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Interesting that one who thinks the big issue is MMGW would think to add the man’s sexual history into the polemic.

Usual Hillary Clinton stuff. But I guess it makes a certain degree of sense. The more children Clinton and her party aid in killing, the fewer people there will be to drive cars, heat their houses, eat food, etc.

As to the economic thing, remember that Hillary Clinton was on the board of directors of Walmart, the biggest buyer of goods produced by China which relentlessly pollutes the environment, uses slave labor, creates deserts, etc.

And, of course, China was a big contributor to Bill Clinton’s campaigns, whereupon he gave China “most favored nation” trading status.

The question environmentalists have to ask themselves is whether they can outbid the oil kingdoms and China for Hillary Clinton’s allegiance. My guess is that they can’t even come close.
Never said Hillary is great, only that Trump is extremely worse and more dangerous. I’m sort of hoping she will have Elizabeth Warren as her running mate, but that would probably do as much good as Bill having Al Gore as his VP…which helped but not a whole lot.
 
Al Gore or Elizabeth Warren are proportionate responses to supporting the gutting of America by abortion.

There is no danger in supporting that, I guess.

Win win for environmentalist actually, the best way of reducing the environmental footprint is to curtail the pitter-patter of little feet in the first place.
 
Donald Trump has done more for America by running for the office of President than the current resident of the WH.
 
From what I understand by recent exposés is that at least some of that Trump money is ill-begotten – cheating on taxes and not paying bills. Apparently some of those 35,000 lawsuits against him are about him underpaying or not paying for work and supplies. One small contracting business with 20 employees ended up going out of business because Trump only paid about 30% of the bill, even though Trump admitted he had not paid the full amount and offered to hire the company to do more work (indicating that it was NOT because the work was shoddy or any other reason for non-payment). Other lawsuits are from various workers he did not pay…low wage-earners who really have a hard time hiring lawyers and filing lawsuits (and good luck winning against the rich and powerful).

Then there is the issue of Trump’s ruthless philandering and marital infidelities. If one voted against Bill Clinton for it, then one really should vote against Trump for it.

Lump on his racism and lack of experience in governing, then it’s truly amazing that anyone could vote for the man, unless, of course, they share his views and are fine with his immoralities, including stiffing the poor.

But my main issue always will be life and his huge threat to life on planet earth by his anti-environmentalism and complete willingness to pollute, poison, and let climate change spiral out of control…whether or not he actually understands environmental issues. His lack of environmental understanding being all the more reason definitely NOT to vote for such a unwitting, clueless would-be mass killer.

If one thought he’d be changing his tune to a pro-life, pro-environment (pro-God’s creation that sustains us) stance after he became the presumptive nominee, that has not panned out at all. He is Mr. Pro-Death! And I had thought no one could be more pro-death and anti-environmental than Ted Cruz (totally in the pockets of the oil industry).
I don’t think we need to dig up dirt on Trump to see that he is unfit for any kind of serious political office. He’s not a man but a man-child, with the emotional maturity of a toddler who hasn’t had breakfast.
 
Donald Trump has done more for America by running for the office of President than the current resident of the WH.
Yes, demonstrating clearly that Fox News were nothing but shills for the RNC and showing that perhaps a majority of Republicans don’t care about social issues was definitely important.
 
I don’t think so based on what the following article shows. It says also, “Clinton and Trump are both more strongly disliked than any nominee at this point in the past 10 presidential cycles.”
I think that’s the difference between this and the 1992 election. Bush was losing, perhaps badly, but he wasn’t personally disliked. Trump is personally disliked.
 
I think that’s the difference between this and the 1992 election. Bush was losing, perhaps badly, but he wasn’t personally disliked. Trump is personally disliked.
He is the presumptive nominee and he has high unfavourables, but he is running against a presumptive nominee on the Democratic side who doesn’t have high favourables… so, there may be room for change perhaps for both in regards to unfavourables and favourables. If Trump chooses a really good VP choice, it may have an effect of moderating his image (probably not his policy positions), and increasing his favourables.
 
He is the presumptive nominee and he has high unfavourables, but he is running against a presumptive nominee on the Democratic side who doesn’t have high favourables… so, there may be room for change perhaps for both in regards to unfavourables and favourables. If Trump chooses a really good VP choice, it may have an effect of moderating his image and increasing his favourables.
Clinton’s unfavorables aren’t nearly as high, but it does underscore what a missed opportunity it may be for the Republicans as it was clear three years ago that the Democrats were going to nominate a flawed candidate.

I don’t think a VP choice can move the needle that much.

What with the ‘u’ in ‘favour’?
 
Never said Hillary is great, only that Trump is extremely worse and more dangerous. I’m sort of hoping she will have Elizabeth Warren as her running mate, but that would probably do as much good as Bill having Al Gore as his VP…which helped but not a whole lot.
Again, what makes anybody think the “highest bidder” for Hillary Clinton’s actions won’t be the biggest polluter? Remember, she has already received something like $40 million from the oil states in the Middle East. What compelling reason is there to imagine that she’ll do anything to curtail their sales of oil to the U.S. and the rest of the world?

She’ll be bought. The question is, by whom.
 
Good to know. It is still early days. I think there will be a lot of soul searching before this is over on both sides. A lot of people will really think about this decision. I don’t know how many people just vote the party line anymore.

I do feel when I look at the Republicans like they are just committing suicide. Not unlike the way Obama has probably felt watching them for 8 years. What dingbats. I mean we are basically stuck with Trump at this late stage in the game. Get in there and help him, don’t help the Democrats dig his grave.

Again, we are still so early on - time here is a real gift. Because of that, I would be afraid to call it given that anything can happen between now and November. But it has been a few grim weeks for Trump, no doubt. I can’t figure out how I can see how dire this all is and Paul Ryan can’t. Neither of us like Trump, so it’s not that.
My thinking also, disappointment is what it is. In my opinion conservation democratic Catholics and Hispanics and many others were willing to avoid the Hillary situation but are finding Donald more and more difficult to accept. This is going to be a tight race as a result but it could have been a landslide. Plays that usually run Blue could have ran Red. Trump is his own worst enemy. Paul and many Rep are simply red-line honest and really expect Trump to listen, not play rogue when we are playing for all the marbles. I think Trump is now overestimating his position.

The post from Ab about the Christian evangelical meeting is very important as by large they all think the Democrat party is Christian heresy just as I do. In fact I think its time to address Democrat Catholics as a unified voice within the Catholic Church as do many many others who have been speaking out as individuals and here also, its time to quit pussyfooting around with this.

catholics4truth.com/2016/01/07/the-new-catholic-heretic-the-democrat/comment-page-1/
Democrats, first and foremost, defy Jesus Christ in that they are the champions of the ‘culture of death.’ Democrats federally fund Planned Parenthood, performing thousands of abortions daily all across our nation. Democrats are the party of the HHS mandate, which forces Christian businesses to coerce employees into paying for contraceptives and abortifacients. Democrats are also the party of the coming storm: increased legality concerning euthanasia, and the growth of the cloning business.
Democrats are also iconoclasts. Democrats are the party of gay ‘marriage,’ holding the key to Pandora’s box, which might broaden marriage in strange and scary ways such as polygamy and pedophilia. Democrats, moreover, against the sacred words of Scripture, and the perennial teaching of the Apostles, ‘normalize’ homosexuality, making it acceptable through propaganda, and the enormous pressure of political correctness.
Democrats are the direct enemy of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Democrats are a major influence behind the proliferation of pornography, and the smut of the popular culture. The Democratic party also enlists some of the most radical bishops, priests, and religious in America. And Democratic thinking Catholics have done more to destroy good, holy catechesis in the last 40 years through shoddy biblical exegesis, questionable historical research, and liberally perverted catechesis, homilies, and public discourse. And let’s not forget the damage they’ve done in Catholic Schools and in the Liturgy.
Democrats are pimps. They are the party which uses race, gender, ethnicity, and poverty to their advantage, leaving those prostituted in the wake of their whoring, enslaved on government entitlements, living in inner city poverty, dependent on the big pimp Democrat in charge. Supporting ‘women’s reproductive rights,’ Democrats free the way for women to abort babies in record numbers. Supporting ‘Black Lives Matter,’ Democrats keep black men in the anger circle of gang violence and illegal gun related death. Supporting ‘amnesty,’ Democrats welcome South Americans, to include criminals hid in Sanctuary Cities, with open arms, hoping to give them government entitlements, and enroll them in the Democratic party. Democrats, supposed champs of women’s and homosexual rights, protect Radical Islam from criticism through the cattle call of ‘Islamophobia,’ ironically protecting the greatest perpetrators of the mistreatment of women and gays in the world.
Democrats are all about the heresy of a one world religion.
So in a word, yes, Trumps conversation with the evangelicals is important for him to get right. But it was important as Christians he got his message right with the hispanics and he didn’t. So we will see. People are concerned, they are in it for the fight but feel as I said we are fighting unneeded fights.

And aside all that Bernie still isn’t going anywhere and to him Trump is “secondary” and Hillary and the DNC and corruption of both is primary.

I think a Luther 95 thesis is in order for the Democratic party. I can be progressive also. 😉
 

That is possible, we must try to do better. We have enough to want to protect and keep.
We do have to “want” enough to make it happen. The sure way to do this is pray we are serving Jesus by the choices we make. Right?
 
Again, what makes anybody think the “highest bidder” for Hillary Clinton’s actions won’t be the biggest polluter? Remember, she has already received something like $40 million from the oil states in the Middle East. What compelling reason is there to imagine that she’ll do anything to curtail their sales of oil to the U.S. and the rest of the world?

She’ll be bought. The question is, by whom.
And you think that Trump can’t be bought? One has to wonder why he, a reputed billionaire, was involved in a business venture like Trump University which didn’t make him that much money but used unsavory practices. I think Trump will try to make money any way he can.
 
theamericanmirror.com/mexican-flags-fly-trump-protest-dallas/

Trump stated AFL-CIO no longer represent American workers as they endorse Clinton. Ongoing issue for the democrats also imho.

The Mexican flag nationalistic aspect above is “also” indicative of the percentage of Hispanic disapproval. Its really unacceptable as Catholics.

You know same old story you hurt peoples feeling and expect what, and especially with the ignorant? Anger and hurt and acting out are all interactive-mutually exclusive. 🙂
 

Not voting is doing nothing to help make things better. Its abandoning responsibility to help and defend ourselves and others.
 
In regards to:
What does the CCC have to say about these?

Yes Catholic answer might have come up with those five non-negotiables but they come straight from Catholic teaching.
**Abortion: **CCC 2270-2273
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Ask yourself, how can you negotiate an abortion? Partial birth? Hah, that results in complete death.
So called Safe abortion results in death of the child.
Abortion is an intrinsic evil that cannot be negotiated

How can you negotiate a pregnancy? Can a woman be only slightly pregnant?

Homosexual marriages – CCC 2357-2359 Homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered. Thus, how an they be negotiated? Marriage is between a man and a woman CCC 2331-2336 and CCC 2360-2369

**Euthanasia **CCC 2276-2279 – Morally unacceptable
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Human Cloning – See PONTIFICIA ACADEMIA PRO VITA – Reflections on cloning

Embryonic stem cell research – see PONTIFICAL ACADEMY FOR LIFE
DECLARATION ON THE PRODUCTION AND THE SCIENTIFIC AND THERAPEUTIC USE OF HUMAN EMBRYONIC STEM CELLS
In part it states: Is it morally licit to produce and/or use living human embryos for the preparation of ES cells? The answer is negative,

And these are just quick searches. Whether or not they are from Catholic Answers these should answer the question on whether these five non-negotiables are taught by the Church or not.
The Catholic Church believes in many more intrinsic evils. It’s bishops have addressed voting guides. And the Pope you profess loyalty to has addressed the issue with counting to 5 values. Peace.
 

Not voting is doing nothing to help make things better. Its abandoning responsibility to help and defend ourselves and others.
I think the argument is by conscience you can’t force them as disciples of Christ to act against their firm held belief. I never really thought it through but by the same token I don’t think in terms of, is the rep party christian compatible, but realized only the Democratic party isn’t for sure. Thats where I’m at.
 
So, I don’t know what it means to think it through as “Catholic-Democrat” nor a Rep. So is the Catholic-Democrat or Rep conscience right of wrong in Catholic teaching and understanding. My opinion as a formed conscience objectively speaking the Democrat party is “unacceptable”. The Rep party as a whole by core principle I don’t think that case can even be made today in view of these parties platforms while I concede they have indeed though war and so forth have been controversial.

I do know whats become blatant and clear is the democratic party has become at minimal a concern and at max a evil infested reality that needs to be clearly discussed and as umpires and refs the Church needs to guide slightly more vocally and clearly. And at the same time if we are to take what we hear by various Bishops as the umpires speaking but not as the Mag. Then they need to clarify statements and we need to ask charitably for them to do so. Just like Catholic Vote suggested with Bishop Lynch in Fla.
 
And you think that Trump can’t be bought? One has to wonder why he, a reputed billionaire, was involved in a business venture like Trump University which didn’t make him that much money but used unsavory practices. I think Trump will try to make money any way he can.
You may “think” Trump can be bought but we “know” the Clinton can
 
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