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And hearing about her Howard Stern interview, I will never be watching her again.
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Very few people would be livid at Megyn had she asked this same question in a personal interview, which Trump no doubt would have given her. The question did not belong in a debate in which a candidate only has a minute to respond.
Megyn seemed pointlessly hostile in the tone of her questions, seeming to play to the leftist Beltway cocktail crowd instead of her TV audience, most of whom wanted to learn where the candidates stood on issues.
Megyn is just one more angry pro-abortion establishment hack. She was smart enough to deceive people in the past, but she just displayed her true identity for all to see. Baier is the guy about whom I was slightly disappointed. I could have gotten together with two people on the street and we’d have been able to deliver more incisive questions with a half hour of preparation time.
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:yawn:
The kind of people who build a Mao-esque personality cult around a football coach: erecting statues and billboards, rioting when he’s deposed, etc. etc. This is not unique to Pennsylvania, of course–see Alabama, for instance–but the original statement was in re: PA.
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You know that Trump is a frequent Howard Stern guest?
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I know this is off topic but Donald Trump in an interview regarding Planned Parenthood said he would ‘look at the good aspects of it’ in relation to Planned Parenthoid and funding:
twitter.com/cnnpolitics/status/631068480608051200
Whatever you think about his comments about Megyn Kelly, and that can be discussed, there need to be more broadly, attention focused on Donald Trump’s views on specific policy related issues. Pro lifers - is this somebody who you want nominating Judges, including maybe on the Supreme Court? Is this somebody who can be totally trusted to be commited to furthering the pro-life cause, let alone other issues of concern?
TRUMP OPEN TO IDEA OF CONTINUING TAXPAYER FUNDING OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD
breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/11/trump-open-to-idea-of-continuing-taxpayer-funding-of-planned-parenthood/
twitter.com/cnnpolitics/status/631068480608051200
Whatever you think about his comments about Megyn Kelly, and that can be discussed, there need to be more broadly, attention focused on Donald Trump’s views on specific policy related issues. Pro lifers - is this somebody who you want nominating Judges, including maybe on the Supreme Court? Is this somebody who can be totally trusted to be commited to furthering the pro-life cause, let alone other issues of concern?
TRUMP OPEN TO IDEA OF CONTINUING TAXPAYER FUNDING OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD
breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/11/trump-open-to-idea-of-continuing-taxpayer-funding-of-planned-parenthood/
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Talk about a childish, arrogant response to Denise. You sound like a snot. I hope you are still a teenager, b/c that fact would somewhat excuse you. Rob :nope:
Personally, I wish that people would stop attacking Trump, b/c I thought that his answers to serious questions were not particularly thoughtful or impressive. But if opponents keep his supporters in defensive mode, they will never let their guard down and see this for themselves.
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Great point, Abyssinia. I fully agree with you!
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That Planned Parenthood stance of Trump certainly sounds like a Democrats view; that could hurt him. Indefensible. That as the article says upholds the status quo.
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Darryl_Revok
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I thought it a well-reasoned response, and the facts in re: Paterno and his supporters speak for themselves. A man who, though a string of football victories, created a veneer of accomplishment, and whose power, gained as a result of these football victories, was sufficient to shake the foundations of the state of Pennsylvania. The same people who gave Paterno such power seem to be the kind of people who would vote Trump into the presidency based on his financial accomplishments.
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The Democratic Party are the ones with a connection to Unions who are often accused of corruption. Corruption of course, affects both parties.
Christie just jokes about Bridgegate.
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I don’t see what this has to do with my statement about the credulity of PA voters, but to each his own, I guess.
Once he’s bounced out of the primary, he’ll have plenty of time to hone and perfect his comedy routine in time for 2020.
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As much as I want PP out of business and closed completely and as much as I believe that they provide nothing to women’s health that can’t be had elsewhere I don’t really have a problem with someone saying in essence that “I’ll see if they do anything good and if they do
they can keep doing that”. But it does imply that he really hasn’t looked fully into PP in the first place. Otherwise he wouldn’t have made the statement.
I’m more concerned with his other plans. Like he wants to build a wall ( which I do support) but he’s going to make Mexico pay for it? How is he going to make Mexico pay for it? I just don’t see that being viable, especially at the same time that he says the Mexican government dumps criminals on our border on purpose. Yes, I’m sure after that statement that Mexico will just write a check or help build the wall, Sure they will.
Then his Isis statements.
“I would knock out the source of their wealth, the primary source of their wealth, which is oil,” he told MSNBC. “I would knock the hell out of them, but I’d put a ring around it and I’d take the oil for our country.”
Well that’s a nice sound bite for the Democrats to latch onto. I can see it now playing in a loop on political ads. Hilary will say, Just like Bush ( 43) Trump wants to invade the middle east and steal their oil. That was the meme they repeated ad nauseam during the Bush years. And Trump just handed it to them again.
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I’m talking about the yawn and the reference to Alabama in particular. EVERY state’s football fans idolize their own successful coach. As for Paterno, the eulogies at his funeral talked about the thousands of people that he HELPED in myriad ways throughout the decades. Sandusky’s sick exploits were not witnessed by Paterno. All he knew was hearsay. The people above him in authority dropped the ball, and I suspect the reason was blackmail of some of the administration officials.
Most of Trump’s supporters are not so much sycophants of HIS, but they are grateful that he had the courage to explore a devastating issue (illegal immigration) which most politicians and journalists pretend doesn’t exist.
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“Well that’s a nice sound bite for the Democrats to latch onto. I can see it now playing in a loop on political ads. Hilary will say, Just like Bush ( 43) Trump wants to invade the middle east and steal their oil. That was the meme they repeated ad nauseam during the Bush years. And Trump just handed it to them again.”
They won’t get to say it, b/c Trump will not be the nominee. His recklessness will ultimately do him in, IMO. Trump opponents, relax!
They won’t get to say it, b/c Trump will not be the nominee. His recklessness will ultimately do him in, IMO. Trump opponents, relax!
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Trump’s idea sounds like as the articles says, it would keep up the status quo that is at Planned Parenthood which is according to the law, is that tax payer monies do not go to performing abortions.
Indeed, it doesn’t sound like he thought this out or is familiar with how Pro-Lifers despise the organization.
Indeed, it doesn’t sound like he thought this out or is familiar with how Pro-Lifers despise the organization.
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linkI’m talking about the yawn and the reference to Alabama in particular. EVERY state’s football fans idolize their own successful coach. As for Paterno, the eulogies at his funeral talked about the thousands of people that he HELPED in myriad ways throughout the decades. **Sandusky’s sick exploits were not witnessed by Paterno. All he knew was hearsay. **The people above him in authority dropped the ball, and I suspect the reason was blackmail of some of the administration officials.
Most of Trump’s supporters are not so much sycophants of HIS so much, but they are grateful that he had the courage to explore a devastating issue (illegal immigration) which most politicians and journalists pretend doesn’t exist.
**here’s what Paterno, who died in January, told the grand jury **former Penn State quarterback Mike McQueary had told him, after driving to his home in a swivet one Saturday morning in February of 2001: “Well, he had seen a person, an older — not an older, but a mature person who was fondling, whatever you might call it — I’m not sure what the term would be — a young boy.’’
Asked if he’d ever had a man named Jerry Sandusky in his employ, Paterno responded, “I did for a while, yes.’’ Which is true; Sandusky only worked for him for 30 years. So who was this ‘mature person’ fondling somone in the showers?
“Jerry Sandusky, who had been one of our coaches,” but had retired in 1999. That is, a year after an investigation of another report about Sandusky molesting two boys in the team shower went nowhere.
Of the ‘fondling’ incident in 2001, Paterno didn’t seem to think there was much doubt about Sandusky’s actions: “Obviously, he was doing something of a sexual nature. I’m not sure exactly what it was. I didn’t push Mike to describe exactly what it was because he was very upset. Obviously, I was in a little bit of a dilemma since Mr. Sandusky was not working for me anymore. So I told — I didn’t go any further than that except I knew Mike was upset and I knew some kind of inappropriate action was being taken by Jerry Sandusky with a youngster.”
It doesn’t sound to me like he doubted the validity of his quarterbacks statement, according to his grand jury testimony. Surely if it was you in that place you would have contacted the police and urged your quarterback to also do so?
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We will have to see how the Breitbart article shakes out, interestingly, today, the Pro-Life LifeNews reports per the same CNN interview:
I have already heard people say Breitbart zinged him.
As said already, it appears he may not be familiar with some of the details.
I have already heard people say Breitbart zinged him.As said already, it appears he may not be familiar with some of the details.
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My post wasn’t in response to yours, nor did I quote you. I didn’t even see your post, as I was busy crafting mine. Regardless, even if you already said what does that have to do with me posting my own opinion on it?We will have to see how the Breitbart article shakes out, interestingly, today, the Pro-Life LifeNews reports per the same CNN interview:
As said already, it appears he may not be familiar with some of the details.
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No worries. He’s shown who he is.
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I have to agree on both points. Possibly some people revered Paterno for just winning football games, but a lot of his support came from years of his behavior as a good man. He screwed up once, by only doing what his job required instead of doing more. It was bad, but he didn’t deserve what was done to him. However, since this off-topic, and I don’t have anything more to say about it, I won’t be debating that point. Just for the record, I am not from PA nor am I from a rural area. (Not that there’s anything wrong with either or both, but just to injure the stereotype.)
The second point, well, I watched the debates. As a conservative, I am extremely glad that the hand-raising question was asked, because frankly, anyone who would consider running third-party either isn’t really a conservative, doesn’t care about the country, or is such an egomaniac that he thinks it is possible he would win. I don’t know which categories he may be in.
But my biggest impression of Trump from the debate was that he wasn’t really always responsive in his answers. I felt that when he was asked questions, he said what he wanted to say rather than actually answering the questions. I can’t prove it without spending hours looking at replays, but it was my impression at the time.
And a good example (which I have looked at again to verify my impression) is his answer to Kelly’s question about women, even if it shouldn’t have been asked. In his answer, he never said anything about his opinion of women, he didn’t say anything about the question about how would he deal with Hilary Clinton on that issue, he didn’t make the rather obvious point that his dislike and disparagement of individual women does not indicate a dislike or disparagement of women as a whole, because he also dislikes and disparages individual men. His comment to Kelly about maybe he shouldn’t be nice felt like a threat to me at the time (I made some sort of intelligent comment like “ooooooooo”), and watching the replay it seems a little less like a threat but still threatening. He doesn’t understand that there is a difference between being PC and being marginally nice. And if his closing remarks to that question, about needing strength, energy, quickness, and brain [sic] to fix the country, are in any way responsive to a question about his comments about women, I really don’t want to think how. No, he just wanted to say what he wanted to say.
As a voter, I want to hear what the candidates say even when they’re talking about controversial issues where their positions might not be 100% mainstream. I don’t care about the presidential debates (I mean the ones with both parties), because I already know that the moderation will be unfair and also that I can’t imagine any situation in which I would vote for Clinton. But here in the primary stages, there really are choices still to be made, and I want to know where the bad spots for the candidates are now. For example, Kelly’s “targeting” of Walker about abortion provided him with the opportunity to state reasonably and cogently what his position was and why he didn’t think it would prevent him from being electable. If Trump had looked on hard questions as opportunities rather than attacks, I would have thought much better of him.
–Jen
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