’t care less about the platforms. They mean nothing.
You’re right, of course. There’s no way someone like Trump could win the Republican Party nomination if the Republican Party gave two hoots about issues important to social conservatives.
 
They’ll probably be moving the Republican National Committee to Trump Tower. 😉
I’m beyond embarrassed for the Republicans lining up behind this charlatan. Truly, it leaves me speechless (and that’s saying something)!
 
This is the problem I have with projections about where Trump can not win etc. - who would of predicted he would have been the presumptive Republican nominee last year? His fans might have, but you can probably find article after article of pundits saying he was very unlikely to have a shot. Given that he beat those expectations, I think it’s up in the air as to these states.
Winning the GOP nomination and winning a general election are two entirely different things. And I’ve seen nothing to indicate that he has a chance in the handful of swing states that would matter.
 
I’m beyond embarrassed for the Republicans lining up behind this charlatan. Truly, it leaves me speechless (and that’s saying something)!
Well, they had the guy in Ted Cruz they claimed they want all this time and wouldn’t listen to me and vote for him. For reference, it seems like a lot of the same people who said they wanted someone like Palin instead stood by the left and the establishment to ridicule her.

And the Democrats have done orthodox Catholics no favors by once again nominating someone who will at least drag along the culture of death.

No third party candidate running has any real chance.

So, there’s not much choice.

But one could also argue that both Bernie and Hillary act “charlatan” as well. Clinton has been criticized for tolerating her husband’s inappropriate behavior just to help her career going and the Clinton’s have real estate ownership that is of 8-figure value. Then there’s the whole Clinton Foundation debacle, which I should say I am amazed that liberals are downplaying which may have taken up to 90% of donated money for purposes other than charity.

Sanders has been in government pretty much his whole life, he is by no means an outsider (and only got that label because the progressive base couldn’t stand to have the GOP have a :cool: candidate while they didn’t) and is a rich, old, straight, white, able-bodied idealist male from the egalitarian circles of the northeast.
 
Winning the GOP nomination and winning a general election are two entirely different things. And I’ve seen nothing to indicate that he has a chance in the handful of swing states that would matter.
Winning the nomination is always different.

But he’s in striking range in PA, IA MN and MI. Those are essentially must wins for the Democrats. They lose any of those states and for all practical purposes, it’s over.
 
You’re right, of course. There’s no way someone like Trump could win the Republican Party nomination if the Republican Party gave two hoots about issues important to social conservatives.
Well, the problem is that once again many those principled social conservatives were the ones who left their principles behind to some extent to save the country as it were.

Really, I don’t see how one saves a country by preserving cultural rot while balancing a budget. As Jason Lewis notes “social liberalism begets fiscal liberalism”.

I think there’s just too many people out there on both sides of the aisle who don’t vote their values. And for all the flack that Rove and some of the other pollsters got in 2012 and 2014, fundamentally, they know whats going on.

For instance, a blue collar white union worker in Carbondale or an African-American Muslim in Chicago may call up Senator A and tell him not to vote for so-called gay “marriage”. Senator A will then sweat, call his pollster and say “man, I’ve got all these calls, I better figure this out”. So they run a poll and find out that at end of all things, when the word “republican” shows up on the ballot, a 10-second emotional response is elicited in the voter and they vote Democrat. So basically, the message is “do whatever you want, because they’ll vote you in anyways.”

And then people sit around for the next three years of their life writing me messages saying “why, I can’t believe that a politician I voted for whose party platform said they support this actually passed legislation supporting it” or “I can’t believe that by supporting big government that the government is now turning on my Church and telling it what to do. It wasn’t like this in 1928 when my great-grandfather voted”.

These are the voters who are sinking America.
 
I was just listening to a podcast with Mona Charen and Jay Nordlinger, two former Republicans who will have nothing to do with Trump, who they consider a fascist.

The more that you listened to them, the more they ey left the impression that they were treading water in the middle of the ocean,
They are going down with their values, but without access to any sort of political lifeboat, they have no place to go from here on out. There is no goal, no purpose to their words, no enthusiasm, no hope, no point really.
There was even some talk about lighting up and dancing in g-strings with the libertarians, but that was a passing mirage for poor Mona.

The people have spoken. Republicans that fully understand how pathetic a man Trump really is can either tread water in the middle of the ocean, or recognize the sovereignty of we, the people. and step in line.
 
From today’s Guardian:
What on earth could be driving away women voters from Donald Trump?
It might be his opinion of a lawyer who wanted to pump breastmilk for her newborn daughter (“you’re disgusting”). It might even be his bizarre attraction to his own daughter (“If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her”).
Or it might just be his personal attacks on Rosie O’Donnell (“that fat, ugly face of hers”), Arianna Huffington (“unattractive, both inside and out”) and Megyn Kelly (“blood coming out of her wherever”).
theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/03/donald-trump-woman-problem-female-voter-support-poll-numbers
 
I think it is clear by the nomination of Trump that the influence of social conservatives is waning in the Republican Party. After all, Trump has thought so little about abortion that he changed his position three times in one day. And, honestly, I couldn’t care less about the platforms. They mean nothing.
There were different things that came out among a number of days on the issue of punishing women in regards to abortion: abcnews.go.com/Politics/times-donald-trump-backtracked-position-24-hours/story?id=38062831

As far back as 2011, Donald Trump said he was pro-life: lifenews.com/2011/04/08/donald-trump-explains-conversion-to-pro-life-side-on-abortion/
 
Winning the GOP nomination and winning a general election are two entirely different things. And I’ve seen nothing to indicate that he has a chance in the handful of swing states that would matter.
These polls show either them either tied or either slightly ahead but within the margin of error:

politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-clinton-tied-in-new-hampshire-poll-223289

politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-clinton-florida-ohio-pennsylvania-222994

politico.com/states/florida/story/2016/06/clinton-leads-trump-by-3-in-new-florida-poll-102462

New Jersey may be in play:

mobile.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/us/politics/trump-clinton-new-jersey-poll.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.co.uk/

This seems like a small poll but perhaps even Oregon, usually a safe Democratic state, may be in play, although not sure what the margin of error is:

cloutpolitical.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/31/2016/05/OR-Statewide-Poll-Memorandum-5-18-2016.pdf
 
Winning the nomination is always different.

But he’s in striking range in PA, IA MN and MI. Those are essentially must wins for the Democrats. They lose any of those states and for all practical purposes, it’s over.
Of the states you mentioned, IA is the only one that is remotely in play. No way Trump wins PA, MN, or MI. That’s pure fantasy. And with OH, FL, VA, and NC leaning Democratic at this time, Mr. Trump does not have path to victory.
 
Winning the nomination is always different.

But he’s in striking range in PA, IA MN and MI. Those are essentially must wins for the Democrats. They lose any of those states and for all practical purposes, it’s over.
MN?? It’s been about 45 years since they’ve voted Republican. And the results from the primaries indicate Trump was anything but popular there.

Trump did fairly well in MI and PA, but will he have enough support come November to outdo Clinton in those states? I won’t put it past him–or put it past Clinton to self-implode–but it would still be a little unexpected.
 
Of the states you mentioned, IA is the only one that is remotely in play. No way Trump wins PA, MN, or MI. That’s pure fantasy. And with OH, FL, VA, and NC leaning Democratic at this time, Mr. Trump does not have path to victory.
I see a path but it is a very narrow path where the road must be paved nearly perfectly for him with little room to maneuver around any potholes he creates with his mouth along the way. If he were to flip lets say, OH, PA, VA, CO, IA for instance. Don’t laugh. I’m only giving a scenario. Not that I necessarily think all the "if"s he needs will transpire.
 
Winning the nomination is always different.

But he’s in striking range in PA, IA MN and MI. Those are essentially must wins for the Democrats. They lose any of those states and for all practical purposes, it’s over.
Any of those states?

Not that I think it will necessarily happen. But here just for the sake of argument, I gave him 2 of those. IA and PA. Threw in OH, NH, and even CO for him. And the Democrats would still win. 🤷

270towin.com/maps/qEJ18
 
Winning the GOP nomination and winning a general election are two entirely different things. And I’ve seen nothing to indicate that he has a chance in the handful of swing states that would matter.
I am often surprised about how some of his supporters seem to think the GOP primary and a Presidential yr general election are one in the same.
 
I am often surprised about how some of his supporters seem to think the GOP primary and a Presidential yr general election are one in the same.
I’m surprised how many Hillary supports consider her entitled and already the next POTUS, she hasn’t even beat Bernie.
 
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